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| Quote ="deeHell"I agree Parker is a bit of a dart thrower with his predictions but he did call it right when you couldn't afford to keep Shenton and Westerman. History repeating itself again
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Couldn't afford to keep them? Jesus christ you are an idiot
Shenton was OUT OF CONTRACT and wanted 130k a year, Wigan told him where to go making demands like that, as did Cas - do you think he's worth that kind of money?
Westerman had a year left on his contract and stated his desire to leave, so Cas sold him for 150 grand instead of letting him go a year later for free, brilliant business.
But lets not let facts get in the way of your trolling, back to the ignore list you go
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Couldn't afford to keep them? Jesus christ you are an idiot
Shenton was OUT OF CONTRACT and wanted 130k a year, Wigan told him where to go making demands like that, as did Cas - do you think he's worth that kind of money?
Westerman had a year left on his contract and stated his desire to leave, so Cas sold him for 150 grand instead of letting him go a year later for free, brilliant business.
But lets not let facts get in the way of your trolling, back to the ignore list you go
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Some grossly inflated figures there I think. I'm sure the club would have you think that. At the end of the day they can't say we need to sell our best players because we can't compete in the market place. The off season should be interesting I wonder what the excuse will be for selling Rangi
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| Quote ="deeHell"I can see you guys having some trouble competing in the market place in the off season. It seems your planned raid on the Wakey academy has well and truly gone Pete Tong after Tuesday’s events. Funny how things turn out isn't it? If we had off gone down you would of well and truly been the top dogs round here, looks like it's not to be.'"
i think castleford will be very happy with the youngsters coming through the system has will wakefield,ive always said there is plenty to go round both clubs,from what i was told the only wakefield players cas were interested in were mariano and paul johnson with the other been kieran hyde although my wakey pals tell me they would pay for the taxi if it meant hyde came to cas but heyho,like others have said whats this to do with a possible court case against chase i dont know.
i understand your pleased to have got a new franchise but the all conquering wildcats team asnt quite taken shape just yet and isnt likely to anytime soon.
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| Think deeHell is holidaying on shutter island. Never seen such deluded conspiracy theories.
Anyway I will give you one thing - I am quaking in my boots at the spending power of Glover.
I mean, after the way he's been throwing the cash around bringing players in this year to ensure you get a good league position and keep your SL licence... that's only the tip of the iceberg, eh?
I know there were no players available to sign, but all those massive transfer fees he paid to buy players out of their contracts with other clubs? Impressive.
I wish we had such financial might. We truly are in trouble for next year.
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| Quote ="braytontiger"i think castleford will be very happy with the youngsters coming through the system has will wakefield,ive always said there is plenty to go round both clubs,from what i was told the only wakefield players cas were interested in were mariano and paul johnson with the other been kieran hyde although my wakey pals tell me they would pay for the taxi if it meant hyde came to cas but heyho,like others have said whats this to do with a possible court case against chase i dont know.'"
I'm told you where after a lot more than them 3. For the produce and sell policy to work you have to keep the conveyor belt going. Trust me it's been done at Wakey for years.
Quote ="braytontiger"i understand your pleased to have got a new franchise but the all conquering wildcats team asnt quite taken shape just yet and isnt likely to anytime soon.
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Maybe we are on the crest of a new dynesty?
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| Quote ="TypingMonkey"Think deeHell is holidaying on shutter island. Never seen such deluded conspiracy theories.
Anyway I will give you one thing - I am quaking in my boots at the spending power of Glover.
I mean, after the way he's been throwing the cash around bringing players in this year to ensure you get a good league position and keep your SL licence... that's only the tip of the iceberg, eh?
I know there were no players available to sign, but all those massive transfer fees he paid to buy players out of their contracts with other clubs? Impressive.
I wish we had such financial might. We truly are in trouble for next year.'"
Don't fear too much Monkey the chunky transfer fee you'll get from Rangis sale should give you a bit off thump in the market place.
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| Quote ="deeHell"Don't fear too much Monkey the chunky transfer fee you'll get from Rangis sale should give you a bit off thump in the market place.'"
Shame he signed that nice new contract to ruin your trolling isn't it?
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| Quote ="deeHell"I'm told you where after a lot more than them 3. For the produce and sell policy to work you have to keep the conveyor belt going. Trust me it's been done at Wakey for years.
Maybe we are on the crest of a new dynesty?
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cant see wakey been able to tempt many of the quality cas youngsters coming through,cas have shown i9n recent years that it pays to bring through local lads and that policy will continue,has for the conveyer belt well maybe if it would have been oiled a little better than players such has adam milner,nathen massey and oliver holmes would be playing for their home town teams but the facts are they were badly let down on scholorships they went elsewhere.
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| Anybody notice DeeHell vanished from the Cas board between the administration and franchise decision? wonder why that is...
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| This whole Glover Wakey thing is pointless, the salary cap and percentage of turnover governs the amount a club can spend on players, there is a sliding scale for exactly that reason. So, the wealth of any benefactor is mediated through those mechanisms. If Wakey can improve their position and compete better in the league - brilliant, well done them - matters little to most readers of this board.
The rest of the thread, interesting indeed, but thats about it; speculation about court cases etc is tricky - there are lots of court cases where people COULD be called to appear, but largely depending how people plan to plead and the legal implications they are rarely forced to do so.
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| Quote ="mdean"This whole Glover Wakey thing is pointless, the salary cap and percentage of turnover governs the amount a club can spend on players, there is a sliding scale for exactly that reason. So, the wealth of any benefactor is mediated through those mechanisms. If Wakey can improve their position and compete better in the league - brilliant, well done them - matters little to most readers of this board.
The rest of the thread, interesting indeed, but thats about it; speculation about court cases etc is tricky - there are lots of court cases where people COULD be called to appear, but largely depending how people plan to plead and the legal implications they are rarely forced to do so.'"
Exactly...lets see if the citizens of Wakefield come through the gates in enough numbers to start their new "Dynasty".
Good luck to them though...even if it tough listening to a smug git attempting to derail yet another thread.
As for Rangi,well i guess the club will know the full details, but won't say anything in case it affects the ticket sales for the semi final.
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| Maybe Terry Matterson started the rumour and is just playing mind games with leeds
The club should make a statement to put this to bed as their silence is worrying me!
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| Quote ="deeHell"I agree Parker is a bit of a dart thrower with his predictions but he did call it right when you couldn't afford to keep Shenton and Westerman. History repeating itself again
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Except we offered both Shenton and Westerman new deals. Never mind, consistent as usual deeHell. Nice to see you back on the Cas forum, though.
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| Can we please get back to the original post, its a lot important than talking about them reprobates from up the road and giving that dillusional character summat to feed on. So have we anymore info on Rangi, as he got a court case and will he be back if he does have one.
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| Other than the Sun, I can't see this report any where else.
It does not mean it is untrue though. Wording is all important in the press, it does not say he may have to go back, it says he must. It's hardly liable if this is wrong though. Just incorrect reporting. What would be liablous would be if there was no case at all.
Who knows what will happen, the lawyers may adjuorn, it could be a Tuesday appearance in which case, flight over on Sunday night, sleep appear, back on tuesday night sleep wed and thurs, train friday, pre match saturday and sunday well he maybe back to normal.
The closer to Friday the court date, the more concerning this story will be.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Other than the Sun, I can't see this report any where else.
It does not mean it is untrue though. Wording is all important in the press, it does not say he may have to go back, it says he must. It's hardly liable if this is wrong though. Just incorrect reporting. What would be liablous would be if there was no case at all.
Who knows what will happen, the lawyers may adjuorn, it could be a Tuesday appearance in which case, flight over on Sunday night, sleep appear, back on tuesday night sleep wed and thurs, train friday, pre match saturday and sunday well he maybe back to normal.
The closer to Friday the court date, the more concerning this story will be.'"
That's what worries me, if there is a court case and it is at the end of the week. We need to have a fully fit Rangi Chase firing on all cylinders next Sunday.
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| There is no way to tell until it happens though, if it was an early week appearance I imagine the Tigers would want him out there and rested already.
I suppose in the end if he don't turn up what are they going to do? Start extradition proceedings?
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| Does Sydney not have lists of court hearings?
I've not seen any evidence to support The Sun's article yet other than forum postings. So at the moment, in my belief, I'm in the 'I'll believe it when I see it/hear it' camp
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| Can't see it on Google, but then they may not publish them. Or only publish high profile ones.
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| Shenton accepted less money at St Helens than Cas offered him to stay - decided to go to a side that were competing to win trophies and had a brand spanking new stadium on the horizon. As a Saints player no-one bats an eyelid if he's selected for the national side whereas whilst at Cas he knew he'd have to prove himself that extra bit more to get selected.
Whilstever we continue to play out of the dilapidated old ground we'll never generate the income to compete at the top table, which is the REAL reason why we need to get the new ground built and not simply to 'tick a box' for the purpose of the franchises. The same applies to Wakefield....
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| Quote ="Cecil B" As a Saints player no-one bats an eyelid if he's selected for the national side
And Imo thats where the problem with our national side lies.
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| Quote ="deeHell"Some grossly inflated figures there I think. I'm sure the club would have you think that. At the end of the day they can't say we need to sell our best players because we can't compete in the market place. The off season should be interesting I wonder what the excuse will be for selling Rangi
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In recent memory we have sold 1 player- westerman can even remember the last player cas sold before him.
You have sold-ferguson, pitts, atkins, brough, millard, obst, ellis, solomona
any i have missed?
so which is the selling club in the district?
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| Quote ="pyeman"In recent memory we have sold 1 player- westerman can even remember the last player cas sold before him.
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Although we didn't technically sell him, Michael Platt went for a fee to Bradford if I remember rightly. Didn't we insert a clause in his contract?
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| Apart from Dee Hell's normal psspoor trolling, this whole thread is based on an article in the Sun, sister paper of the News of the World, wtf?
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| Quote ="Fully"Although we didn't technically sell him, Michael Platt went for a fee to Bradford if I remember rightly. Didn't we insert a clause in his contract?'"
Something to do with him being under a certain age meant that we could get a transfer fee. It was only about £10k though wasn't it?
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