I feel the need to start a new thread as the Cas Wakey thread will now degenerate into childs play and not even worth reading...my Dad is bigger than your dad.

The sickening thing about tonight is that we didn't learn from last week. Matterson said - 'let this be a wake up call to all of us'. I have walked away with someone that drove back and forth to London last week to see the same team throw away another game. I have walked up Wheldon Road with people that have said they aren't going to Saints...but they intended to before they witnessed that.

We read the spiel about lets get 10k in the ground, we read the Twitters from players that say the same and we fly a legend across the world to witness that. We build ourselves up, momentum, hope...the crowd turn up. Then...bad attitude, lazyness...for the 2nd week running. Mentally weak. We have a backer in Feisal, things going well off the field and the players have let us down tonight.

We have had a great start, beyond our wildest expectations. Maybe we thought that our attitude had changed for the better. Warrington go to Salford today and win 60-0. That is attitude. That is professionalism.

As if we needed an incentive, we would have gone top. Our attitude changed and lifted when we were behind. We got stuck in and lifted the intensity. Why wait until we are behind ?

So disappointing. If we had been in a battle and lost out then so be it, yet for me we didn't even hit top gear. Lazy and bad attitude, our players are becoming as arrogant as some of our fans.

That is game one of Easter and the players will have to go to Saints now with a lot less support than they would have had. The support that they had won back, they will now have to try and win back again.

We didn't turn up in the second half but Wakefield did. It was certainly a game of two halves and we'll have to learn from this as Wakefield did not look like they were at the bottom tonight. I congratulate Wakefield on not giving up.

The problem I have with the second half tonight is it isn't the first time a side coached by Matterson has collapsed like that - how many times over the years have you seen Cas take a lead just to throw it away and lose narrowly, it was a big problem last year and it looks like it's starting to creep back in with the throw away draw against Quins and tonights debacle.

Wait until Monday at Saints and then Friday home to Leeds. We'll see what character is there for those games.

How did James Child do tonight?

You should have no problems against us on Monday night. We can't field a first team. We are dipping into the u20s just to put bodies on the park. We only have one half back. I've no doubt we will work hard but you should run riot in Widnes.

It was always going to be a challenge for us with you in the kind of form you have been this season, but I think our match with you on Monday is one step too far for us.

I hope you're being nice and not sarcastic.

Your team have this habit of putting 50 points plus on us so that's a concern. If we do beat you on Monday I'll be happy but surprised.

I didn't go, or listen to it. I just know how shocking he was in Cardiff.

Alright if you're a Wakey fan. Gave Cas nothing all night and I literally mean that. Pen count was Cas not very many, Wakefield lots.

I am frustrated, angry, disgusted, fuming and not just at the referee. The players played their part in the loss. Just a shocking display all around.

He did a lot better; seemed to have a bee in his bonnet about crossing tonight - both sides got penalised a fair few times for that. Otherwise, I don't think either side could cry foul on the refereeing front.

Think it was something stupid like 2-2 or 3-2 for penalties for crossing



Touch judge should have spotted Griffin being offside for his try though

TBH how many times has something like this happened... and I don't just mean recently? We run into a bit of form, we go out against a team lower than us in the table and end up faffing about and losing the game. What matters now is Monday and Friday.

The referee didn't really have a bearing on the result.

For me, it was all about attitude. Wakefields was better than ours and I can find no reason whatsoever why that may be. We should not lose any game, especially at home when you can go top of the league when the opposition, whoever it may be, show a bigger desire to do the hard work.

Think we got 3 pens wakey got plenty but its not the ref who misses the tackles or drops the ball. I have never seen owen drop the ball as much as he did tonight and Brett Ferres didn't exactly shine.

No, we didn't do ourselves any justice with the mistakes.

Whoever passed it to Owen when he had three men inside him, needs a good rollocking. I thought it was Ferres but my brother said Dixon.

Backs to the wall, written off by the whole RL community, Adam Watene trophy; need any more?

It was Ferres. If we had got that try i think we would have kicked on but instead we made stupid mistakes and allowed them to get their head up.

Something else that wound me up we allowed them to score from dummy half same as we did with quins last week - for god sake basic rugby get low down so that they can't ground the ball







Rant over

well played wakey
Cas you need to wake up

Never mind, lets all get round to McGoldrick's for a few beers and a dance, that should take our mind off it...

Pathetic tonight, all credit to Wakey and certainly to John Kear who finds us out time and time again, but I am just so tired of losing to them in these games. They had the bragging rights when we were sh*te and they sent us down and they STILL have the bragging rights when they are on their ar$e and we are supposedly 'flying high'. Gutted.

Having watched Wakefield for many years I would like to take my hat off to you guys for being so magnanimous in defeat this can I tell you I wasn’t expecting. HATS OFF TO YOU CAS FANS.

The referee was abysmal, Wakey were crap. We woz robbed!

It was dixon who threw that shocker to owen when hudson was inside. I cant believe we have messed up like this again.

However i would take 7 wins and a draw from 10 but with saints, Leeds and wire next i think were gunna be back in the mix with teams like bulls and catalan. Threw 3 points away now. We SHOULD be on 18 points (4wins off play offs) but once we get to 24points in a game we get lazy.

What a poor display i feel totaly deflated after watching that. What should have been a great night back to the top of the league turned into a Wildcat wonder show 20 points up in the second half and then just to stop playing. what were they thinking? ( Saints, Leeds certanly not about the game tonight )We can't even blame the ref though the last try was 4 yards off side we should never have been in that position.I wonder if we will be getting half our hard earned money back as the team never showed up for the second half.

Come on CAS no excusess on monday!!!! there must be plenty left in the tank after that.

You can ALWAYS blame the ref!! I thought your first try was from a forward pass, and your second he was held up!

Second half you bombed at least two tries 'cos Owen over-ran his centre.

At 24-4 we were coasting. Everyone in the ground (at least the general feel anyway) was that Cas had this in the bag. The players felt it, the fans felt it probably only Kear and the Wakey team still hadn't given up. At this point it should have been game over but we all know it wasn't. One person in the ground that I know of, apart from myself already predicted that Cas were about to collapse. My little lad said to me at 24-4, "dad, this is just like Quins again!". Yes this was before we'd started to let in tries. This was before Wakey had started their comeback. I don't know what is worse about our defeat. The way we lost a 20 point lead, the team we lost it to or the fact that no one on or off the pitch for Cas did anything about it.

My son for coach, he's 10!