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| Gareth Ellis is cutting short his time at Wests. This year will be his last for the Tigers and he will be coming back to England. Wests have granted his release on compassionate grounds.
Come on Cas - make this happen.
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| Financially we should be well placed to attract him with Hudson and McGoldrick off-contract and if he is not fussed about going out in a blaze of glory he might be persuaded to fulfill his boyhood dream of turning out in our black and amber.
However I suspect he will take one look at the quality of the squad we are likely to have and sign elsewhere.
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| Quote ="smoking monkey"
However I suspect he will take one look at the quality of the squad we are likely to have and sign elsewhere.'"
Thats my worry, ellis is a winner. Why would he want to sign for an unambious club, even if its his home town team.
I think we will be out priced anyway, warrington/leeds/saints would offer him more than what we could.
We need a much better squad for next season to persuade him to sign.
With mcgoldrick/hudson out of contract i think we need to find 3/4 quality players with the monies saved on on there wages.
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| Quote ="poppys mum"Thats my worry, ellis is a winner. Why would he want to sign for an unambious club, even if its his home town team.
I think we will be out priced anyway, warrington/leeds/saints would offer him more than what we could.
We need a much better squad for next season to persuade him to sign.
With mcgoldrick/hudson out of contract i think we need to find 3/4 quality players with the monies saved on on there wages.'"
Us signing Ellis would show ambition. Ellis & Chase on the same team, we'd be a 2 man team
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| There is more chance of me getting a contract with Cas than Gaz Ellis, I mean I haven't completely given up hope but my cruel lack of talent, ability, ahtleticism and the fact I have not had any boots on since an ill fated comeback 10 years ago at Eastmoor aside - hope springs eternal.
I think there will be clubs with bigger wads of dollars to throw around than us - fact, not board bashing - so given this is likely to be his last big contract, I think he will be cashing that in and I can't blame him. Unless he thinks either A: he has earned enough and votes with his heart. or B: He is, like Danny Orr, thinking longer term, family settled and planning for life after playing - but I would arguably say that Ellis could get another 2/3 year big money deal and then still come to us to do B.
Nice idea though - Strange how everyone is convinced that there is nothing for Ryan McGoldrick at the end of this season, there is only one person who's opinion matters at this stage and he is on compassionate leave.
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| 8. Emmett
9. Clark
10. Huby
11. Ellis
12. Holmes
13. Ferres
Not a bad pack for next season. And 5 Cas lads as well.
Think Cas should make every effort to sign him up. I think the money will be there just depends whether Gareth wants a chance of immediate silverware (Leeds), or a chance to pull on the shirt he supported as a boy and lead us into a new era. it's the latter.
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| If they keep Gentle Hull FC wouldn't be a bad shout, nor would St Helens if they kept Simmons.
The problems Cas could run into are the ambition of the board/coach.
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| Garath wants a 3 years deal where ever he goes.
He also wants it sorted sooner rathe than later.
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| Quote ="poppys mum"Garath wants a 3 years deal where ever he goes.
He also wants it sorted sooner rathe than later.'"
He also, understandably, wants a very good final payday.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"He also, understandably, wants a very good final payday.'"
Most RL players coming to the end of there career want that.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"Quote ="poppys mum"Garath wants a 3 years deal where ever he goes.
He also wants it sorted sooner rathe than later.'"
He also, understandably, wants a very good final payday.'"
He could get more money in Australia over the next 3 years than he could in England. Have you not seen the strength of the Aussie Dollar or the fact that there salary cap is going up massively.
Its only average players coming over from the NRL that see real benefit as they go from being on a pittance to a decent wage on the basis that there Australian so must be good!
In order of likeliness I think it will be 1 Cas 2 Leeds 3 Warrington (they have some magic formula that makes players fit under the cap)
He made his break with Wakey, won things with Leeds, tested himself at the highest level he could with Wests and will now probably finish his career at the club he supports at Cas!
A 3year deal may scare off the top clubs because he will be 35 by the time his contract ends and will still be on huge money! A 2 year deal at Leeds and his swansong season at Cas would probably suit him well though!
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| Quote ="jarvis12345"A 2 year deal at Leeds and his swansong season at Cas would probably suit him well though!'"
I can see it panning out like that; 2 years on top dollar with a glamour club, then a final year at whichever smaller club can afford to pick him up.
Whatever happens, it'll be great to see him back in SL.
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| Quote ="jarvis12345"He could get more money in Australia over the next 3 years than he could in England. Have you not seen the strength of the Aussie Dollar or the fact that there salary cap is going up massively.
Its only average players coming over from the NRL that see real benefit as they go from being on a pittance to a decent wage on the basis that there Australian so must be good!
In order of likeliness I think it will be 1 Cas 2 Leeds 3 Warrington (they have some magic formula that makes players fit under the cap)
He made his break with Wakey, won things with Leeds, tested himself at the highest level he could with Wests and will now probably finish his career at the club he supports at Cas!
A 3year deal may scare off the top clubs because he will be 35 by the time his contract ends and will still be on huge money! A 2 year deal at Leeds and his swansong season at Cas would probably suit him well though!'"
I know full well he could have made more money by staying in Australia, thing is he wants to play over here! He'll take the best financial package he can get, whether that be Cas or whoever. My bet is that he'll end up at Leeds again, Hetherington has already claimed they have room on the cap for a marquee signing.
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| My guess is Ellis would go back to Leeds 1st, then maybe Hull or Warrington next.
As much as i would like to see him in a Cas shirt i don't think the board could pull it off to be honest.
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| i would forget about mr Ellis , you need to be more focused on a Mr A. minastration
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| Quote ="Sun Bed Kid"i would forget about mr Ellis , you need to be more focused on a Mr A. minastration
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Aminastration? Don't get it
I've heard of amination but that's just taking the wee.
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| If its administration you mean SBK he no doubt will be staying well clear of Wakey.
Anyway I've just seen GE doing hand brake turns on the Wheldon Road car park !
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| With a lot of players off-contract and the captaincy up for grabs, I can see no better lure for Ellis than leading out his hometown club into a new stadium and new generation.
He's won things in his career. I think if he's true to his word we stand a very good chance of luring him.
To the person who quoted the pack as well:
Emmitt
Milner
Huby
Ellis
Holmes
Ferres
Walker
Millington
Clark
Mitchell
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Massey
Thompson
Martin
Harris
Strong-ish team there - that's pretty much the pack sorted
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| Quote ="Sun Bed Kid"i would forget about mr Ellis , you need to be more focused on a Mr A. minastration
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Priceless, especially coming from that side of the muck , where i may add they are experts at administration .
Whatever next ? Wildthing threatening to ban everyone ? Dodgy window man erecting a pigeon loft and telling the RFL that they are stands ?
The list is endless
SBK grow a pair and do one you clown
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| Gareth Ellis playing for Cas would be great.
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| Take it or leave it, no difference to me.
Cas should concentrate on keeping afloat rather than chasing Gaz.
Carlsberg are your biggest priority, or should be.
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| not sure why mr ellis has such loyalty for cas given that cas said he was no good.
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| Quote ="Fully"With a lot of players off-contract and the captaincy up for grabs, [uI can see no better lure for Ellis than leading out his hometown club into a new stadium and new generation.[/u
He's won things in his career. I think if he's true to his word we stand a very good chance of luring him.
To the person who quoted the pack as well:
Emmitt
Milner
Huby
Ellis
Holmes
Ferres
Walker
Millington
Clark
Mitchell
Squad Players
Massey
Thompson
Martin
Harris
Strong-ish team there - that's pretty much the pack sorted'" You do realize he's not an academy player?
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