Obviously ignored this one. We'll be complaining to the RFL about everything that is said at every game. Saints fans wont be able to shout forward. Leeds wont be able to sing Marching on Toghether etc etc.

=#8000FFBecause that isn't missing the point at all

and you spelt together wrong.

No complaints about every game....
Just wanting sense and equality all abuse to be encompassed by the RFL Respect policy for all clubs and the same ensuing penalties.
Keep shouting Forward, keep singing Marching on.

It isn't though, its the way things will be going. The smallest swear word that may cause offence to anyone and we'll be shot down and banned for life. As most clubs' fans sing about the ref masturbating or saying he is no good, each club will get fined and it'll get to the point where it turns people away from attending games.


So i did. I'm sorry sir.



I agree with equality but still, like i said before, the smallest of offence caused and there'll be a report filed and fine issued.

Sam, i'll answer you. But in future, please be patient, some people work for a living.



The reason people are bringing in other examples, such as ginger chanting, is because they are trying to highlight the fact, that under the RFLs respect policy, the one they quoted Cas breaching, every other set of fans are breaching this policy. I think you'll find that every Cas fan is realistic and wouldn't possibly suggest that every club should be fined for every tiny break of this policy from here on in. Chanting has always been a large part of British sport and clamping down on abusive chants doesn't just get solved by one £40k fine. If we want to sort out abusive chants it will take much longer. We can't remove everything from our terraces, but i agree there's no place for homophobic chants. But if you want Cas fans to be realistic about expecting the RFL to go easy on ginger chants, fat chants and the ref is a W chants, then we expect that the RFL and the RL community in general go easy on us when a bunch of chavvy teens and maybe a few neandathalic men chant a couple of homophobic songs. Had it been a terrace full of Cas fans singing, i'd be absolutley embarressed at our fans and club but since us lot were at the game and either witnessed it, or never even heard a whisper, we feel pretty hard done by.

The point though, is why did Cas get singled out on this instance? We also question the severity of the fine and we also feel that our club couldn't have done anymore at the time to stop the chants. It was a tiny number of fans (15-20 i dunno) in a section that had around 2k fans in. the chanting was for a very short period and even some of the fans close by couldn't spot who was singing it. If there was hbomophobic chanting at every home game and Cas sat on their bums and ignored it every week then fair enough. But this happened 3 times in one game and was drowned out the last two times by the PA system.

I work for a living. Just toss it off



I know why you're raising this point but still, its just silly that you're picking up such a chant like this. I find it childish and idiotic. Its a nothing chant and muchado about nothing. The severity of your fine has to be questioned but the sort of chanting you were guilty of was scandlous. I and my lesbian sister find it offensive to fact that complete strangers are questioning someone's sexuality. I just think there is a huge difference between the two.

Leeds won't get fined, Garys fingering the RFL after all. We are untouchable

All of this just highlights the fact of what a namby pamby, softy nicey nation of wasters we have become!
What ever happened to the Bulldog spirit of taking knocks and bouncing back all the stronger for it.
The future of Britain has been ruined by politically correct fascists!

2@ - what we don't need is trolls from Hull coming on here for their saloon bar stereotype rants.

t1t-Who's from Hull? Loser.

THIS IS A FACT

Accessing this site via three ip addresses, all of which belong to Kingston Communications. From Doncaster?




No. It's an opinion. And a pretty crap one at that.

Tbf, i thought he got it spot on.

I rest my case

Thats like saying he's a three foot very tall man!

What would you call the PC Brigade then?

A term invented by the right-wing media to disguise the fact that some people were opposed to homophobic/racist/sexist/gingerist language or behaviour.

By right wing media do you mean normal, tax paying members of the general public?

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctnessNo, a bit of light reading for you[/url

Particularly, this bit:-



..and this:-



HTH

I would not read a newspaper as left wing as the Daily Mail.
Marxism and Multinational Big Business are equally responsible for the downfall of general standards in society and the collapse of civilisation as the final outcome.

Whatever dude, good luck with the medication and therapy

OMG 15 people rant at a rugby match now were all DOOMED i tell thee were DOOMED

They're all coming out today, aren't they?

The most factually incorrect post ever. I too cannot recall any chants with that. In fact, the only one I think directed at the referee was by the Hudds fans under the gantry singing "you don't know what you're doing."

Another thing to take into account here is that Leeds and St Helens are a club with a strong rivalry over the past few years, and Graham is a player with a history of antagonising Leeds fans with his actions on the field. Their abuse of him was a result of this, and I'm sure wouldn't have come had it been a generic player like Chris Riley, who was used as an example earlier in the thread. In Gareth Thomas' case, he clearly had no history with Cas and the majority of fans had probably never even seen him play before, since it was only his second game of RL and AFAIK the abuse occurred during the warm up, so it's clearly a totally different context to the chants of the Leeds fans.