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| Quote ="Fully"I never saw any hype about Rangi playing for England; only a lot of whinging from =#FF0080'polecat' fans.'"
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| He's a New Zealander playing for England, does he even have a British passport. Anyway on a side note he was terrible as was Yeaman and wait for it.... Westwood, see what i did there, not have a compulsion to blindly defend a player from my own club in case any of you missed it.
Even if i didn't have my opinions on the rights and wrongs of his selection [Chase i still think he was distinctly average yesterday in fact so much so i'd go with a Widdop McGuire combo v the Kiwis.
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| Did you miss the first 20 minutes then? Chase, Tomkins & Roby were killing the Aussies..then when the forwards got injured it went to pot, Chase was having to play both half back positions because Sinfield was invisible, apart from the penalties and a missed tackle Westwood wasn't too bad, Yeaman however is totally out of his depth and looked lost.
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| Quote ="neverdid"Like the unwashed know anything about rugby league , i mean 'go korki' says it all really pmsl'"
As I said before, neverdid probably neverwill - say anything that actually contributes to a discussion, that is (hopefully never have offspring either). You can call me unwashed as much as you like if it makes you feel big - however I know that its just feeble name-calling by a thoughtless little nobody who may not be unwashed, but is certainly unhinged. Why the mods let you carry on I don't know!
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| Quote ="wakeyrule"As I said before, neverdid probably neverwill - say anything that actually contributes to a discussion, that is (hopefully never have offspring either). You can call me unwashed as much as you like if it makes you feel big - however I know that its just feeble name-calling by a thoughtless little nobody who may not be unwashed, but is certainly unhinged. Why the mods let you carry on I don't know!'"
Its called "care in the community"
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| Quote ="neverdid"edited for accuracy'"
No, my original statement was correct. Ergo, rugby league fans.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Did you miss the first 20 minutes then? Chase, Tomkins & Roby were killing the Aussies..then when the forwards got injured it went to pot, Chase was having to play both half back positions because Sinfield was invisible, apart from the penalties and a missed tackle Westwood wasn't too bad, Yeaman however is totally out of his depth and looked lost.'"
Gronk - your opinion isn't worth !
Chase proved once and for all he is a one-man-band. He did nothing for team at all - in fact his brain-farts gifted the win to Australia.
Poor? He wasn't even that good!
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| Quote ="Georgie Best on a Bloomer"Ladies and gentlemen, may I present a lesson in the noble art of how to contradict yourself in the same sentence. The residency rules allow him to be picked. End of. It doesn't matter what you, I or anyone else thinks. What's the point of bleating about it?'"
How is it contradicting myself, im just saying that even tho the rules are there i still dont think he should play for england.
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| Quote ="dboy"Gronk - your opinion isn't worth poop!
Chase proved once and for all he is a one-man-band. He did nothing for team at all - in fact his brain-farts gifted the win to Australia.
Poor? He wasn't even that good!'"
6 assists in 2 games is some good playing for yourself aint it
Come on, if you're going to have a go at me for my "opinion" which in fact, was a fact you should at least watch the games first.
As for gifting the Aussies the win, what about:
Westwood conceding 4 penalties and missing 2 tackles which directly resulted in tries
Heighington getting run over by Williams like he wasn't even there
Sinfield not looking at the play resulting in 3 knock ons from offloads
Yeaman being out of position, leading to another Aussie try and generally looking lost all game
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| I thought he did OK against Wales, but yesterday he did NOTHING.
Westwood wouldn't have been defending those plays if Chase hadn't made 2 ridiculous, selfish plays, in kicking for touch when we had a full set of 6, and ripping the ball.
Chase turned into a liability yesterday - pointing out other players deficiences doesn't change that, especially when those other players were forced into thos errors by Chase's selfishness and stupidity.
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| Quote ="dboy"I thought he did OK against Wales, but yesterday he did NOTHING.
Westwood wouldn't have been defending those plays if Chase hadn't made 2 ridiculous, selfish plays, in kicking for touch when we had a full set of 6, and ripping the ball.
Chase turned into a liability yesterday - pointing out other players deficiences doesn't change that, especially when those other players were forced into thos errors by Chase's selfishness and stupidity.'"
Yeah that's a load of rubbish and you're showing yourself up. He did nothing yesterday and was being selfish he got 3 assists, made countless clean breaks in the opening 20 minutes and had a pass or 2 that lead to an assist, if you weren't so biased as to not just solely point out his poor moments you'd see this but because you're a Wakey fan you can't praise anything remotely linked to Cas and the ball steal was a loose carry (Chase clamped the ball to stop the offload) and the kick in to touch was a brilliant idea poorly executed.
And are you trying to say Westwood being brain dead and conceding 4 needless penalties is Chase's fault? Because that's what you put and that is beyond ridiculous.
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| Gronk even if he did make 3 assists, he also cost us points/lost territory with his brainfarts, time to drop him and stick Widdop and McGuire in the team.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Gronk even if he did make 3 assists, he also cost us points/lost territory with his brainfarts, time to drop him and stick Widdop and McGuire in the team.'"
Right, so 3 Aussie tries came down to 1 player...not the whole team missing tackles, right?
Yeah we get it, you don't like him playing because he isn't "English" but the witch hunt on here and by Eddie & Stevo is embarrassing and making the whole game look close minded and pathetic, instead of embracing someone willing to represent the country every mistake gets blown out of proportion and he's made a scapegoat.
Another question for you...what has McGuire EVER done at international level? He isn't as good as Chase so if you want him in because he's "English"...congratulations on being a bigot.
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| I'm not saying it's just Chase, but he is one of the problems, god you Cas lot really can't see beyond the Amber can you?
He's selfish, one dimensional and for the love of god i don't know how he got Man of Steel.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"I'm not saying it's just Chase, but he is one of the problems, god you Cas lot really can't see beyond the Amber can you?
He's selfish, one dimensional and for the love of god i don't know how he got Man of Steel.'"
Go on, explain how he's selfish if he has 6 assists and 2 passes leading to assists in 2 games if he was selfish?
He got the man of steel because he's the best player in the league - and in the first 20 minutes you saw why he is too, Chase along with Tomkins & Roby were killing the Aussies early on.
He's far from the worst performer so far for England so if you want to complain why not complain about the others who have been worse? Sinfield, Yeaman, Briscoe, Wilkin & Westwood have all been poor so far but why aren't you talking about them? You're a bigot and it's clear to see.
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| I'm a bigot yet my wife isn't English, nice one.
Surprised you didn't quote all the assists from the SL site.
He's a halfback you'd expect him to be involved, if he throws the last pass before a try doesn't mean he was the one who 'made' the try.
If you think that 20 minutes out of 80 is good enough then i bet you're happy with you're league position, after all you started off well then faded.
Give me a choice of Tomkins or Chase and it's Tomkins every time, i have in previous posts mentioned Westwood and Yeaman but seeing as this is a Rangi thread work out why i'm singling him out.
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| I actually think Gronk has made a valid point. You're all so obsessed on 'Rangi-watch' you're too oblivious to the dross being served up by other members of the squad.
Indeed, he made errors but you would expect any half to make some errors at some point. It seems like that any error made by Rangi is dropped on like a ton of bricks; had someone English, i.e. Sinfield done exactly the same I bet the swathes of criticism wouldn't half be as bad.
I, personally, am getting sick of this. It really is tiresome.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"I'm not saying it's just Chase, but he is one of the problems, god you Cas lot really can't see beyond the Amber can you?
He's selfish, one dimensional and for the love of god i don't know how he got Man of Steel.'"
No, I'm not biased. But equally I'm not letting the fact he's from New Zealand taint my judgement by pretending that there's a whole host of English quality halves out there that's he's preventing playing. Fact is, he's a very talented player, justifiably chosen by his PEERS to win Man of Steel because he's such an instrumental, exciting player.
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| Quote ="Fully"I actually think Gronk has made a valid point. You're all so obsessed on 'Rangi-watch' you're too oblivious to the dross being served up by other members of the squad.'"
Fully - look at the title of the thread; now think again about why people are 'singling him out.'
For the hard of thinking, here's a clue - it's a thread about Rangi Chase.
FWIW, I also thought Westwood, Yeaman and Sinfield were distinctly average and for good measure, McBanana wants his head testing for leaving the form prop of SL without even a spot on the bench.
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| Quote ="bren2k"For the hard of thinking, here's a clue - it's a thread about Rangi Chase.
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No, the thread is about CONGRATULATING Rangi Chase, the negative thread about him got closed because of idiots like you and neverdid.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Fully - look at the title of the thread; now think again about why people are 'singling him out.'
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Correct: it reads "Well done Rangi Chase". That perhaps indicates that it was a thread for Castleford fans, on a Castleford forum to congratulate Rangi.
Not for all and sundy to derail a thread by slating him, try and justify their arguments as to why Chase shouldn't be selected. I believe there are your own respective forums, the VT or the International forum for that.
As for singling him out, this thread is an irrelevance in the grand scheme of things. If this thread wasn't here, you'd all still be singling him out whilst ignoring the contributions of others even if you do try and balance it up by writing three paras on how Chase was poor then throwing in a sentence with "FWIW, so-and-so was poor too." The day you start a thread stating that XYZ was poor, this might make it more believable.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"No, the thread is about CONGRATULATING Rangi Chase, the negative thread about him got closed because of idiots like you and neverdid.'"
A few Cas fans repeating an increasingly desperate 'well done' message doesn't take away from the fact that many people are baffled by his England selection and disappointed with his performances.
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| Quote ="bren2k"A few Cas fans repeating an increasingly desperate 'well done' message doesn't take away from the fact that many people are baffled by his England selection and disappointed with his performances.'"
Which isn't the point of this thread, is it? Like Fully said, make a thread about it on your own board, this is a thread congratulating the current Man of Steel and England's best halfback.
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| Quote ="bren2k"A few Cas fans repeating an increasingly desperate 'well done' message doesn't take away from the fact that many people are baffled by his England selection and disappointed with his performances.'"
Yes, and there are separate forums and threads for you to discuss those things. This is a Cas forum and this thread is congratulating Rangi.
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| And in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king...
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