Like he does for England? You tend to find his impact drops off when he's put into the teams system rather than a team built around him and I can't see Noble letting him have as much free reign as he did at Cas.

Chase will be the main man at the Devils don't worry about that, and when your team sets up their whole game around one/two men which Salford will then you'll realise how much freedom Chase and Smith will have, England on the other hand play the Leeds Rhinos way of hot potato rugby using the outside backs to do the creating and scoring, you could say the same for Huddersfield, nobles teams on the other hand play very different for one their halfback dependant and use the big guns to finish off the hard work abit like Deacon and Robbie Paul used to do for the Bulls, and believe it or not noble laid down the platform at Wigan, he just wasn't given the time.

Johnny lomax was injured for large parts of the season, along with roby, and we sure did look average at times.

I understand why a few people have question marks over Salford (and I understand why all Salford fans seem confused as to why) - but I don't think they have enough quality, even with the buys firing to break the top 5/6.

As for cas, I really like the cas mentality, and as a club I have a lot of respect for what your trying to do, unfortunately that doesn't always translate to quality on the pitch - so I'd say 9th - 10th, but I'd really like it if you snuck into the 8

At the end of the day nobody knows anything until next year, we can all be experts in our own mind but until the season kicks off nobody know nowt.

I think it'll be a close season, but hopefully we'll just edge a thriller.

never seen the point of prediction threads as nobody ever brings them up at seasons end.
Although i think we will probably finish 9th anything less than a play off spot should be seen as a fail. But then it's a relegation year so.....

So on this thread you say that "anything less than a playoff spot should be seen as a fail", yet in the squad numbers thread you imply we should just about manage to keep out the bottom two.

Just make your mind up for once!

you lying barsteward , I haven't mentioned finishing position in other thread at all.

We need to be in at least 9th or 10th come August. We don't want to be sweating into the last 6 games of the season. A top 12 finish this season will do for me - mission accomplished.

Don't count out the Bulls chaps. We are currently in the do do again but if that is sorted in the next few days (new sponsors announced next week) we have a better team than last year. Bulls fans will be happy finishing 3rd from bottom but we might just surprise a few. Anyway, looking forward to you all coming to Odsal. Don't forget to spend lots of money when you do.

Cheers - see you at Odsal.

We have lost Chase but we won a few games last year when he was suspended so the players need to remember they can step up, couple that with a full pre season with a coach who is capable of wringing every last bit of talent out of supposedly average players.

I'm going for 9th.

i think overall cas are better off with out chase you depended on him far to much, once the players start playing together rather than individuals and with the better pack and a good coach you will have a good year.

don't think it was a case of players playing as individuals more like players being made to play out of position under Millward and a lack of commitment in defence.

sorry i meant relying on individuals rather than playing as individuals. some strong coaching with tough discipline and cas will be a lot better next season. I am actually interested in seeing how clarke goes behind lynch and huby hopefully all 3 can stay fit as i think super league 2014 will be the best yet.

yeah Clark and Milner are special young lads, when Huby is playing well those two gave Chase a load of space 2/3 plays in. He was great for us but if we get a roll on we've a decent back line to exploit teams (when fit) cause nobody can tackle Webster and Carney 1v1

Carney looked good at centre against York - I wonder if DP was just experimenting with that or will he be at his usual wing place ?

it might certainly be an option. But I ike Channing as 3rd centre for Webster, though Owen deserves a place on his friendly form....

Maybe

Owen Carney Shenton Dixon

then

Carney Webster Shenton Dixon

Channing, Owen, Gibson and Reynolds as replacements. Great depth

And do not forget James Clare.

oh aye!

who will kick if they both play..Ellis or Sneyd ?

Sneyd - nailed on.

cheers

Kirk Dixon.

i was afraid of this