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| Quote ="tropical1"Putting all local rivalries aside i hope they get through this - they are a club with a history and true grass routes, what i can say is i prefer playing wakey at home with the support they bring rather than some expansion clubs who may bring 20 fans if we are very lucky.
=#FF0000Can't help but think if they were an expansion club they would be get a bit more "help" from the RFL than they are
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RFL or super league loaned Crusaders 700 thousand pounds to be paid back over ten years Wakey asked for 350 thousand to be paid back in 12 months and were refused !!! Don't get me wrong I am not blaming them for our downfall but between them and how our club as been run for the last few years I would be surprised if we get out of this one
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| What gets me is why is the one for the drop between us and Wakey? surely if Crusaders have gone in to administration they should be dropped from SL automatically
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| Quote ="casman2"What gets me is why is the one for the drop between us and Wakey? surely if Crusaders have gone in to administration they should be dropped from SL automatically'"
The same reason why they kept harlequins in when they went into administration, they really are no longer interested in the heartland of the sport. It's all about expansion and keeping these clubs in no matter what!
Whether this proves to be right in the long term we wait to see.
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| Quote RFL or super league loaned Crusaders 700 thousand pounds to be paid back over ten years Wakey asked for 350 thousand to be paid back in 12 months and were refused !!! Don't get me wrong I am not blaming them for our downfall but between them and how our club as been run for the last few years I would be surprised if we get out of this one '"
I think the 700 grand was not a loan but monies owed to the rfl by crusaders which is probably made up of league fees and monies given to the club when they started up. After the fiasco of the monies owed i think many more clubs will find it harder in the future to get financial assistance from the rfl.
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| Quote ="casman2"surely if Crusaders have gone in to administration they should be dropped from SL automatically'"
Under what rule?
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| I was told it was money given to them for players and coaches and backroom/administration staff. Crusaders actually owed over a million. After 700k a big wedge of the rest of the debt was owed HMRC which i am told they went into administration ro wipe this off and HMRC have basically taken their bat and ball when it comes to using repayment plans for paying tax back so insteading paying back in instalments we have been asked to pay a bill in full. Not sure how true this is but if is there could be other clubs in the firing line.
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| Quote ="tb"Under what rule?'"
I meant when the licensing comes around again. Isn't one of the criteria to do with the financial state of the club?
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| indeed. I expect administration to be a major negative in their licence application. But not necessarily a fatal one.
Similarly, I expect the fact that we're not playing in the new stadium we promised in the 2008 bid to be a weakness in our 2011 bid. But, as long as there's progress in building it and it's likely to be ready for the 2012 season, I certainly don't expect it to be a fatal one.
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| Rodney Walker seems to be keeping a low profile, or does he know something and wants to keep his distance from wakey till it all blows over?
Seems like a waste of his hundred and odd grand lol
After all the polecats gloating over the last 6 months or so I feel we deserve a little chuckle
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| Quote ="tb"Under what rule?'"
maybe the same one that went against Widnes last time, or has that been forgotton ???
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| Quote ="thetruth"maybe the same one that went against Widnes last time, or has that been forgotton ???'"
The one that saw Widnes readmitted to the league they'd been playing in before administration, but with a points deduction? You mean exactly the same as has happened with Crusaders? Or do you mean thatnder that rule, they should have been treated differently to and far harsher than Widnes, outside the scope of the actual rule?
Or do you mean it should be taken into account when their licence application for 2012-14 is considered? [url=http://viewtopic.php?p=15755537#p15755537I not only agree it should, but I expect it will be[/url
Indeed, I fully expect every bid submitted for this April to be judged on its merits. The problem for Trinity is that, looking from outside without obviously knowing the details, the merits of any bid submitted by them seem to be getting fewer and fewer, almost with each passing week.
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| page 2 of this weeks league weekly - Danny lockwood rips into Ted Richardsons management of the club, it does not make good reading at all
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| The management of Wakey is and has been appalling for the past 20 years or so. Too many family members involved and not one decent businessman.
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| Ted Richarson LE today
" So far we have received about 14 cheques"
"We are probably going to have a winding-up hearing in February"
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| Quote ="bigalf"Ted Richarson LE today
" So far we have received about 14 cheques"
"We are probably going to have a winding-up hearing in February"'"
That's an understatement and a half.
I do feel sorry for the fans, their club as been run so poorly over the years that it puts them into this predicament.
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| Quote ="Junglefever"That's an understatement and a half.
I do feel sorry for the fans, their club as been run so poorly over the years that it puts them into this predicament.'"
I feel sorry for the Wakefield fans too. I hope they get out of it and someone who cares about the club is in charge.
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"I feel sorry for the Wakefield fans too. I hope they get out of it and someone who cares about the club is in charge.'"
Its always the fans that suffer and ITS a massive setback but its not the end, its the start of a new chapter.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"its not the end, its the start of a new chapter.'"
Don't be too sure BIGAL1
New chapter. Same book and characters.
Three directors of WTRLFC are also directors of a Company which appears not to be trading. The Company was incorporated Mid October 2009 - Just before the first Winding Up Order
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| Quote ="bigalf"Don't be too sure BIGAL1
New chapter. Same book and characters.
Three directors of WTRLFC are also directors of a Company which appears not to be trading. The Company was incorporated Mid October 2009 - Just before the first Winding Up Order'"
Typo I think, you mean mid-October 2010 I suspect?
There is nothing wrong (sort of) with having the phoenix ready to fly, but a new company with no money is just the same as an old company with no money... I think Ted wants out mate, but it would also be irresponsible if he just walked away, wouldn't it?
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Typo I think, you mean mid-October 2010 I suspect?
There is nothing wrong (sort of) with having the phoenix ready to fly, but a new company with no money is just the same as an old company with no money... I think Ted wants out mate, but it would also be irresponsible if he just walked away, wouldn't it?'"
Incorporation Date 14th October 2009
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Typo I think, you mean mid-October 2010 I suspect?
There is nothing wrong (sort of) with having the phoenix ready to fly, but a new company with no money is just the same as an old company with no money... I think Ted wants out mate, but it would also be irresponsible if he just walked away, wouldn't it?'"
Oh if only IA could take over the Wildcats , the world would be a better places. The fairies would return to the bottom of my garden, wars would end and troops would exchange flowers and hugs, one big rainbow would stretch from pole to pole and famine would be gone with but of few crumbs of IAs wisdom.
If only the whole world could follow your righteous path they too could be saved like the Wildcats, they just need to open their eyes and see that the PROPHET has come. Who would have thought the second coming would happen in Wakefield and that the Messiah would be a rhino.
TRB the baptist has paved the way and anointed you IA as the saviour, now let none doubt any more, let us fall into line and be led to our salvation.
[size=50SMALL PRINT: No SL No Newmarket = crucifixion [/size
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| Quote ="bigalf"Incorporation Date 14th October 2009'"
Thanks for clarifying and sorry for ever doubting you!
I actual feel much better about that had it been 2010, it was clearly prompted by advisor's and/or advice at the time and maybe even by the RFL (pure speculation)? I still think Ted wants out (although his view in Oct 09 could have been different!) and not worried by a dormant company sitting there that may of may not be used.
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Bless you my son, all your sins are forgiven and despite the unnatural demon of bitterness, hate and rage that currently posses your soul you still have the opportunity to sit at the right of the Rugby Gods along with their only son, Phil Clarke!'"
Phil Clarke is GOD
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