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| Quote ="Disco":3c33c4eqThat's rather increasing in popularity for you isn't it... "Find where I said that" - "Show me where I wrote that". Certainly a welcome new addition to your intellectual nal.
Sadly though, I used the word 'intimated' as opposed to 'said' or 'stated', which rather negates any need to find anything concrete. A cunningly subjective stretch I know, but hey... I learned from the best.
:3c33c4eqAs I've noted on the 'other' thread, IF:3c33c4eq Cas are smokescreening they won't be the first WMDC Super League club to have done so, will they?
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Do you seriously believe that?? You really don't think on that occasion it was the total fault of the council?........l mean do you think the council would have spent £20,000 on a study, just to help Wakefield Trinity Wildcats 'smokescreen' the process of selection???
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| Quote ="Le Tigres"It's great news that Wakefield are back on track - but I don't see why some people are getting over-excited. Wakey's plans are no further along than ours. Infact, they're behind.
'" Well said wtf is everyone getting out the pram for!! they still need
Outline planning (which we hav) takes about 2-5 years
Funding (which were told is issue for both clubs!!)
Then more planning
Last of all building
As we all know getting over the first bit is the worst, time wise and there is a lot of greenbelt land round that area
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| Quote ="SimonBarrett"Do you seriously believe that?? You really don't think on that occasion it was the total fault of the council?........l mean do you think the council would have spent £20,000 on a study, just to help Wakefield Trinity Wildcats 'smokescreen' the process of selection???'"
What I believe is that the announcement regarding Thornes Park's demise was not officially made until [iafter[/i the Wildcats had (by the RFL's admission) just scraped through the franchise decision making process. I also believe that the Wildcats' franchise application was entirely centred around Thornes Park being a goer. As the RFL pointed out, Wakey clearly had "...no Plan B" to fall back on.
Yes, I would use the word 'smokescreen'. At best, the timing had staggeringly fortunate consequences for your club's franchise application wouldn't you say?
Incidentally, around this time the Wakey messageboard (sorry, I mean that part of RLFans which some people think of as 'the Wakey bit') was full of indignant Wakey fans calling the council leaders various shades of evil for not making any announcement [iin the run up to[/i the franchise decisions being made. Funny? I almost had a seizure...
But one thing I'm absolutely positive about is that, if Cas do end up having to try and pull the same trick, it'll be the Wakey fans who'll be first in the queue to moan about it.
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| Quote ="tigerbaz"icon_eek.gif look at the regs *r
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Who look lets resort to name calling from behind a screen, brave man.
Good luck with the Cas stadium to normal Cas fans.
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| Quote ="Disco"What I believe is that the announcement regarding Thornes Park's demise was not officially made until [iafter[/i the Wildcats had (by the RFL's admission) just scraped through the franchise decision making process. I also believe that the Wildcats' franchise application was entirely centred around Thornes Park being a goer. As the RFL pointed out, Wakey clearly had "...no Plan B" to fall back on.
Yes, I would use the word 'smokescreen'. At best, the timing had staggeringly fortunate consequences for your club's franchise application wouldn't you say?
Incidentally, around this time the Wakey messageboard (sorry, I mean that part of RLFans which some people think of as 'the Wakey bit') was full of indignant Wakey fans calling the council leaders various shades of evil for not making any announcement [iin the run up to[/i the franchise decisions being made. Funny? I almost had a seizure...
But one thing I'm absolutely positive about is that, if Cas do end up having to try and pull the same trick, it'll be the Wakey fans who'll be first in the queue to moan about it.
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Just going to ignore the £20,000 spent by the council then?? and stick to your smokescreen theory!?
p.s really doubt wakey fans will be that bothered to be honest, as long as 'we' are ok that is!
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| Quote ="SimonBarrett"Just going to ignore the £20,000 spent by the council then?? and stick to your smokescreen theory!?'"
Don't play games mate. I'm ignoring the twenty grand because it has absolutely f*ck all to do with the timing of the announcement, upon which my smokescreen "theory" rests.
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| Quote ="Disco"Don't play games mate. I'm ignoring the twenty grand because it has absolutely f*ck all to do with the timing of the announcement, upon which my smokescreen "theory" rests.
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The timing of the announcement was up to and in the hands of the council!!!! It was them that went to the RFL and told them about THEIR plans!
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| Oh how wonderfully naive....
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| Quote ="Disco"Oh how wonderfully naive....
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If you say so.........l mean, you could not possible be wrong could you!???
This is quite fun.....do you know who you remind me of??? Our very own Vastman!
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| Except Disco makes a valid point, which Vastman rarely ever does.
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| Quote ="SimonBarrett"If you say so.........l mean, you could not possible be wrong could you!???'"
Well I suppose it's theoretically possible, but...
Quote ="SimonBarrett"This is quite fun.....do you know who you remind me of??? Our very own Vastman!'"
Ding ding ding ding ding.... We have a WINNER!
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| Quote ="Fully"Except Disco makes a valid point, which Vastman rarely ever does.
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| Quote ="vastman"Oh that is such a poor attempt to deflect criticism
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Criticism? You undersell yourself my dear chap... I considered it a compliment!
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| Quote ="Disco"Criticism? You undersell yourself my dear chap... I considered it a compliment!
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| Quote ="Disco" "Find where I said that"'"
Imagine that, having to trawl through Vastmans posts to find them.
Rather you than me mate.
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| Lock this thread. It's going nowhere fast.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"Good luck with the Cas stadium to normal Cas fans.'"
In line with this thread I take great exception to this remark!
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| Time for RW to follow the lead of Saints by issuing a statement as to what stage the club are at regarding the new stadium.
[urlhttp://www.saintsrlfc.com/news/1703[/url
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| Quote ="THE BUNGLER"Time for RW to follow the lead of Saints by issuing a statement as to what stage the club are at regarding the new stadium.
[urlhttp://www.saintsrlfc.com/news/1703[/url'"
To be fair
If RW says nowt he gets criticised for saying nowt
When he said that we'd got funding for a 13000 seater and was holding out for funding for a 15000 seater he was accused of being economical with the truth.
It's still unclear whether we're going for a stadium to incorporate council facilities. If this is still going through debate at council he can say nothing without repeating what's been said before.
If he issues a statement saying that nothing has changed, there'll be a howl of protest about no progress being made.
Having been "the bloke in charge" when there's been a crisis, I know from experience that no matter what you say you can't win. You can be totally open and honest, but there are people who make up their mind that you're a liar, part of a cover-up or a conspiracy, and nothing that you can do will change their mind.
It's very hard to prove that things are going to plan. Someone is ALWAYS going to suspect that you know something they don't, and then tell it to all and sundry. The verifiable evidence is that we've got a site, we've got outline permission, the site is being prepared for building of some kind, there's a board up from the developers saying it's for a new stadium for the Tigers, and Waystone's website shows an artist's impression of what it will look like. We've also made a deal with developers to sell the Jungle.
It may seem naive (so is the name of a top brand of bottled water, backwards) but would Waystone have done the artists impressions and put the board up if there was a good chance that the whole thing was going to turn into some sort of embarrassing white elephant?
No matter what RW says, some will believe him and some won't. Then the same old debate kicks off again. We'll only find out for sure when the first bits are erected, or when the diggers leave never to return.
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| It was only a matter of time that Wakey would make an annoucement. However, if I was a Wakey fan I would be seriously questionning the location. There is nothing around that area and would be a serious bottle neck for traffic (unless there will be additional links added of course). It's no where near the old stadium and certainly no local pubs for a pre-match drink. Fantastic for away fans as you can spit to the M62 and away you go. Least ours has something around it in regards to rail links and entertainment both pre and post match.
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| Quote ="jungle man"It was only a matter of time that Wakey would make an annoucement. However, if I was a Wakey fan I would be seriously questionning the location. There is nothing around that area and would be a serious bottle neck for traffic (unless there will be additional links added of course). It's no where near the old stadium and certainly no local pubs for a pre-match drink. Fantastic for away fans as you can spit to the M62 and away you go. Least ours has something around it in regards to rail links and entertainment both pre and post match.'"
By all accounts the stadium is stage one of a massive development.
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