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| Quote ="pyeman"It was reported widely in the press that wakefield had recieved a substantial (over a million iirc) amount of cash when they had sold bv, was none of that true?'"
Thats the way i understood it as well.
Certainly the last set of accounts showed a drop in fixed assets of £1.5m,one would presume this asset is the ground.
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| Quote ="itsalldarntlane"well thats a surprise supporting your little friend, if he has been in the loop as you put it, i would have expected a more mature approach than calling names and just telling everyone else they know nowt, in fact for someone of such knowledge its a surprise that all he wants to do is troll other teams board and rubbish all opinions but his own
naah, hes just another know it all wum
ln the loop pmsl
'" Mature approach? Have you not read any of your own posts? Little friend? Mucky side of Heath Common? Your own name calling? beggars belief it really does. The fact that i know a few of the things on here is the reason i have backed him up, me and Vastman would never describe each other as friends. Would be interesting to see a poll of cas fans only to see how many wanted rid of RW and how many wants him to stay. Obviously no good to do it on here as you have every other supporter coming on wanting to place a vote for their own reason but i would be surprised if elected to keep him where someone else waiting in the wings.
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| oops, have i wondered onto the Wakefield board by mistake
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| Quote ="Barry Clegg 2nd"You sure you are a Wakefield fan? Seems you have not been reading carefully enough, i am not going to explain every incorrect part of your post as it has been done to death, if nobody wants to take any of the info on board it is pointless pointing you in the right direction. The part i will comment on is the underlined, [u1 bitter fev fan[/u does not equal many on the Wakefield board now does it? The loan is there to pay for the planning of this project, if so many people didn't freak out over the none story about the tax payment they would see, the tax payment come about because of the changes in law regards to image rights, this was something which happened at most SL clubs.'"
I feel insulted by the underlined. You have no idea have you.
If you are so in the know Are WE in the clear yet?
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| Quote ="Barry Clegg 2nd"You sure you are a Wakefield fan? Seems you have not been reading carefully enough, i am not going to explain every incorrect part of your post as it has been done to death, if nobody wants to take any of the info on board it is pointless pointing you in the right direction. The part i will comment on is the underlined, 1 bitter fev fan does not equal many on the Wakefield board now does it? The loan is there to pay for the planning of this project, if so many people didn't freak out over the none story about the tax payment they would see, the tax payment come about because of the changes in law regards to image rights, this was something which happened at most SL clubs.'"
Totally untrue. The RFL are still negotiating, on behalf of all SL clubs, with the tax authorities on the liabilities re image rights and related issues. It has not yet hit SL clubs.
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| Quote ="GiantJo"Totally untrue. The RFL are still negotiating, on behalf of all SL clubs, with the tax authorities on the liabilities re image rights and related issues. It has not yet hit SL clubs.'"
Very much doubt that!
The "Tax Man" will not negotiate on this matter....they want 'their' money, and the RFL does not have the financial clout to take them on!
On the other hand, Man UTD do have the money and will be challenging it!! It will be a test case.
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| Quote ="allmatt"I feel insulted by the underlined. You have no idea have you.
If you are so in the know
Are WE in the clear yet?'" Insulted? You now trying to pass yourself off as a wakey fan?
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| Quote ="Barry Clegg 2nd"Insulted? You now trying to pass yourself off as a wakey fan?'"
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| Quote ="SimonBarrett"Very much doubt that!
The "Tax Man" will not negotiate on this matter....they want 'their' money, and the RFL does not have the financial clout to take them on!
On the other hand, Man UTD do have the money and will be challenging it!! It will be a test case.'"
Doubt what you like. As the issue is sport wide the RFL are doing so. Find someone who is well informed and they will confirm this.
There is much to negotiate on as any decent accountant / tax lawyer will tell you. Fortunately one of the RFL non execs is a leading sport lawyer.
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| Quote ="captaincaveman"the community trust and wakefield trinity are two entirely diferrent entities. one is a charitable trust trying to build a community stadium which castleford were offered full use of. and therefore would not be expected to have "assets" the other is a business which does have assets and liabilities.
i would be very careful what you say on forums, as it sounded to me like you were suggesting a business [ustole[/u money from the trust fund to pay the tax bill?
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Thats a bit strong
Could the Trust have made a legal short term loan to the business?
I thougt this was about the Cas Stadium?
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| It is, but as you will soon realise, wake fans would rather be on this board, plus you can get upto date news on how much cas owe etc, They might even enlighten you if you ask a question? HTH
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| Shouldn't the above be moved to the wakey stadium goings on, rather then ours?
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| So the fact he is on the SWAG com. and has sat in many meetings with councillers regarding the stadium issues does not put him in the loop then? Most of what Vastman has put on threads regarding both stadiums turns out to be true, and one thing is for sure he gets more stuff right about your stadium issues than RW seems to get right. You keep burying your head in the sand and maybe things will be just fine.
Good luck i will now take your advice and not bother posting any more on your forum, how nice and welcoming you do your fellow fans proud im sure.
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Good luck i will now take your advice and not bother posting any more on your forum, how nice and welcoming you do your fellow fans proud im sure.
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pmsl, the influential swag group, the same one that got 15k signiyures but only 4k attended a play off game at bv, i didnt know i was dealing with such an eminent politician roflmao
toodle pip then, toddle off back into your loop pmsl, ill just tidy up now youve gone
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[size=200=#FF4000Good luck i will now take your advice and not bother posting any more on your forum[/size, how nice and welcoming you do your fellow fans proud im sure.
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| Thread cleaned up to remove discussion relating to financial matters - please be careful when making such speculation.
Also guys please learn to use quotes properly and don't try to edit them if you don't know how.
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Good luck i will now take your advice and not bother posting any more on your forum, how nice and welcoming you do your fellow fans proud im sure.
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So the fact that the developer is in talks with WMDC inregards to a land swap deal, in regards to your stadium, has nothing to do with EXTRA help from WMDC. And then people wonder why people outside of Wakefield itself moan about the council and the fact that every thing seems to be driven more towards Wakefield. Yes folks we're treated like we are because we're seen as insignificant in the scheme of things compared to Wakefield.
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| Quote ="Junglefever"So the fact that the developer is in talks with WMDC inregards to a land swap deal, in regards to your stadium, has nothing to do with EXTRA help from WMDC. And then people wonder why people outside of Wakefield itself moan about the council and the fact that every thing seems to be driven more towards Wakefield. Yes folks we're treated like we are because we're seen as insignificant in the scheme of things compared to Wakefield.
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| Quote ="Barry Clegg 2nd"I would give you an answer but your fellow fans have made it clear that outsiders are not welcome.'"
Not everyone.
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| Quote ="Barry Clegg 2nd"I would give you an answer but your fellow fans have made it clear that outsiders are not welcome.'"
outsiders are very welcome, trolls amd those on a wind up we can do without, which one are you ?
nice try for the sympathy vote there, must be a wakey trait that
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| Cas fan, Wakey fan, we are both in the mire . Funding is not there for either and it looks very bleak .
But whos fault is it, in the main it's the clubs fault, they should have made changes and given value for money for the paying fan, lets be honest are grounds are just the same as twenty / thirty years ago and thats not on, no wonder gates and the rest have not gone up . But i also lay the blame with the RFL who push push push for a global it seems game of Rugby League, wtf if they cant sustain the heartlands of the game what the hell do they expect in a world audience . It's getting to the stage where all clubs should exclude the RFL and start there own with a structure that all clubs and i mean all clubs can live with . On a side note screw SKY, go and watch .
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| At last what a cracking post, bang on. Time to evolve and move albeit were behind the 8-ball despite being told otherwise by our bod (roughly 8 years with regards moving home). But what other sport is dictated to by its governing body to the extreme where even the referees arent sanctioned or governed by its office but the heartland clubs (who arent bankrolled by the rfl) are left chasing shadows at the worst economic downtime since the war. Love your club, love your rugby league because nobody else will apart from sky and the europeans, celts, or southerners as far as we are concerned. yours m62 rugby corridor supporter
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| Quote ="Half Full"Cas fan, Wakey fan, we are both in the mire . [uFunding is not there for either[/u and it looks very bleak .
But whos fault is it, in the main it's the clubs fault, they should have made changes and given value for money for the paying fan, lets be honest are grounds are just the same as twenty / thirty years ago and thats not on, no wonder gates and the rest have not gone up . But i also lay the blame with the RFL who push push push for a global it seems game of Rugby League, wtf if they cant sustain the heartlands of the game what the hell do they expect in a world audience . It's getting to the stage where all clubs should exclude the RFL and start there own with a structure that all clubs and i mean all clubs can live with . On a side note screw SKY, go and watch .'" Unless i have missed something but the funding is in place four Newmarket once planning is granted. I agree with everything you have said especially about sky, with the price of my HD i cannot justify paying nearly £600 a year to watch rugby and nick jr!
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| Quote ="Barry Clegg 2nd"Unless i have missed something but the funding is in place four Newmarket once planning is granted. '"
I'm sure there was something about possible funding issues just before Christmas wasn't there?
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Quote officials admit funding is largely dependent on the success of a major development on the 100-acre site'"
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