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| Quote ="adam9641"But surely everyone will want a top game of rugby league to pay the perfect tribute to Leon? If we get hammered it won’t be a too good a tribute but as long as it’s a good game with some quality rugby skill on show from both teams then it will be a great tribute to the lad.'"
Clearly not everyone mate - that's the point, we don't all feel the same about things. To be honest we really all need to separate the Rugby side of this from the emotional before it becomes another (much smaller) Princess Di style circus. Whatever the odd Cas fan things isn't going to make a blind bit of difference to the pain being felt by those who really knew Leon. We need to retain some perspective on this, sad as I am for Leon it won't alter my life in any significant way and I imagine even less so those who are not Trin fans or who don't embrace the game as a whole.
To be honest a game of RL has to be treated as just that, the real tribute is that Leon has clearly left a number of people who will really miss him, and hat is really tribute enough. I don't care what Danny? or WRE think I will attend tomorrow, show my respects and hopefully enjoy a winning performance - it won't quite quite as easy as normal but I will do my best to enjoy my hobby.
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| Quote ="vastman"Clearly not everyone mate - that's the point, we don't all feel the same about things. To be honest we really all need to separate the Rugby side of this from the emotional before it becomes another (much smaller) Princess Di style circus. Whatever the odd Cas fan things isn't going to make a blind bit of difference to the pain being felt by those who really knew Leon. We need to retain some perspective on this, sad as I am for Leon it won't alter my life in any significant way and I imagine even less so those who are not Trin fans or who don't embrace the game as a whole.
To be honest a game of RL has to be treated as just that, the real tribute is that Leon has clearly left a number of people who will really miss him, and hat is really tribute enough. I don't care what Danny? or WRE think I will attend tomorrow, show my respects and hopefully enjoy a winning performance - it won't quite quite as easy as normal but I will do my best to enjoy my hobby.'"
Agreed, the comment p!ssed me off a bit.
Just hope we can go out and do not just Leon but the others that are sadly not with us any more. Will be an emotional night, but a night where I will be proud to call myself a Wakey fan.
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| Quote ="Disco"I think if you can't say the right thing it's probably best to say nowt. If Wakey winning would bring a small shred of solace to the Walker family then screw the league table, I hope they win.'"
Agreed.
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| Quote ="Legionited"Agreed.'"
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| Quote ="danny boy1"Leon's family and friends have my deepest sympathy, but I won't extend my sympathies to cheering the Pussycats on, unless it benefits us, which it won't. I will definitely be rooting for a Saints win.
Really have to be a Saints supporter on Friday and hope they win by a good margin, the points difference will push us above Wakey. Also long term, I think our place in a top 8 play off positions will be influenced more by Wakey than Saints.
Come on you Saints!'"
I am sat in front of my PC with my Watene wrist band on and a BIG pic Adam looking down on me, i swear blind he's just shook his head and he's watched me read this post.
Let me just remind you that fans all over the country are thinking about Leon and is parents/family and friends, and if a Wakey win helps them in anyway, then thats how it should be.
One day you may be man enough to understand "life" but untill then carry on mate
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| Quote ="Disco"I think if you can't say the right thing it's probably best to say nowt. If Wakey winning would bring a small shred of solace to the Walker family then screw the league table, I hope they win.'"
I am pretty sure thats the view of most Cas fans and would like to thank you for saying that.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"I am pretty sure thats the view of most Cas fans and would like to thank you for saying that.
Alan.'"
I think when folk really sit down and think properly about it, it'd likely be the view of all of us. Probably even a big majority of Saints fans. Good luck!
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| I think my response has been taken totally out of context!
I am deeply sorry that Leon lost his life, I really do have the deepest sympathy for his family and friends. I will pause for thought about poor Leon, who was so tragically taken in the prime of his life (as I have done since I first heard of the tragedy) and mourn his loss during the minutes silence.
Once the game is under way, I'm sure there will still be thoughts of sorrow about Leon, but as Vastman so eloquently put it, the game itself and the result is absolutely unconnected. I was merely responding to a previous comment, where Marshman for example, said he would be supporting Wakefield every game this season, and nowhere did I say "hammered".
For adam9641 to say I have no place in rugby league is an absolute insult, I expressed my feelings and gave my condolences on the Wakefield supporters forum, as I did in my opening comment on this, the Castleford forum. I do feel sorry for the Wakefield club, the players and officials, having had to deal with a second tragedy in such a short space of time.
I really don't feel I have expressed anywhere, that we or any other club for that matter, benefit from poor Leon's death.
I do know how devastating such a death can be from first hand experience, as I coached a lad even younger than poor Leon, who collapsed on a rugby field and died later in hospital, it really is impossible to express how painful and traumatic an experience it is.
As far as Leon's family is concerned, their loss is the greatest, losing a son at such a young age, I really do feel for them and I'm sure that result of the game is of little or no consequence to them and no matter what the score, their sorrow and loss will not be made any less, it is after all, only a game and not matter of life and death.
RIP Leon.
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| Quote ="danny boy1" but I won't extend my sympathies to cheering the Pussycats on, unless it benefits us, which it won't. I will definitely be rooting for a Saints win.
Really have to be a Saints supporter on Friday and hope they win by a good margin, the points difference will push us above Wakey. Also long term, I think our place in a top 8 play off positions will be influenced more by Wakey than Saints.
Come on you Saints!'"
What do you class that as then? You want Cas to benefit from the game, no one and I mean no one should want any sort of benefit from the game at all.
What I would like to think we all want is a top class game of rugby to pay a great tribute to Leon, who loved his rugby and everything he did as about rugby
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| Quote ="adam9641"What do you class that as then? You want Cas to benefit from the game, no one and I mean no one should want any sort of benefit from the game at all.'"
Would you prefer a Wakefield win tonight?
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Would prefer a good game of rugby league first all all, like Kear has said. A good game of rugby with high levels of skill comes first, the win comes 2nd.
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| Quote ="adam9641"Would prefer a good game of rugby league first all all, like Kear has said. A good game of rugby with high levels of skill comes first, the win comes 2nd.'"
I commend your attitude, mate, but I don't think wanting your team (and Leon's team) to win is in any way disrespectful and nobody should feel guilty for saying so.
A good win and a good pi$$ up afterwards to toast his memory will do some of the lads good after what will have been a bloody horrible week.
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| Quote ="adam9641"What do you class that as then? You want Cas to benefit from the game, no one and I mean no one should want any sort of benefit from the game at all.
What I would like to think we all want is a top class game of rugby to pay a great tribute to Leon, who loved his rugby and everything he did as about rugby'"
How is a Saints win gaining benefit from Leon's death, you are twisting what I said!
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| Quote ="-DAZ-"I commend your attitude, mate, but I don't think wanting your team (and Leon's team) to win is in any way disrespectful and nobody should feel guilty for saying so.
A good win and a good pi$$ up afterwards to toast his memory will do some of the lads good after what will have been a bloody horrible week.'"
But saying he hopes we "lose by a big score" I think that was a little off, but then to say he did not say he wanted Cas to benefit, even though he said "it would push us above them in the league"
It’s the way he put it that got to me, I would not be bothered if he had said it in a different way. A simple “As sad as it is I will not be supporting Wakey tonight” would have done.
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| Quote ="danny boy1"How is a Cas win gaining benefit from Leon's death, you are twisting what I said!'"
No, I never said that. But hoping Wakey to lose by a big score on what will be an emotional night is what p!ssed me off.
I don't mind you not supporting Wakey, that would have been ok but saying you wanted us to lose by a big score etc is a bit off IMO
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| Quote ="adam9641"But saying he hopes we "lose by a big score" I think that was a little off, but then to say he did not say he wanted Cas to benefit, even though he said "it would push us above them in the league"
It’s the way he put it that got to me, I would not be bothered if he had said it in a different way. A simple “As sad as it is I will not be supporting Wakey tonight” would have done.'"
I'm on about you and other Wakey fans who might feel a bit guilty for saying they hope and want a Wakefield win tonight.
It'll be a sad and sombre night but when that hooter goes I imagine it'll be business as usual (or at least that'll the aim) for the Trin lads.
Danny Boy could have worded what he posted more sensitively, I agree.
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| Quote ="-DAZ-"I'm on about you and other Wakey fans who might feel a bit guilty for saying they hope and want a Wakefield win tonight.
It'll be a sad and sombre night but when that hooter goes I imagine it'll be business as usual (or at least that'll the aim) for the Trin lads.
Danny Boy could have worded what he posted more sensitively, I agree.'"
Like I said not fussed about a win and I do mean that. Although a win would be great I would much prefer a top game of rugby.
Be a weird feeling tonight that is for sure. I just hope our fans turn up in force and get behind the lads more than ever as they need our support
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| Quote ="adam9641"No, I never said that. But hoping Wakey to lose by a big score on what will be an emotional night is what p!ssed me off.
I don't mind you not supporting Wakey, that would have been ok but saying you wanted us to lose by a big score etc is a bit off IMO'"
I am not a Wakefield supporter, never will be, I fought hard to ensure we didn't merge all those years ago!
I am a Castleford supporter, so can't contemplate supporting Wakefield in a game. If shouting for Wakefield tonight could bring back poor Leon, then I would shout for Wakefield, but it won't, so I won't.
I do however, like to see a good game of rugby league and hope it's a good spectacle tonight, but with a favourable result for Cas, but again I reiterate that it is unrelated to Leon and anyway, it doesn't matter what I want or don't want to happen tonight, as nothing I can do or say will have the slightest impact!
The result should not be effected by Poor Leon's passing, but could be, positively or negatively, I am not hoping for a decent margin win because of Leon's passing, it is totally unconnected, when will you get that?
As far as Leon's parents are concerned, I really feel for them, as I've already said, but tonight's game is nothing when compared to the life of their poor son. I hope the minutes silence is strictly observed, that will be more important than the game for his poor parents and family.
The result will be inconsequential to them.
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| Quote ="adam9641"No, I never said that. But hoping Wakey to lose by a big score on what will be an emotional night is what p!ssed me off.
I don't mind you not supporting Wakey, that would have been ok but saying you wanted us to lose by a big score etc is a bit off IMO'"
Give it a rest, "danny boy1" has put a fair response on here explaining how he feels. All you are doing is making things worse by trying to score points by taking the moral high ground which makes you nothing more than a hypocrite.
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| Quote ="danny boy1"I am not a Wakefield supporter, never will be, I fought hard to ensure we didn't merge all those years ago!
I am a Castleford supporter, so can't contemplate supporting Wakefield in a game. If shouting for Wakefield tonight could bring back poor Leon, then I would shout for Wakefield, but it won't, so I won't.
I do however, like to see a good game of rugby league and hope it's a good spectacle tonight, but with a favourable result for Cas, but again I reiterate that it is unrelated to Leon and anyway, it doesn't matter what I want or don't want to happen tonight, as nothing I can do or say will have the slightest impact!
The result should not be effected by Poor Leon's passing, but could be, positively or negatively, I am not hoping for a decent margin win because of Leon's passing, it is totally unconnected, when will you get that?
As far as Leon's parents are concerned, I really feel for them, as I've already said, but tonight's game is nothing when compared to the life of their poor son. I hope the minutes silence is strictly observed, that will be more important than the game for his poor parents and family.
The result will be inconsequential to them.'"
Wanting us to lose by a big score line would make it a even more tragic week for the club, whilst putting in a good performance and a quality game would mean we give a good tribute for Leon in front of his family who will be at the game tonight.
I have every faith in the lads that they will do well tonight, ethier way I will clap them off as I am very proud of them. They have had to deal with a lot of adversity in recent weeks and months and they have done so in way that makes all supporters of Wakey feel very proud
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| Quote ="Big Man"Give it a rest, "danny boy1" has put a fair response on here explaining how he feels. All you are doing is making things worse by trying to score points by taking the moral high ground which makes you nothing more than a hypocrite.'"
Hypocrite NO
Wanting to score points NO
Jog on!
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| I am sorry but I don't think any of this is appropriate at this time, so pack it in the lot of you or the thread will be locked
It is unbelievable that some people feel the need to make such posts.... have some respect
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| Quote ="Hughies sister"I am sorry but I don't think any of this is appropriate at this time, so pack it in the lot of you or the thread will be locked
It is unbelievable that some people feel the need to make such posts.... have some respect'"
I do have respect, hence wanting a good quality rugby league game tonight rather than a win.I just want a good game to pay Leon a good memory in his familys presence
Any way, I won't post again on here so don't worry about that.
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| Quote ="Hughies sister"I am sorry but I don't think any of this is appropriate at this time, so pack it in the lot of you or the thread will be locked
It is unbelievable that some people feel the need to make such posts.... have some respect'"
Yes thats probably best, emotions running high and words taken out of context at this sad time, for my part in this if anyone feels offended then i'm sorry.
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| Quote ="Hughies sister"I am sorry but I don't think any of this is appropriate at this time, so pack it in the lot of you or the thread will be locked
It is unbelievable that some people feel the need to make such posts.... have some respect'"
Sooner the better - such a nice thread to start with
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