Now that season has finished does anyone know what happens or is happening with Mathers? Does he have to come back to Cas to train or does he stay at Wakey in the hope a deal is sorted (which i think will happen ) ? just wondering how it works thats all.

Delboy66(aye of the tigers fanzine)

I'm sure he'll stay at Wakefield as he does seem happy there.

Wakey have offered him a deal, the stumbling block is getting anywhere near the wages he got at Cas, he will have to decide if he wants to continue playing for a that wage.

I understand that he is well thought of and is a role model to all the younger players and a true Pro to have around the club.

Not Richies biggest fan and never have been but i can't find anyone who will say a bad word about him at the club.

Or take a chunk of your cap next season when there is clearly a breakdown between him and the coach, I would expect some negotiations where he gets released from his Cas contract with some financial compensation, that said I am no agent or financial advisor just how I see it in the world of contracts. The situation to me though does seem to put us in the driving seast with Cas if a deal is to be struck.

Enlighten me, how does it possibly put you in the driving seat when you are incredibly desperate to get him?

I suppose what he meant was, you don't want him back and certainly don't want to pay his wages, these could be better spent elsewhere, that puts you in a bad position, whereas we could get a fullback from anywhere.
We don't have to have Mathers and we certainly only want him on our terms.

think he'll train with wakey till a deal is sorted out.
Also think Wakey will have to pay compensation, but it'll just be a token effort, ad we obviously don't want him, and he doesn't want to play for us.

Really?
Why on earth would Cas expect compensation for a player they clearly don't want?

Would be interesting if we just said to Ritchie, "nah, your staying here this season". Then arranged for Basil & Ritchie to be locked in a room together for a day. If it doesn't work, then no dramas, we've got the model pro in Jordan Tansey ready & waiting.

Because he's still under contract so if you want him you pay for him, even if it's just a Mars bar.

Mini Mars bar, what you say is true but we could send him back and you could pay him, is it 90k well spent.

Transfer fee. He's still under contract and Cas could almost certainly use him in the team.

He was under contract last season, you compensated us by half his wages.
By my reckoning you owe us a snickers at the very least.
Can't see any comp, mutual agreement we either he remains on loan (costs you) or you release him and he signs for whoever on less money.

Sometimes I think you inhabit a parallel universe to everyone else.
Millward hates him, Owen is going to be the next england fullback.
If your so keen keep him, pay his wages, never play him, we'll move on and sign someone else.
It really isn't a problem (for us).

With the way I heard that Millward treated Ritchie mathers, Ritchie wouldn't be seen in the same room as him, and neither would I. What a nasty little goblin.

I think it is true little men are the most arrogant.

Actually, you're paying more than half his wages.

As for your other post, is there anywhere that proves that Millward "hates" Mathers or is that something you've just conjured up based on RM's departure on loan from Cas this season?

If Millward has any sense the first thing he'll be doing his seeing how RM can add experience and depth to the backline and thrash this out ahead of the new season. With only Dixon, Carney and Clare to cover the wings, having Owen as a third winger would be hugely beneficial. That would free up Tansey to cover 6 behind Rangi and Ellis.

You say it isn't a problem...but how many experienced decent quality full-backs are there out there on a free you're able to snare, if you believe that a new FB is key? Not many.

Cas could release Mathers purely for the salary cap space but that would almost certainly be reliant on us finding a replacement I would say.

We've hopefully still got Sykes, then there is Cockayne. No dramas.
Like I said the problems are all Cas's, is Mildred going to lose more face with the players by bringing Mathers back or does he want the extra wage of a non playing player on the salary cap?

We were informed Wakey were paying more than half at a Supporters Club event, I believe. HTH. I have been to so many meetings forgive me as I can't remember which one. Might have been Meet the Coaches.

Nothing to do with Owen being good enough; it's about depth and a replacement for Mathers would almost certainly be a three-quarter/winger. Rhys Williams would probably be most likely.

But if we're going for depth then someone like Mathers would be beneficial. Like I said, Owen could go on to wing with Carney. He wouldn't be non-playing.

Come on, we've had enough mathers abuse now, let it go.

Because he's contracted to us!

Let him go back to you, and then you will have to pay ALL of his wages. That is why Wakey are in the driving seat. We could just say "back to you", and in which case, you've got a player you don't want eating up money you don't have, and a big space on the cap. Or we get him on our terms.

Oh yeah I'm sure he can't wait to get back playing in front of the fans who abused him earlier this year, rejoin a club he was told he wasn't good enough for, who then promptly finish joint bottom whilst he plays playoff football!

Oh the glory, one more game in a season and playing in more losing games than winning ones.

Showed us

The facts remain.