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| It never amazes me the clubs with the most fickle fans do the most moaning, Basil has brought a club structure that will serve your club well over the foreseeable future. Back him instead of throwing knives at him, the jungle your acting like animals
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| Quote ="THE EXPERT"It never amazes me the clubs with the most fickle fans do the most moaning, Basil has brought a club structure that will serve your club well over the foreseeable future. Back him instead of throwing knives at him, the jungle your acting like animals'"
Get rid of our BOD and bring in proper business minded people.
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| Quote ="THE EXPERT"It never amazes me the clubs with the most fickle fans do the most moaning, Basil has brought a club structure that will serve your club well over the foreseeable future. Back him instead of throwing knives at him, the jungle your acting like animals'"
With all due respect, your not paying hundreds of pounds to watch the absolute $h1te he's serving up. Our bod are far from perfect (obviously) but the squad Millward has is not 14th best in SL.
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| Quote ="Fumper27"When did we beat London with Millward in charge?'"
I have already apologised for that , it should have been leeds not London.
Whats the deal, we are still absolute garbage. You sound like Millwards brother or friend.
He is not fir for the job, talks a bloody good, talk, but no walk.
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| Quote ="THE EXPERT"It never amazes me the clubs with the most fickle fans do the most moaning, Basil has brought a club structure that will serve your club well over the foreseeable future. Back him instead of throwing knives at him, the jungle your acting like animals'"
1. I would have thought it entirely predictable that fickle fans would do the most moaning.
2. If the results/performances under IM continue to be so bad we wont have a future to foresee
3. We're not talking about bagging a coach weeks into the job.......he's been here 18 months and I cant think of a single facet of our game he's improved
4. We dont play at the Jungle (or, it could be argued, anywhere else) these days
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"Get rid of our BOD and bring in proper business minded people.'"
That is the only way will will get out of this mess. Unfortunately that won't happen though. This BOD will sell up and we won't have a ground and we won't have a club to follow. They a running us down now.
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| good to see millward signing salfords players back ryan boyle gone back to you how desperate are you for a lumbering prop forward who cant make our starting line up
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| Quote ="smoking monkey"1. I would have thought it entirely predictable that fickle fans would do the most moaning.
2. If the results/performances under IM continue to be so bad we wont have a future to foresee
3. We're not talking about bagging a coach weeks into the job.......he's been here 18 months and I cant think of a single facet of our game he's improved
4. We dont play at the Jungle (or, it could be argued, anywhere else) these days'"
dont try to get away from your history mate its what makes you the great club you are, and for improvement, your not far off, when it all clicks together thats when you should judge him,
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| Quote ="mctiques headband"good to see millward signing salfords players back ryan boyle gone back to you how desperate are you for a lumbering prop forward who cant make our starting line up'"
You do know you've got Jake Emmett in return don't you ?
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| Quote ="Cas Till I Die"With all due respect, your not paying hundreds of pounds to watch the absolute $h1te he's serving up. Our bod are far from perfect (obviously) but the squad Millward has is not 14th best in SL.'"
Yes it is both in reality and in potential - that's the problem you have, fans like you think you're better than you are. In reality you're down and dirty with all the rest of the bottom feeders and have been for years (you just didn't realise).
I consider Wakefield to be the crème de la crème of the bottom feeders at present but all things are relative and I know what our place is for now - get over yourself.
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| Vasty I appreciate your bias but consider this fairly...
Is rangi chase the 14th best starting stand off in super league?
Is darryl clarke the 14th best hooker in super league?
Are Shenton and Webster the 14th best centre pairing in super league?
I could go on but you catch my drift...
I don't think CTID was saying we are a top club, simply that our squad isn't the worst.
Ok, we might be 12th maybe even 13th, but no way should that squad be the whipping boys that they currently are.
To say "wakefield are the creme-de-la-creme of e" sounds a little bit pathetic. There is no grandeur in being the best of the poor teams.
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| Quote ="vastman"Yes it is both in reality and in potential - that's the problem you have, fans like you think you're better than you are. In reality you're down and dirty with all the rest of the bottom feeders and have been for years (you just didn't realise).
I consider Wakefield to be the crème de la crème of the bottom feeders at present but all things are relative and I know what our place is for now - get over yourself.'"
Last week didn't you say I was 'a plank' for daring to say you weren't a great side ??? This week your calling yourself bottom feeders ??? Wtf Vasty ??? You been on some hard drugs lad ???
I'm sorry but the team/squad is not 14th best on paper... With a half competent coach our squad is as good as the Wakefield one as well as a few others.
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| ^^^^ you'll have ruffled feathers there lad.
With a sensational squad like Wakefields???
The self confessed "creme-de-la-crap"???
The best rubbish team in the country???
How dare you sir. How DARE you.
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| With Clark and Chase in your squad you should be higher, but you have an incompetent half back in Jamie Ellis, a hot head in Justin Carney, injury prone Jake Webster, and the likes of Richard Owen and Craig Huby who haven't seemed to be pulling their weight this season. You may not be the worst team in terms of ability, but I think when it comes to attitude you are close to it.
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| yep, I can go with that.
Attitude sometimes stinks. In fact some games, I wish they'd tell me whether they're gonna try or not before I pay my money to watch
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| Well i enjoyed the walk to the ground today in the sunshine, and i bet the cheerleaders were pleased to be dancing in warmer weather for a change.
If you could edit our first and last 10 minutes of the game into a package we would look a good side, pity about the hour in between. Again Millward gives us a selection masterclass with a centre/wing combination of Gilmour and Thompson (2 second rowers usually)...and Huddersfield exploited it fully aided by Rangi's stupid sin binning.
Multiple failings all over the field as well..basic stuff that a half decent coach would correct i feel.
I am struggling to remember the last time the crowd was so sparce and the feeling of inevitable defeat, if the board think the coach can still somehow turn this around then they are more deluded than i thought. I am fed up hearing we can't afford to get shut of Millward, seriously how much money will the club have lost today and next home game if he stays?
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| The call for Millward's head that constantly comes from Cas 'fans' is ridiculous.
Have you seen his CV? As much as I hate St Helens, he lifted trophy after trophy while at Saints.
Are you likely to attract a coach with so much silverware won? No.
Get behind him.
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| Quote ="ImTopWolf"The call for Millward's head that constantly comes from Cas 'fans' is ridiculous.
Have you seen his CV? As much as I hate St Helens, he lifted trophy after trophy while at Saints.
Are you likely to attract a coach with so much silverware won? No.
Get behind him.'"
And what a great job he did at Wigan too. Stevie Wonder could've coached that Saints team. What's Basils record, 7 wins in 39 games or something? AWFUL
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| Looking at the Cas squad, I was thinking today that your squad seemed pretty decent. You reminded me a little of us in 2006, when we had a decent squad but just didn't ever do anything right.
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| Think Jordan Thompson is a really good player, just played out of position today, wasted on the wing and made to look bad. Daryl Clark is a right player. Didn't know Jamie Ellis was playing until Chase got sin binned. Tansey has proved to be a good signing. Just lacking a bit of confidence. Sneak a win at Hull KR and the last couple or results could have been different.
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| Quote ="ImTopWolf"The call for Millward's head that constantly comes from Cas 'fans' is ridiculous.
Have you seen his CV? As much as I hate St Helens, he lifted trophy after trophy while at Saints.
Are you likely to attract a coach with so much silverware won? No.
Get behind him.'"
Anybody breathing could of coached them at that time!, the reason Millward had success at Saints is he had internationals all over the field and leaders in Cunningham,Joynt,Sculthorpe,Martyn and Long on the pitch dictating their plays. What did he do when he left?...Failed at North Queensland,failed at Wigan...and yet the fools who run our club awarded him with a THREE year deal
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| In Basils defence he oversaw a lot of change at Saints and produced a fantastic team when he was sacked. He also had to dip into the bargain basement and blood players like Wellens, Higham, Stankovich and the other back row lad I cant remember, signing players like West and Cruikshank to come under a cap dominated by the Cunninghams and Joynts and Newloves.
He had no chance at Wigan with Farrell, Wane and Radlinski behind the scenes, plus no money to spend and most of his squad in the stands. He failed badly in Aus and imo under achieved with us at Leigh when he came back.
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| Quote ="maurice"In Basils defence he oversaw a lot of change at Saints and produced a fantastic team when he was sacked. He also had to dip into the bargain basement and blood players like Wellens, Higham, Stankovich and the other back row lad I cant remember, signing players like West and Cruikshank to come under a cap dominated by the Cunninghams and Joynts and Newloves.
He had no chance at Wigan with Farrell, Wane and Radlinski behind the scenes, plus no money to spend and most of his squad in the stands. He failed badly in Aus and imo under achieved with us at Leigh when he came back.'"
While he may be blessed with the speed of a tranquilised slug there is no way Wellens should be described as a bargain basement make-do player. He has been a first team regular at Saints for at least a decade since coming through their systems.
Also he didn't "blood" Higham, he brought him with him from Leigh.
As others have said anybody could have won things with that Saints team, they only really had Bradford to challenge them and a squad of internationals. Shaun McCrae won things at Saints, ask Salford or Hull fans about him and his coaching. Millward's ability to coach is demonstrated better by his record since leaving Saints. In that time in SL he has failed to improve two struggling sides (in Wigan and then Cas) who were both capable of mid table finishes before he arrived and with him in charge both ended up as bottom of the table. Cas have unfortunately for them had to put up with it for longer than we did but his record shows that he is not the man to turn it around for them and he should go before things gets even worse.
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| Wellens was a kid in the academy and higham a kid with potential playing pt RL. He was throwing kids in at Wigan in at Wigan with nobody to look after them and had no money to strengthen.
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| Quote ="Cas Till I Die"Last week didn't you say I was 'a plank' for daring to say you weren't a great side ??? This week your calling yourself bottom feeders ??? Wtf Vasty ??? You been on some hard drugs lad ???
I'm sorry but the team/squad is not 14th best on paper... With a half competent coach our squad is as good as the Wakefield one as well as a few others.'"
No as ever you twist what folk say, why? Because you are bereft of a genuine argument.
I said we were better than you - we are at present.
I said we had a chance of top 8 - if results went our way - they did not but there is an outside chance I suppose.
However at no point in the last 25 years have I ever considered WTRLFC as Championship winning material. - You on the other hand still rather sadly believe that with a new coach and a few new players you will instantly become contenders. We are BOTTOM FEEDER clubs the only difference is that most Trinity fans know the score, they don't like it but they accept the realities of life. We fight for the scraps.
FWIW it would take a Coach of biblical gifts, a millionaire with deepest of pockets and 5 years in SL to get back to where you were 14 years ago which was best of the rest.
Let your anger go and face he truth, life will become easier - you are the 14th worst team in SL until the table says otherwise. That by the way will apply to WTRLFC if we don't start picking up wins because being bottom of the pile was something we seemed to be addicted to some years ago and is all to easily attained.
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