Chissitt trust me there are as many Wakie trolls as Cas trolls but it is an open forum so that's how it goes.

As for picking holes in the statement, that's what debating is all about and you cant tell me you really think the council have said they will only back NM and not GH as is intimated in the statement.

Time will tell but i believe as much that comes out from both clubs as i do when MPs talk in the run up to an election

? Has Barnsley upped sticks and left Yorkshire then?

Think he meant South Yorkshire as opposed to West Yorkshire, judging by how they speak thou definitely

That would be nice!

Being both a Trinity and a Barnsley fan I take offense to the above.
I can think of another sporting group Yorkshire can do without. One who had "fans" taken away in riot vans this weekend.

As was said on the Wakefield forum;

"People in Glasshoughton shouldn't throw stones."

Or, the real version of events: he got a talking to because Ganson took offence to being called a cheat and asked for said fan to be ejected, the police had a word with him that's all, but lets not let facts get in the way of your crap, eh?

Oh, and it was 1 person, not in a riot van, not multiple people so to say you're way off the mark, as per usual, is an under statement, now to copy the rest of your mob over on your forum:





























TROLL WHY POST ON OUR BOARD BOOOO HOOOO

Is this not the Wakefield board?? Sorry I get confused with how much your on our board.
If it's wide of the mark that's fair enough but that was what I was told.
I guess when you get a reputation for causing trouble these things just catch on.

I'm sure the RFL know the truth about what happened, one thing is for sure though, if a team in another country dislikes you that must tell you something about A) your reputation & B) how the general RL community see your club.

TBF It is my main concern for a groundshare.

You post so much crap it is actually untrue, Crusaders seemingly like nobody, they don't like Fev, Widnes, Leigh for starts so there's another of your points gone.

Reputation? there is no reputation

15 teenagers, compared to a good 100 or so you lot have that have been smashing gravestones and peoples cars after games, glass houses and what not

or is that conveniently forgotten about?

And you needn't be concerned about a ground share, because Newmarket is going to get called in and take at least 4 years, by which point you won't have a club to support because if the taxman hasn't had his way, whoever purchased Belle Vue, will have.

I suppose that depends on which crow you use! If you travel by car it's 9.9 miles!

Called in by whom?

The government? Not at all. As much as i dislike old David, he and his group of toffs are all about economic regeneration, this plan sits perfectly within their view for the future, the council support the scheme; so if are required will give a glowing statement saying why the region needs this development. Then their is the big issue; cost. Applications to the SoS are being returned almost instantly due to the expense of an inquiry.
There was never an issue with LCC, only with one councilor and he has been told to keep his head down.

I suggest you speak to our resident developer Inflatable Armadillo (who is actually a Leeds fan), he will clear this issue up for you old boy.

Clutching at straws much?? Have a whiskey this evening Gaslight, it will help you get round the worry and sleep ahead of your announcement!

No clutching at straws from me, the fact you think Cameron gives a toss what's happening up north is slightly humerus though

if Leeds council tried, your development would be dead within a month, far bigger (and richer) council with far more clout to do as they please.

That's one Hell of an S&M fetish!

But they don't object. As I and others connected with SWAG have tried to tell you LCC has been consulted from the start and shown nothing but cooperation, one councilor looking to consolidate his support spoke out, before deciding to go one step further and wrote to the planners. This was not well received by either WMDC or LCC as many of the facts he stated (greenbelt/traffic/drainage) were ill informed and almost libelous. He was quickly told to pipe down and keep stum.

Clear now?

"However Leeds City Council said it objected to the proposal and would ask local government planning inspectors to step in if Wakefield approved the plans"

[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/8705372.stmBBC link[/url

I clearly said I might be wrong it's just something I heard. That said the county you are in is utterly irrelevant as far as I'm aware, a RL club is defined by it's development area and catchment area. I suspect but I may be wrong that Oakwell and Barnsley fall into that area for us. Added to this Barnsley has no RL team whilst Doncaster does, which for me rules it out as an option.

What Wakefield have in Barnsley all be it theoretical is not an emergency ground share which is all say Donny would be for you but and alternative ground available to them should Barnsley agree to a share.

This may not seem fair or right but in the narrow confines of the franchise system it makes total sense. If we moved to Barnsley we would tick absolutely every box in the franchise and gain a licence with ease. Whether it would work in economic terms in the long term I have no idea. Personally I don't think it would work any more than I think you ground sharing with Donny would.

Just because you don't like what outsiders say doesn't mean it's wrong or they are having a dig. If what I'm saying is valid is it not better to know and thus prepare your plan of action rather than stick your heads in the sand.

Or would you rather trust Mr Wright forever and a day, prove me wrong and remove that potential issue from the argument I'm hardly claiming what I say is gospel.

Or shall we just revert to the old Vasty is nasty, he's really awful to us blah blah blah

Anyway it could be worse, Peter Roe suggested Wakey and Cas merge, rent Featherstones ground and Fev take the extra SL place - anything I say is reasonable compared to that and he gets air time on the BBC! That is what we are all up against in the wonderful world of RL.

Leeds Council can say what they like, they have not got the power or the will to force the issue - straws clutching of.

This is just my opinion:

Announcement made a wakey yesterday to appease the fans, it said they were still working towards Newmarket and I expect RW to say more or less the same that we are still working towards GH. Both sets of fans will them convince themselves that the BOD's are going to stick to their guns and their ground will prove to be the one chosen.

However in reality both clubs have to keep focused on their own ground and keep working towards building the stadium as 1 will be chosen and to just wait and see would lose valuable time in the building planning process. Once the study has decided which is the best option the 'losing club will come out with a statement saying despite wanting to build own stadium we will have to share, that way the BOD's look like its the council forcing them into the decision and the fans anger will be directed at the coucil and not at the club.

However (and again this is just my opinion not from a 'reliable source') if GH gets the go ahead and Wakey are determind to press ahead with NM what would be the chances of getting planning permission if the council had already deemed that it is not the best option?????

Niether fans from Cas and Wakey really want to share but if it's the only way one of us is going to have to bite the bullet and move.

Stop talking mindless rubbish, you're making an utter fool of yourself.

Leeds Council have minor objections. So what, the land falls under the control of WMDC and it's planning departments and other agencies will decide whether it goes to a public enquiry which seems unlikely.

I find it truly pathetic that you are pinning your hopes on the ludicrous and made up theory that Leeds MDC can somehow bully another very large MDC into doing it's bidding, grow up and stop being so bitter.

The Leeds objection by the way was raised by one Councilor and is not Leeds MDC policy and as ever is something the press have latched onto.

Best of luck with Glasshoughton, now show us some good grace and offer us the same - I won't hold my breath

Not sure there will be a feasability study now mate, no point if one club has already said they will only back there own project.

The statement read out yesterday was written and released by Rodney Walker and the Wakefield Community Trust with the agreement of WMDC and Yorkcort as far as I could tell. This is to say it wasn't an announcement by the club, the club were just passing on the news. I'm not saying we have it and you don't I really don't know either, I just felt it was important to note where this statement came from. Had it just been a Trinity club statement I'd have forgotten it by now but it wasn't it was drafted and approved by people far higher up the pecking order than Ted Richardson or Richard Wright.

Thanks for the best of luck regarding Glasshoughton and I wish Wakefield the best for Newmarket.

We have all said (both sets of fans) smoke and mirrors, the powers that be can make as many announcements to fans as they like promising the earth......... but in the cold light of day behind closed doors deals will be made.

Lets just wait and see and unite as two sets of fans wanting the best for our clubs instead of trying to prove each other wrong or playing the my dad is bigger than your dad game because lets face it 80% of people on these message boards have minimal experience in business, council planning applications or financial accounts.

And the excuse the council wanted to withdraw the offer of land worth 2 million from both clubs.

People can debate about the 2 stadiums while they are blue in the face as far as I am concerned, It will only interest me if and when the bulldozers' start levelling the ground and the concrete is being poured, and as for Mr Box that man will say anything bar his prayers as been the case in the past on numerous occasions regarding Wakey so i think you will find that a lot of Wakey fans might be a lot happier than they were, You will find the majority are far from ecstatic atm. I just find it annoying when such as Marshy criticises Wakey fans for discussing it on here but finds it acceptable for Cas fans to discuss it on the Wakey board, I would point out though that debating is usually done by two sensible parties and not where one is simply out to insult the other people, for comformation of this read the two threads on the Wakey board regarding stadiums.

The polecats will have to go to a public enquiry end of, that will be a minimum of 12 months from any potential planning permissions, they cant get away with it, it effects 200 acres of greenbelt.

Oh nice to see vastypants has crawled back out still talking out of his anus i see, if he cares to read the statutory statement from Leeds council he will see what the councils policy is, not one mans, but the council [url=http://cominoweb.wakefield.gov.uk/Planning/lg/GFPlanningDocuments.page?org.apache.shale.dialog.DIALOG_NAME=gfplanningsearch&Param=lg.Planning&viewdocs=true&SDescription=10/00225/OUTintresting Reading, Section 5[/url

IE THE PLANS PANEL (NOT JUST ONE COUNCILOR) RAISED STRONG OBJECTION TO THE PROPOSAL ON GREEN BELT HIGHWAYS AND NATURE CONSERVATION GROUNDS..... CONT AND THEN IT GOES ONTO SAY THAT IN ADDITION A COUNCILOR GOLTON MADE THE FOLLOWING COMMENTS TO WHICH LARGLY REFLECTS THE PANELS POSITION

The plans panel considered that the overall amount of the development was "unwelcome and unnecessary" and also requested that officers sent a copy of the objection directly to the goverment Office



So vastypants, please engage brain before putting mouth into gear eh