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| Don't get the fuss on this one. Josh is still a rookie who you got from the worst Trinity side in many a year. He has the potential to be a good player, way to early to expect great things just yet.
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| Quote ="vastman"Don't get the fuss on this one. Josh is still a rookie who you got from the worst Trinity side in many a year. He has the potential to be a good player, way to early to expect great things just yet.'"
What he said
Sense from Vasty, im off for a lay down
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| Quote ="DJ KYLE THOM"The guy can obviously score tries but is SHOCKING in defence. I've never seen a player be dragged inside so many times. We need to chain this guy to the wing so he stays there. Absolutely useless.'"
When you have an idiot in the centres who goes in field every time, the winger has to come in too to stop there being a gap where the centre should be.
Once he gets a proper centre his defence will improve.
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| yes he gets drawn inside, but it is usually to fill the gap left by the numpty called mcgoldrick
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| it is about time cas let McGoldrick go.
he can not tackle always out of position, shots out of the line.
he as played Fullback, Centre, Stand off & Loose Forward and only the position he is good at is sat in the bar with a beer in his hand.
McGoldrick must GO!!!
My Cas back line for London would be:-
FB: Owen
W: Youngquest
C: Dixon
C: Thompson or Grehan
W: Griffin
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| Owen
Dixon
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I think playing Dixon in the centres is just a way to try and accommodate everyone but Youngquest should play in the 20s until he's back fully match fit, at this point Griffin is on form and Dixon is far better on the wing than in the centres - where he also has a tendency to come in field for some odd reason.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"When you have an idiot in the centres who goes in field every time, the winger has to come in too to stop there being a gap where the centre should be.
Once he gets a proper centre his defence will improve.'"
Although i agree with others saying Goldy must go, i'm not 100% on this all being his fault that griffin keeps coming inside.
I also agree though - he's a rookie and has a big future ahead of him.
I'm also seeing huge improvements from Owen from last season and can only see him getting even better over the season and next.....
BUT, with both players - we need to start feeding them and bulk them up that bit more.
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| Quote ="DJ KYLE THOM"Although i agree with others saying Goldy must go, i'm not 100% on this all being his fault that griffin keeps coming inside.'"
Watch the game and you'll see that the only reason Griffin comes inside is because of McGoldrick.
The winger HAS to come in when the centre does, McGoldrick flies out of the line leaving a 3 on 1 overlap for Griffin to deal with and it lead to a try at Salford, 3 at Catalan and another 3 last night.
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| Fb. owen
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C. Griffin(he's a centre not a winger)
W. Jordy
Mcgoldrick at loose forward,rest jones against london
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| Winger's prime aim is to score tries, If Griffin gets 20 plus tries thats good enough for me. He will tighten up on his defence. Would you prefer Michael wainwright wholehearted never beat a man but tackled well. No Griffin every time.
Look at martin Offiah the best modern day winger by a country mile twice as good as Ryan Hall, he never tackled a man, but score nearly 500 tries. Scoring is the main function of a wingman else you would but someone like Stauart Jones there.
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| Quote ="Scabbycat"Winger's prime aim is to score tries, If Griffin gets 20 plus tries thats good enough for me. He will tighten up on his defence. Would you prefer Michael wainwright wholehearted never beat a man but tackled well. No Griffin every time.
Look at martin Offiah the best modern day winger by a country mile twice as good as Ryan Hall, he never tackled a man, but score nearly 500 tries. Scoring is the main function of a wingman else you would but someone like Stauart Jones there.'"
39 tryies this season if he carries on at current rate
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| Quote ="Scabbycat"Winger's prime aim is to score tries, If Griffin gets 20 plus tries thats good enough for me. He will tighten up on his defence. Would you prefer Michael wainwright wholehearted never beat a man but tackled well. No Griffin every time.
Look at martin Offiah the best modern day winger by a country mile twice as good as Ryan Hall, he never tackled a man, but score nearly 500 tries. Scoring is the main function of a wingman else you would but someone like Stauart Jones there.'"
If you have a good centre inside him the winger should be alright in defence really.
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| Quote ="Fully"If you have a good centre inside him the winger should be alright in defence really.'"
Arundel and Dixon will have to swap back to the right centre/ wing where they
played last year.
play Griffin in centre on the left side with youngquest
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| Quote ="hazzard"Arundel and Dixon will have to swap back to the right centre/ wing where they
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play Griffin in centre on the left side with youngquest'"
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| Griffin had good games at Wakefield as a winger. As a centre i thought he was not as good. Against leeds at home he played centre and in defence it lead to Watkins scoring 3 or 4 on the wing due to him tackling the wrong man inside. He always seemed better on the wing for me. I think he is a SL standard winger (and has played fullback in the academy i think).
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| When he was with us (Batley) in 2010 and made his pro debut, he was absolutely dreadful for the first 7 or 8 games he played. I mean REALLY dreadful - couldn't catch a pass, make a break or tackle for toffee. Then, all of a sudden, he picked up and looked a potent weapon. IMO, he's a kid who played for a bit too long in the Academy, up against kids he could bully around at will due to his size and speed. This was to the detriment of his game, as up against players he could easily handle - as opposed to being thrust into first-team action up against real men - little attention was paid to faults in his game. He's got definite ability and some great attributes, but needs some serious coaching.
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| Quote ="Richard1"Griffin had good games at Wakefield as a winger. As a centre i thought he was not as good. Against leeds at home he played centre and in defence it lead to Watkins scoring 3 or 4 on the wing due to him tackling the wrong man inside. He always seemed better on the wing for me. I think he is a SL standard winger (and has played fullback in the academy i think).'"
Spot on - I believe it was his spell in the centre that saw him fall out of favour with Wakey fans; he was atrocious.
As it stands, he's looking like a potent winger; 7 tries in 3 games - that equals his tally with us for us a whole season.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Spot on - I believe it was his spell in the centre that saw him fall out of favour with Wakey fans; he was atrocious.
As it stands, he's looking like a potent winger; 7 tries in 3 games - that equals his tally with us for us a whole season.'"
Yup. It makes perfect sense. His positional play is a bit shocking at times. On the wing, you can get away with it, in the centre forget it. He is a good finisher and we have 3 centres (that is excluding McGoldrick who is too fat and slow and Ferres who isn't a centre but did a half decent job last season) so why bother?
Use Grehan and Thompson for now. When Arudal is back problem solved.
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| By a country mile Josh is not the finish article yet, however when we've got Millward back in camp I'm sure that he'll work in his positional play and defense. He does at least know where to score a try.....which is always a good starting block.
Goldy however, IMO, has had very little to offer us for quite a few years now.
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| I've been genuinely impressed with him so far to be honest. I don't think he has any flaws that can't be worked on with the help of experienced players and a good coach, and we have both of those. I guess we just have to be patient with him, but I certainly hope he maintains his current strike rate.
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| Good attacking wise but defence is woeful. Hopefully this will be rectified with the right training.
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