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| As a neutral I am gutted that his amazing talents won't be on display on the biggest stage on the biggest night of the year.
He's going to have a lifetime of regret in a few years time. What a pickle he has left Cas' in; I wonder if McDermott is having a wry smile now ?
Having said that I hope someone's exercising some sort of duty of care for the lad.
When he comes to his senses he'll be distraught.
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| Quote ="woolly07"I can't believe what I am reading. How many of us would give just about anything to be in his shoes this week and he does whatever he has done.
Can anyone think of another player who is as thick, stupid or whatever as he appears to be?'"
Gareth Hock. Rangi Chase. John Hopoate. Sean Long.
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| Quote ="Ashton Bears"Don't think that Tomkins will be selected for England but it does show that there is some people still very jealous of a certain player.'"
No Jealousy whatsoever,just a fact that he isn’t the player he once was,and there are better options than Sam,whether Wigan fans agree or not..
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"No Jealousy whatsoever,just a fact that he isn’t the player he once was,and there are better options than Sam,whether Wigan fans agree or not..'"
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| Quote ="Ashton Bears"Don't think that Tomkins will be selected for England but it does show that there is some people still very jealous of a certain player.'" he doesn't deserve to included into the England team, even Grix showed up in the last game to be a has been
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| Quote ="Geoff":tbkn2ozmGareth Hock. Rangi Chase. John Hopoate. Sean Long.'" I forgot about his episode with GB. Can't remember what happened there, but I still don't think you could say he wasted his career like the above.
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| Quote ="jonnythesaint"Sean Long? Really?
I know the betting incident wasn't great, but he doesn't deserve to be mentioned in that company. Other than that I can't remember him getting in any bother at all.
[edit I forgot about his episode with GB. Can't remember what happened there, but I still don't think you could say he wasted his career like the above.'"
Didn't he once get sent back from a GB Aus tour.
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| Quote ="rugbyreddog"Didn't he once get sent back from a GB Aus tour.'"
He walked IIRC.
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| And the drugs thing at hull too long has made some stupid desision but seems to get taken on irrespective of what he has done but he has achieved things that may persuade people to take the risk, clubs have taken that risk with Zak and been burnt it's hard to see where he will end up next but on the right terms with limited expectations he could be worth a punt for say newly promoted hull kr or possibly Toronto
It's frustrating as it seemed he was back up his best and had turned a corner or started to at least ! Don't know what it is but it must be serious for cas to drop him for a game like this...hope it doesn't change the outcome of the game on the occasion I have watched cas under piwell he seems to be able to switch things around well when needed so good luck against Leeds !!
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| Quote ="rugbyreddog"Didn't he once get sent back from a GB Aus tour.'"
No he wasn't sent back,he left without telling anyone.
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| Quote ="Geoff"Gareth Hock. Rangi Chase. John Hopoate. Sean Long.'"
Going back a bit further, I'd add Tim Street to the list, I remember him dominating the Wigan pack in the 1986 Colts final looking as if he had all the tools to be potentially one of the great forward of his generation and then threw it all away.
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| Quote ="jonnythesaint"Sean Long? Really?
I know the betting incident wasn't great, but he doesn't deserve to be mentioned in that company. Other than that I can't remember him getting in any bother at all.
[edit I forgot about his episode with GB. Can't remember what happened there, but I still don't think you could say he wasted his career like the above.'"
What about him breaking a 16 year old girls jaw in Standish?
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| Quote ="Wanderer"He walked IIRC.'"
Officially.
Anyway back to Zak. Is there anyway back for him following the GF result. Surely his omission must have caused a lot of disruption to the preparations.
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| Quote ="rugbyreddog"Officially.
Anyway back to Zak. Is there anyway back for him following the GF result. Surely his omission must have caused a lot of disruption to the preparations.'"
[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/41542423He owes you guys an apology![/url
Given a second chance, thrown it back in your face, wonder where he'll go from here, no future at Cas, surely?
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| Failed drugs test - cocaine. Potential 2 year ban.
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| Sad that this is what our season has boiled down to.
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| Hopefully Cas stick with him like Wigan did with Hock. Help him sort his off the field issues & see what kind of player you have in 2020 when he returns.
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| Quote ="CM Punk"Hopefully Cas stick with him like Wigan did with Hock. Help him sort his off the field issues & see what kind of player you have in 2020 when he returns.'"
Like Leeds stuck by him, he does not deserve another chance anywhere. He will never learn because he is a brainless moron
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| £150,000.................. did Cas buy him using a credit card?
is there a returns policy for damaged goods?
did we get a 12 months warrenty?
was he bought over the internet perhaps, do the distant selling rights apply?
A rebate even?
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| What a plonker.
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| Quote ="CM Punk"Hopefully Cas stick with him like Wigan did with Hock. Help him sort his off the field issues & see what kind of player you have in 2020 when he returns.'"
Dear me that's a poor analogy. What exactly did Wigan get back? The same tool they had before. Do you really think Hardaker will improve! It's not the first time, you do know that don't you?
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| Quote ="mrpurfect"£150,000.................. did Cas buy him using a credit card?
is there a returns policy for damaged goods?
did we get a 12 months warrenty?
was he bought over the internet perhaps, do the distant selling rights apply?
A rebate even?'"
Cas got him cut price at 150,000 because he was damaged goods in normal cercumstances the sleeve would never have sold him for less than 350,000.
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| Quote ="CM Punk"Hopefully Cas stick with him like Wigan did with Hock. Help him sort his off the field issues & see what kind of player you have in 2020 when he returns.'"
I suspect many at the club already were aware- remember the photo earlier in the season doing the rounds.
I hope cas and the rest of rugby league hang him out to dry. Like they should have done with Hock.
And please don't give me that bleeding heart shiv about mental health- he's had more support than most people get and he's still acted like s complete dhead.
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| Defo mental about his health
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