1122 at Crusaders game tonight has to be lowest ever - so can anyone tell me how they deserve to be in super league. This was agame where a win would see them go into a play off position and they could not attract a half decent crowd- quite a few NL sides get better crowds.

did they win ?

Unfortunately for our top 8 spot yes they did 16 12

very poor attendance complete joke kick Quins & Celtic out and keep you & Wakey.

A total disgrace that attendances aren't taken into consideration. I remember the big song and dance when they had like 6K for the visit of Leeds on the opening day.

They blatantly add more to SL then us and Wakey with their crowds and their local players.

according to the commentators there were no more than 500 there.

Crusaders have averaged 5,209 fans at the Racecourse this season, a 1,541 improvement on last year's figure of 3,668. And that figure is expected to soar as Crusaders chase a maiden play-off spot when last year's Super League Grand Final runners up St Helens and Hull KR visit the Racecourse Ground.
And Crusaders RL would like to thank the Welsh public for their continued support throughout the 2010.

I do not know any NL sides that average 5k. If you are surprised that there was a poor attendance for a game played hundreds of miles from either club's support base, at a time when the majority of people who may have wanted to go would have just finished work, with no local advertising and in a stadium that makes Knowsley Road look like Wembley, then you're even more of a dope than you first appear.

So we're not including the 1100 tonight and the 1500 against us a few week ago?


You should just have an overall home attendance not just for the racecourse as you'll probably be based somewhere else next year.

It is good that attendances have increased but how many are actually paying to get in??? its all very well to give tickets away to promote interest however at some point the club needs to start making money and people need to start digging into their own pockets to watch a game.
Also headhunter why didn't the club advertise the game why kick off at 6 i think you are the one looking a little bit silly here - your club didn't promote the game not casfan4 life

Everyone pays to get in. Crusaders have not given away a single free ticket this year.

The game wasn't advertised because nobody at the club wanted to play in Neath, the only reason for the fixture being played in Neath was because Mike Turner(the same idiot responsible for the visa fiasco last year and more) signed a contract at the start of the year that the club couldn't back out of without being sued. The games in Neath have been a waste of time and made a big loss, the club probably just wrote them off and rightly so. Mike Turner is also responsible for the stupid kick off time. The blame falls solely at his feet.

Crusaders RL are delighted to announce they have smashed their 2009 attendance records with three home games to spare.
2010 Super League attendances for Crusaders already total 48,374, which is 687 more than the total end of season amount for 2009, with three home matches remaining. With bumper crowds expected against St Helens and Hull KR, the club are aiming to break the 60,000 barrier and bring in an extra 12,000 fans compared to last year.

Making progress!!!

Ticket have and are being given away believe me I know this as a fact - i know this first of all because all clubs have an allocation to give away as promotional, also I happen to have family within the the powers that be at redhall

Yeah you're right. The player's wives, directors and sponsors probably all got free tickets.

The most important figures to take away from tonights game are 16, 12, 22 and 8!

Would be funny if you did make the playoffs, 50 hairy Welsh women singing green grass of home at Headingley.

No more of a dope than the clown whofixed your game with a 6pm KO. But as for average attendance of 5000 + here goes

V Hull (good away following) - 6794
V Catalans - 6124
V Hudds 4127
V Cats (in cup) 1817 (where is the 6000 plus that watched the league game)
V Wigan (good awayfollowing) 6075
V Bradford 2979
v Wakefield 2837
V Wire (good away following and playing well this year)-5197
v Salford 2412
V Cas 1495
V Quins 1122

That is only 10 homegames plus cup so have missed a couple but they would have had to have been huge attendances to make it 5000+ as the above does noteven give you 4000.

Also seems to methat the better you are playing and the higher upthe table you gothe smaller your attendance!!!

The only game you're missing is Leeds, where they had an attendance of 10336 for opening day of season.

Average attendances is 4500 roughly with that added in.

Wonder how many of them were paying guests - and where are they now!!

My god two years in and only getting an average of 4.5 k, should kick us out now just in case we make the playoffs instead of you huh?

There was a bigger crowd at Hunslet V Workington last night (a match which was also televised).

Given your family connections in Red Hall how's the appeal going? (or do they not tell the cleaners that?)

I can assure you my family member is not a cleaner!

Cleaners do not go to the world cup for free

or do family members like myself get into every game in the four nations series last year without paying a penny.

However all I was pointing out was that free tickets are given away as a way of attracting new support, a common way is to go into schools and give free tickets to the kids however they need to be accompanied by a paying adult. Also any local junior clubs are given tickets or passes to get in for free. It is common practice. Free tickets are not just for directors - staff - and players family.

As for our appeal my family member would not discuss confidential matters outside of work. However any club is free to contact Red Hall for ideas on how to develop their support base

So why did you bring up the question of free tickets if everybody does it then?