No I didn't imply that. I told it how it is. You are just talking nonsensical rubbish. ban all short passes indeed?

The short flat ball has been a part of our game for over 100 years. Cas get one 60/50 call go against them and you lot want the rules changing. You would think the Leeds pass was a me forward? It was debatable at best.

No, they were both 50/50 calls. But if you deny one, you have to deny the other. You can't have one rule for one team and one rule for another, regardless of distance.

yeah if the wind is strong that would make it worse too.


I don't agree with that at all. Obviously one call has got you all fired up. I would say get over it, but it's not gonna happen

It wasn't one call, was it though. It was three - 2 for us and 1 for you.

Oh, and there was another blatant forward pass in the 2nd half when you were returning a ball and I think it was Watkins and Webb were together about a metre apart and one of them chucked the ball to other so blatantly forward yet that was missed too.

I ve explained it. You just haven't got enough logic and reason to get past your anger, sadness, how gutted you are? I'm not sure which one it is?

This isn't a reasonable debate. You just think Cas were hard done to and that's it for you.

Did you find Leeds fans moaning when silverwood disallowed 4 first half Leeds tries against Wigan a few weeks back for the same thing Cas did on Friday? No we didn't. You just take it on the chin.

You basically have sifted through my posts ignored the bits that you can't debate and come up with cas robbed.

Poor poor show pal. My 4 year old god daughter has better debating skills than you! And better rl knowledge by the looks of it.

I repeat Leeds got the wrong end of the stick against the pies a few weeks ago. Some you get some you don't. You need to get over it.

Explained what? All you've done is try to say that Leeds' try was fine is because it was over a shorter distance?

Yes, I think Cas were hard done to. And judging by the other posts across the majority of other forums, other people would tend to agree. You seem to take this as some anti-Leeds thing; it isn't. I'd be the same whether it was against Wigan, Leeds or Catalans. My point stands and if the referee cannot judge it then there are two touchjudges, who can view it too.

I'm not a regular reader of the Leeds forum, so no, I wouldn't have seen if people had moaned about the decisions. But that's irrelevant in the grand scheme of things as it's a different game. As for sifting through your posts, how can I sift through posts that are two/three lines long and making one point?

As for the insult at the bottom, if that's the best you can come up with then it would suggest YOU have the issues, not me. My RL knowledge is quite good, thank you very much.

Utter rubbish? Posts that are 3 lines long? wrong, Other forums? Like the Wigan forum ! Theirs fans hate Leeds as much as some of your lot! The reaction comes after Leeds take a team to the cleaners? Surprise suprise. Nobody defended Leeds after the Wigan game. Sounds fans are gutted Leeds are back on the horse. Don't worry we will be crap again next week.

When i see a forward pass by any team on sky it's wrong if it isn't picked up. If it was cas i would say so. We keep getting told that over the course of a season it all levels out, i don't buy into this as a previous poster mentioned saints are well known for it.
The problem is not the players it's the refs and linesmen which let teams get away with it because if they did pull it every time we wouldn't have a free flowing game. What we need to do IS PULL IT UP EVERY TIME then the players would have no choice but to comply. It would spoil the game but in the long term supporters wouldn't think the refs are bent.
Will it happen no, not a chance imagine playing the kiwis/aussies we would be playing different games. Does it need to happen? something needs to happen because too many fans are becoming fed up.

Two big games in the Premier League this weekend with huge financial implications.

One goal given that wasn't over the line.
One goal given that was off side
Two clear penalties not given.

No influence there then.

with one of the tries even stood behind the sticks I called it forward the moment the ball left a Cas players hands and sure enough Silverwood called it

But TV evidence shows it was nowhere near forward. Your next point is...?

You obviously didn't watch Spurs v Chelsea last night the officals gave chelsea that game but yea you raise a good point rugby can be heavly influenced by the ref.

You have totally lost it. You had a rough deal I'll grant you but why assume you'd have won the game even if you got the rub of the green. To me Leeds looked the better team from start to finish.

In terms of invention and creativity, Cas were the better team for the first half - no question. They dominated possession and territory, got some bad calls and had the controversial calls gone the other way, Cas would have been comfortably in the lead at half time. So, I'm sorry but you are completely wrong when you say that Leeds looked the better team from start to finish... put simply, they didn't.

This is the most Cas tinted posting I've seen post match!

Tell me what I've said that's not true, then!

It's not that we'd have necessarily won; that cannot be just guessed. However, those decisions did alter the course of the game and had we got one try, the momentum MAY have shifted and we'd have got the ball back.

It's history but the scoreline was harsh on Cas and we deserved more than just the single score on the board to show for our efforts, in particular the first half where we stood toe to toe with Leeds.

Nothing pal.

I have actually watched the replay, which many Cas fans will have found hard to do. Eddie and Stevo reitterate the exact comments you've made. We had a lot of territory and ball which we failed to capitalise on... Apparently.

One thing I forgot to mention was that we heeled a scrum against the head as well. We laughed about it at the time!

Both calls were very harsh and it should have been 8/12 - 12 at half time but it doesn't change the 6 - 30 second half score, at half time the game (at 2 scores) was not beyond Cas.

Well it's all about opinions and mine is that Leeds were better from start to finish. If your definition of creativity is Chase or Orr running like headless chickens along the line then you won it hands down. If you see creativity as actually moving your team forward and scoring then Leeds had it.

I don't doubt you got some tough calls, don't we all. However the assumption that had you got the right calls it would have affected the result is hugely debatable on recent form. You built up an impressive lead against a Wakefield team that is a wee bit weaker than Leeds only to lose it. I would confidently predict owt we can do they can do better.

So put simply and thanks for the advice but in my opinion Leeds looked like they would win it from the start to me.

Which is why Cas got over the line 3 times, were held up inches short on one occasion and spent most of the first 40 attacking in the Leeds half of the pitch.



So tell me where I said we would have won it had the calls gone our way. All I was saying was that we looked good in the first half and we had more go forward and creativity than Leeds.



I appreciate that. It's just that your opinion is groundless.

It's the RFL that are completely at fault, they want what they think is best for the game and sadly that hasn't been the case for decades.
In terms of refereeing the game, stricter & consistant enforcement of the rules which are being broken by players/coaches (deliberately or not) would ensure that we have a much cleaner game with fewer perceptible infringments in the long run. If players know they are going to be pulled up then they won't do it, simple. The knock on (pardon the pun) effect means as you say fans are no longer left feeling bitter about results/decisions made on any given match.

By allowing such things as wrestling and 'flat' or slightly forward passes go by it means coaches and players push the legality of the rules to such an extent that to pull each infringement up is deemed poor refereeing. The players are then at fault NOT the officials.

I'd have to disagree with whowever said it is harder to spot a forward pass when it is short, the short penultimate pass for the Leeds try in question was by far the easiest to see (AND clearly FORWAAAAARD..lol), the 2 Cas one's were 50/50 however based on previous officating standards throughout SL for years they should have stood.

You don't buy into it? honestly?

I suggest you watch a video of your game against Crusaders earlier this year. If you can honestly come back on here and say that four of your tries were not forward with one been the worst you will have seen in last 10 years, then fair enough. I hope you have more about you though, and will come back and accept that yes, they actually do even themselves out.