Remember the owd coaching term " tha cont run bowt legs " Cas need to go back to basics and like many teams need to get out of this fixation of attacking the ball on defence .
Three man tackles one round legs one covering ball and one finishing off i know its old school but its bloody effective if executed.
The cas mis tackles on one on one was a major factor tonight .
On a positive note I thought Jimmy Grehan had a big game on defence only had him down for one missed tackle and that was at the end of the game . I know i,m biased but i thought he showed up well on defence .

It's quite embarrassing to see a fan start off a whinge thread about the referee, who I thought had a solid game apart from one incident (how did he not give a penalty when the ball was passed off the floor, the TJ was right next to him!).

The whinge then descends into a bitch fest about the coaching staff, who are led by a man who has only just returned to the country after a huge bereavement. Now if you don't think that will have affected Cas' preparations then you might as well not go and watch them because you definitely aren't 'supporting' your club. I think right now they need your support more than ever to get through this difficult patch they're in. Millward's hardly been there 4 months. It wil take time for him to get the team to play the way he wants, not to mention you have a lot of deadwood in the team that needs cutting still (McGoldrick needs to go).

Show some support to your team. They really need it.

I'm with Wellsy on this and have to disagree with Gronk that the defence looked poor right from the 1st game against Salford.

Most people who went to Salford or watched it on tv will have come away quite happy with the defence that to my recollection seemed pretty solid in that game.

The following week whilst most people, myself included, saw the loss to Bradford as a missed opportunity I thought it was more down to poor options in attack than woeful defending. Bradford's subsequent away results have shown they're not a bad side either.

Then we went to Catalans and very nearly beat a side that many consider will be pushing for a top 4 finish.

So I'd say things looked reasonably ok prior to Millward hearing the tragic news and handing over the reins for a few weeks.

I'm pretty sure things will improve now Millwards back but it may take some time....

i was debating this during the match and i agree the refereeing is at an all time low pass off the floor head highs given that arent head high and clear head shots not given the 3 or 4 pens on giants line, well shoot me down if u wish, but the day i see all feet behind the line at a ptb near the line ill buy a dark side season pass

you could have given off side against both teams every time week in week out its happening now. Rovers home game vs widnes paea grounded the ball having not heard held penalty 1st set 2nd half off load after call go back play the ball. Most games it matters not as the gulf between top and bottom is worsening (a whole other problem) but poor refereeing will decide crucial games rant over nrl is calling me

FWIW as a Giants fan I thought Ganson was abysmal for us too.

How on earth he didnt go to the screen for your try is beyond me when it was a blatant dropped ball...and that was after he was making up reasons to give Cas a penalty.

code 13 sums it up when fans from both sides think it was a poor ref id say the ref was poor and yes go to screen to check a restart from a kick dead but just wave the try in

Looks like they need more time than us. Thought we are poor but that took the biscuit last night.

I just thought Huddersfield were a very good side who looked superfit. There was a time when you had them under the pressure and I'm not sure they defended well when they were, but in attack they were superb.

It was their fitness that struck me, and I wonder whether Millward is off the pace fitness-wise. It's a few years since he has been in super league, and the top teams look extremely well-conditioned. The last decent team he coached was already a top side and so he wasn't playing catch up. They just looked so much bigger and stronger and faster.

Chase must be delighted that he signed that contract extension. I actually feel quite sorry for him wasting his career away surrounded by that team. It was only 2 years ago that you were a good side that played some excellent RL.

Your not sure giants defended well under pressure? How many back to back sets did they defend on the line before cas scored. How many missed tackles did the giants rack up ALL GAME? -ONE. You clearly don't know good defence when it's in front of you. One missed tackle.

Now I'm not having a pop here , but that was dreadful I thought Cas would do well this season,based on that performance and previous,It's looking like a bleak season.

Have a look at the table we have lost 5 games but are only 4 points off 8th place. Wakey aren't much better and look at all the players they have bought. The season is far from over and when your down there's only one way to go up up up.

A side higher up the table would have got through you. Cas made some good inroads at times but just couldn't convert. Don't get all up yourself. Go back to this time last year, after 7 rounds. I seem to remember Cas were top of the tree.

Personally, I like Eddie's description, of cellar-dwellars 4 years on the trot. Enjoy this year, although the rest will gallop past you soon.

There is only one way in Sl because you don't have pr. But surely your fans deserve better than that mate. It's a bit poor if the argument is well were only so many points behind this team or that team,and they are crap as well.

I just fear for the game of RL.

No offense intende just a RL fan who is concerned for our game.

I sais to my mate before the game that without Danny Orr cas would really struggle , far too much pressure on Chase and far too predictable with next to no kicking game, someone asked in an earlier post how good a fullback was Donlan?, well for us at the giants he was more than capable , especially in the semi final win at odslum against leeds.

Youngquest had fingertips on the ball which now constitutes as downward pressure hence it being a try.
Huddersfield being offside, not marking square and using illegal tackling techniques were all penalties too, please learn the rules before complaining.

Cas have started poor but there not out of the race yet, it's not how u start it's how u finish as Leeds proved last year.

Wrong. Our record over 7 games shows otherwise. Less than 15 points conceded per game. Including games versus top 3 in the table last year. if that is a deficient defence give me more.

As a wakey fan there is little possibility for many clubs to gallop past you

At the Giants we have averaged a table finish of 4th over 3 years so we will see just how many people gallop past the Giants....unlikely to be wakey



Not surprised you like the cellar dwellers description. That said,I would gladly live with that description and go to recent Challenge Cup finals ( even losing them) with my club. As a wakey fan wanting success looking into the past rather than the future is a smart option.

I think getting Jacko, Huby, Orr and Griffin + having Basil working with the guys will make a significant difference to Cas.

haven't you got any dishes to wash luv!

What i want to know is what the hell has Jordan Thompson done to upset Basil?...all the players (especially McGoldrick)tried at centre have been pretty woeful but he doesn't get a look in.

Last night was dire...and very worrying given that the Giants never really got out of second gear.

To me the blame at the moment is right across the club...

Players...no pride in the performance, not professional enough in outlook and most of them are frankly pinching their wages.

Coach...said he would tighten up the defence...he hasn't.

The Board...Giving ludicrous long contracts to some players who clearly aren't or weren't ever worth it, meaning we can't strengthen the squad anywhere else.

I get the feeling that Millward has until May (Widnes at home /Challenge Cup rounds) if no wins after that the board will get shut of him

Worst player in Super League by a long way

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Exactly right. However, when there's NO fingers - nor arms nor hands - on the ball, it isn't a try.

Also unpenalised where countless cannonball & crusher tackles.

Every replay of Youngquest's try also showed his fingertips were touching the ball so again, try.

wakey poster with nothing to say about rugby...oh dear.

Cas have several key players to come back and now their head coach has returned. They will improve significantly...wakey under Agar, no chance

On that performance, that's a fair call. However he was actually outstanding when we played against Wigan - a shining light in a dire team performance. Never once shyed away from a high ball, some of which were much harder than the ones he fluffed on Friday. His inconsistency mystifies me, it really does.