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| Just wondering where the thread is and Petition frothing from the mouth against Hull FC?
I mean considering the fans incidents on Saturday of a fan running on the pitch to physically assault a player, or the numerous shockingly verbal songs aimed at Ryan Bailey. Songs that could also be heard on the TV.
I mean there were pages and pages of a thread against Leeds only a few weeks back. Surely the Cas fans are not only homophobic but childishly hypocritically biased aswell? or are they?
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| tee heee heee
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| Where was the petition against Leeds fans?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I mean there were pages and pages of a thread against Leeds only a few weeks back. Surely the Cas fans are not only homophobic but childishly hypocritically biased aswell? or are they?'"
I know this is trolling, but that there just makes me upset. Is this what people think of us? I'm that far from being a homophobe that it's horrible to think that as a Cas fan I'm being labelled as one.
Jog on mate.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Just wondering where the thread is and Petition frothing from the mouth against Hull FC?
I mean considering the fans incidents on Saturday of a fan running on the pitch to physically assault a player, or the numerous shockingly verbal songs aimed at Ryan Bailey. Songs that could also be heard on the TV.
I mean there were pages and pages of a thread against Leeds only a few weeks back. Surely the Cas fans are not only homophobic but childishly hypocritically biased aswell? or are they?'"
You are a nob and i claim my five pounds.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Just wondering where the thread is and Petition frothing from the mouth against Hull FC?
I mean considering the fans incidents on Saturday of a fan running on the pitch to physically assault a player, or the numerous shockingly verbal songs aimed at Ryan Bailey. Songs that could also be heard on the TV.
I mean there were pages and pages of a thread against Leeds only a few weeks back. Surely the Cas fans are not only homophobic but childishly hypocritically biased aswell? or are they?'"
If you knew anything about the game, you would realise that Hull FC were financed by the RFL (in that shameful merger) and are therefore untouchable. The RFL will here nothing wrong said about them, believe me I have mailed the RFL and they blame the security firm not FC. Now on to your second point, i saw no petition but would have signed one if their had been one, the 80 minutes of abuse aimed at Graham and the ref were a million times more offensive than the 15 seconds that the idiots were chanting at the Liar thomas and should have been punished , all being fair, but it isnt as we all know and see every season, so my little scaly friend .......................................back under your bridge
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Just wondering where the thread is and Petition frothing from the mouth against Hull FC?
I mean considering the fans incidents on Saturday of a fan running on the pitch to physically assault a player, or the numerous shockingly verbal songs aimed at Ryan Bailey. Songs that could also be heard on the TV.
I mean there were pages and pages of a thread against Leeds only a few weeks back. Surely the Cas fans are not only homophobic but childishly hypocritically biased aswell? or are they?'"
We were all on our way to St Helens but got side tracked and ended up involved in a homosexual love-in near Runcorn so we missed the Hull-Leeds game. Why don't you start a petition for us seeing as you were witness to the verbal atrocities?
P.S You are a Sheffield Eagles fan with ringworm and I claim my five pounds.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Just wondering where the thread is and Petition frothing from the mouth against Hull FC?
I mean considering the fans incidents on Saturday of a fan running on the pitch to physically assault a player, or the numerous shockingly verbal songs aimed at Ryan Bailey. Songs that could also be heard on the TV.
I mean there were pages and pages of a thread against Leeds only a few weeks back. Surely the Cas fans are not only homophobic but childishly hypocritically biased aswell? or are they?'"
go on, you have been on some form of exotic tobacco products haven't you
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Just wondering where the thread is and Petition frothing from the mouth against Hull FC?
I mean considering the fans incidents on Saturday of a fan running on the pitch to physically assault a player, or the numerous shockingly verbal songs aimed at Ryan Bailey. Songs that could also be heard on the TV.
I mean there were pages and pages of a thread against Leeds only a few weeks back. Surely the Cas fans are not only homophobic but childishly hypocritically biased aswell? or are they?'"
You're a .
But, the behaviour of the Hull fans who got on the field of play and assaulted poor Scott Donald was atrocious. In my opinion, Hull FC should be fined for failure to protect the players on the field. Whilst the behaviour was unacceptable, I don't tarnish all Hull fans to be like that. I like Hull FC, it's one of my favourite places to go in SL and their fans generally on a whole are quality if not the best in SL.
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| Quote ="ambernotyeller"[uIf you knew anything about the game, you would realise that Hull FC were financed by the RFL (in that shameful merger) and are therefore untouchable. The RFL will here nothing wrong said about them, [/ubelieve me I have mailed the RFL and they blame the security firm not FC. Now on to your second point, i saw no petition but would have signed one if their had been one, the 80 minutes of abuse aimed at Graham and the ref were a million times more offensive than the 15 seconds that the idiots were chanting at the Liar thomas and should have been punished , all being fair, but it isnt as we all know and see every season, so my little scaly friend .......................................back under your bridge
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what a load of rubbish!
if we are untouchable, why would the rfl fine us £60k for the thackery incident in the 2008 challenge cup?
the rfl are quite correct regarding the stewarding, that has nothing to do with the club, it's the smc that ake responsibility over that, though i wouldn't be suprised if we cop a ban as our chief exec has already stated it could be more than likely to happen
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| But if Cas are going to be fined for a handful of morons chanting, then where's the punishment for the consistent problems with Hull's fans. Yes, you can point to every club and find an incident or two in isolation...but this has been going on with Hull for years. A player got taken out by a fan, and that's unacceptable. Could have been a lot worse. The club can't hide behind the SMC because at the end of the day they choose to employ them. It's failure to control the fans, on a far more dangerous basis than Cas allowing a single chant to occur.
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| What about Noble, Whats happening there then ?
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| Quote ="Speedy"What about Noble, Whats happening there then ?'"
according to mr Solly, the RFL are still investigating the matter, and imo will do so till they consider it forgotten and sweep it under that big carpet
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| Quote ="joe14c" The club can't hide behind the SMC because at the end of the day they choose to employ them. '"
What a load b0llox. The SMC run the stadium, it is they who employ the stewards and not FC.
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| So then surely Cas can hide behind their SMC and say it was their fault the fans chanted at Thomas and not the club. Somewhere along the line the club have to take some responsibility, it is their fans and a SMC that they employ.
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| Quote ="joe14c"So then surely Cas can hide behind their SMC and say it was their fault the fans chanted at Thomas and not the club. Somewhere along the line the club have to take some responsibility, it is their fans and a SMC that they employ.'"
What are you trying to say there?
In my opinion, Cas should not have been fined for supporters chanting, it is part and parcel of the game.
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| Quote ="joe14c"But if Cas are going to be fined for a handful of morons chanting, then [uwhere's the punishment for the consistent problems with Hull's fans.[/u Yes, you can point to every club and find an incident or two in isolation...but this has been going on with Hull for years. A player got taken out by a fan, and that's unacceptable. Could have been a lot worse. [uThe club can't hide behind the SMC because at the end of the day they choose to employ them.[/u It's failure to control the fans, on a far more dangerous basis than Cas allowing a single chant to occur.'"
1-no trouble at the game at your place this year,or last year(i attended both)even if there were more hull fans than cas fans
2-do we CHOOSE to employ them?no-we have no choice.
3-who employs your stewards?smc
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"1-no trouble at the game at your place this year,or last year(i attended both)even if there were more hull fans than cas fans
2-do we CHOOSE to employ them?no-we have no choice.
3-who employs your stewards?smc
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Jimmy, what makes you think Joe14c is a Cas fan? i'd hazzard a guess he's not.
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| I'm not a Cas fan.
It's irrelevant that there has been no trouble from Hull fans at the jungle, there are consistently incidents over a number of SL seasons.
The point is other teams, and I'm citing Cas as the example, have been fined for much less. What if that fan had attacked Donald, or had a weapon on him. If you don't get handed a fine comparable to the one handed to Cas it's a joke.
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"1-no trouble at the game at your place this year,or last year(i attended both)even if there were more hull fans than cas fans
2-do we CHOOSE to employ them?no-we have no choice.
3-who employs your stewards?smc
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Jeez you codheads of either persuasion are tedious..don't you ever tire of this 'we have more fans than Elvis' stuff.
Back on thread, maybe those clubs with grounds which are old but which they own and therefore control should score some license points against the lodgers/sharers in better stadia who - according to your argument - seem less empowered to ensure safety/security.
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| Quote ="smoking monkey"Jeez you codheads of either persuasion are tedious..don't you ever tire of this 'we have more fans than Elvis' stuff.
Back on thread, maybe those clubs with grounds which are old but which they own and therefore control should score some license points against the lodgers/sharers in better stadia who - according to your argument - seem less empowered to ensure safety/security.'"
Interesting point. It would seem such clubs are 'unfineable' if the responsibility of stewarding lies with the stadium rather than the club. What kind of world is it where a club is punished for owning assets?
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| I'm pretty sure that in order to stage any RL match, Hull would have to have convinced Red Hall that the chosen venue would tick all the boxes, meet all H and S regulations, and that would have included adequately trained security staffing levels.
As part of their Licence, I'd hazard a guess that as far as the RL is concerned, it's Hull's resposibility to make sure these levels are maintained, therefore any sanctions will be against Hull, not SMC
100k fine should concentrate their thoughts!
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| Quote ="Scrappy Doo"What are you trying to say there?
In my opinion, Cas should not have been fined for supporters chanting, it is part and parcel of the game.'"
Well said mate. The difference is Scott Donald is not a high profile union convert, and he hasn't moaned about it repeatedly on tv. I do not condone in anyway what happened to GT, but it is no coincidence the RFL acted after GT mentioned the incident on tv. If they don't act then it makes a mockery of the fine handed out to Cas. In my eyes it is not enough for the club to say"We don't employ them." They still have a responsibility to make sure they are doing their job properly. I have a number of people who work under me, I don't employ them, but it is my job to make sure they do theirs properly. If they don't it's me for the high jump.
EDIT this was meant to be a reply to joe14c
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Just wondering where the thread is and Petition frothing from the mouth against Hull FC?
I mean considering the fans incidents on Saturday of a fan running on the pitch to physically assault a player, or the numerous shockingly verbal songs aimed at Ryan Bailey. Songs that could also be heard on the TV.
I mean there were pages and pages of a thread against Leeds only a few weeks back. Surely the Cas fans are not only homophobic but childishly hypocritically biased aswell? or are they?'"
How dare you insinuate that all cas fans are homophobic just because a few morons chanted at one game. It is you that is childish!!!! No jog off back from wherever you came
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| Just a note,the smc and hull fc have barred for life 2 fans already over the incident,how long did it take Cas to act ?
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