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| Following this morning's developments, Wakefield can now rest assured that they will be granted another franchise.
We need something positive. Fast.
Anyone remember the disclaimer at the last announcement re: what would happen within the 3-years to clubs not fulfilling their promises?
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| I would imagine RW will be typing his congrats message to WTW about now - quickly followed by a mail-media statement regarding our position.
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| Don't think Wakey are certain for a franchise - what if the rfl cut the league to 12, to 10?
As for us, I don't envisage anything too positive ground wise for a while yet.
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| New signings...
New stadium...
New Chief Exec...
Anything would be welcome at the minute
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| Quote ="Towns88"Don't think Wakey are certain for a franchise - what if the rfl cut the league to 12, to 10?
As for us, I don't envisage anything too positive ground wise for a while yet.'"
Deary me that's a straw clutch.
Yes I suppose it doesn't, however assuming it happens (the stadium) then it puts us above Bradford, Castleford and possibly HKR in terms of Stadium - whilst defeating Salford, London on crowds whilst equalling them on Stadia.
I hate all this franchise stuff and am not gloating, hell I'm still not sure I believe it yet.
But as I say if all is above board and happens to schedule then we are in for a 14 or 12 team league, whilst a 10 team league is just thicko Peacocks wet dream - then sorry but it's a huge leap for us.
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| Quote ="vastman"Deary me that's a straw clutch.
Yes I suppose it doesn't, however assuming it happens (the stadium) then it puts us above Bradford, Castleford and possibly HKR in terms of Stadium - whilst defeating Salford, London on crowds whilst equalling them on Stadia.
I hate all this franchise stuff and am not gloating, hell I'm still not sure I believe it yet.
But as I say if all is above board and happens to schedule then we are in for a 12 team league, whilst a 10 team league is just thicko Peacocks wet dream - then sorry but it's a huge leap for us.'"
Agree with Vastman on all point!!!
We have taken a huge leap, and TBH this conversation should be on our forum (apolgies) but it is hugely valid.
If SL is going to 12, we have given ourselves a very realistic chance of being in it, our club has changed hugely in the last 18 months and continues to, and could as Vastman suggests be putting ourselves well up the order, something prior to the demise of the old regime i didn't think would be possible.
You guys need to pull a rabbit, and i mean that sincerely!!
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| What because you have planning permission now? so your in the same block as us, planning permission but nothing built,
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| Quote ="vastman"Deary me that's a straw clutch.
Yes I suppose it doesn't, however assuming it happens (the stadium) then it puts us above Bradford, Castleford and possibly HKR in terms of Stadium - whilst defeating Salford, London on crowds whilst equalling them on Stadia.
I hate all this franchise stuff and am not gloating, hell I'm still not sure I believe it yet.
But as I say if all is above board and happens to schedule then we are in for a 14 or 12 team league, whilst a 10 team league is just thicko Peacocks wet dream - then sorry but it's a huge leap for us.'"
sort of agree, but how do you beat Hull KR, when at present they are upgrading their stadium?
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| Quote ="Speedy"What because you have planning permission now? so your in the same block as us, planning permission but nothing built,'"
Without getting into another tedious battle, we also have funding in place or at least that's what the DE was willing to accept - until you dispose of WR you don't. Hence he leap.
However until it's built I remain only cautiously optimistic , but content we are moving forward.
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| Quote ="picasso1"sort of agree, but how do you beat Hull KR, when at present they are upgrading their stadium?'"
I'm basing that on the plans I've seen - ours will be 100% new whilst HKR is part older part new and only a three sided ground for now. I's marginal but then franchise is - also they can do them for that too near another club one unless that's been dropped.
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| Quote ="vastman"I'm basing that on the plans I've seen - ours will be 100% new whilst HKR is part older part new and only a three sided ground for now. I's marginal but then franchise is - also they can do them for that too near another club one unless that's been dropped.'"
Isn't it just 12000 capacity and 5000 covered seats the stadium criteria? If so it doesn't really matter if KR only have 3 sides if that is the case.
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| Quote ="vastman"Without getting into another tedious battle, we also have funding in place or at least that's what the DE was willing to accept - until you dispose of WR you don't. Hence he leap.
However until it's built I remain only cautiously optimistic , but content we are moving forward.'"
No battle to be had, Good luck to you and your stadiium, but all i was saying is that you are now back level with cas regarding planning permission, your funding i believe is dependant on so many B8 units being sold before this happens, as ours requires the sale of the stadium before we can proceed
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| Quote ="Speedy"No battle to be had, Good luck to you and your stadiium, but all i was saying is that you are now back level with cas regarding planning permission, your funding i believe is dependant on so many B8 units being sold before this happens, as ours requires the sale of the stadium before we can proceed'"
They don't have planning permission yet, they can apply for it now though, right?
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Agree with Vastman on all point!!!
We have taken a huge leap, and TBH this conversation should be on our forum (apolgies) but it is hugely valid.
If SL is going to 12, we have given ourselves a very realistic chance of being in it, our club has changed hugely in the last 18 months and continues to, and could as Vastman suggests be putting ourselves well up the order, something prior to the demise of the old regime i didn't think would be possible.
You guys need to pull a rabbit, and i mean that sincerely!!'"
We prefer to leave that sort of thing to the Cappers....but I get your drift.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"They don't have planning permission yet, they can apply for it now though, right?'"
not sure tbh,
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| To be honest you should be wanting this Stadium to happen. What happens if you don't get yours built at least there will be an option to use the community stadium until you build your own thus keeping your superleague status. If it had been the other way round and we had to stay at Glasshoughton until we could find our own stadium then so be it i would say.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Isn't it just 12000 capacity and 5000 covered seats the stadium criteria? If so it doesn't really matter if KR only have 3 sides if that is the case.'"
True, I was mearly pointing out that ours was a better stadium design wise - I don't know but I suspect the two older stands at HKR may be a bit lacking by modern standards - however how relevant that is I don't know.
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| Why not just build one big ground, put Cas, Fev and Wakey together and....oh wait!!!!
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| Quote ="Gronk!"They don't have planning permission yet, they can apply for it now though, right?'"
Wrong, we already had outline planning permission granted by Wakefield Planning dept - it was then pulled in for a review by the DE which has now rubber stamped it.
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| I think he meant FPP??
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| Quote ="kinleycat"I think he meant FPP??'"
Oh I see, did anyone say we had
But correct, no we don't.
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| Quote ="supercat"To be honest you should be wanting this Stadium to happen. What happens if you don't get yours built at least there will be an option to use the community stadium until you build your own thus keeping your superleague status. If it had been the other way round and we had to stay at Glasshoughton until we could find our own stadium then so be it i would say.'"
It would be interesting to see how the RFL dealt with bids in which both Wakey and Cas stated an intention to play at NM...especially for a 12 club league.
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A statement from Dickie.
www.castigers.com/article.php?id=2337
Nothing new to be said. I thought we were at an advanced stage with signing this supermarket deal? Also i thought Dickie had resigned?
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A statement from Dickie.
www.castigers.com/article.php?id=2337
Nothing new to be said. I thought we were at an advanced stage with signing this supermarket deal? Also i thought Dickie had resigned?
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| Bit of a disappointing response really, but there again I would not have expected anything else to be said at the moment. There is nothing in the statement that has not been said before, and the clock is ticking. We need some definite news asap and certainly before the end of the season. I suppose it depends on the supermarkets concerned and how fast they are moving.
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| Taken from the report by the planning inspector in regards to why we should as RW suggested share GH:
"Whilst the Glasshoughton site may have planning permission there is no money to build it, nor any proposed enabling development. It is not viable or deliverable and no one suggests that it is, not even Castleford Tigers themselves"
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