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| please read cos i thought it was 1 up 1 down
Strong case
Like Widnes, Halifax were rejected for a license in 2008, but the reigning Championship title holders think they have made a strong case for a return to Super League, where they played from 1996-2003.
"Everyone is saying that Widnes are favourites but not every favourite wins, do they," club director Mike Riley said.
"Our bid is every bit as good and I would say better, given our performances on the field over the last couple of years."
The licenses will be decided upon by the RFL's five-strong independent board of directors, with specialist contributions from external agencies such as Savills and KPMG.
All existing Super League clubs must submit their applications for new licenses by close of business on Thursday. The full make-up of the league will be revealed on July 26, with two existing clubs possibly being jettisoned to make way for a second Championship club.
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| Is that bottom part for real???
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| go on the skysports website and read it if that is the case we should be worried
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| Quote ="cas all the way"Is that bottom part for real???'"
Probably not, it seems to have snowballed from some "journalist" making it up to it now being fact...when Richard Lewis said a month or 2 back it's 1 up 1 down.
Quote ="mallcmjlm100"go on the skysports website and read it if that is the case we should be worried'"
I wouldn't be, it's just a throw away line to get hits and create debate, it will be 1 up 1 down.
Also, even the RFL aren't dumb enough to throw a team out up the top end of the table, so if the lads keep it up then they wont.
Oh and a replacement for Matterson if he decides to go has been set AND the club are interested in/talking to 2 Wests players for next year.
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| Very worried. Have we submitted our application?
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| i really hope so gaslight
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| Quote ="cas all the way"Very worried. Have we submitted our application?'"
Doesn't have to be in until tomorrow.
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| Yeh but get it in sooner it will show we want it more. Knowing Cas it won't be ready until last minute. Or we will miss deadline.
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| who is the replacement is it noble by any chance if matterson goes
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| Quote ="mallcmjlm100"who is the replacement is it noble by any chance if matterson goes'"
Nope, far better and an Aussie. The only problem is with nothing being agreed Hull FC may take him if Agar gets fired mid-season.
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| heard its mr noble by alot of fans
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Probably not, it seems to have snowballed from some "journalist" making it up to it now being fact...when Richard Lewis said a month or 2 back it's 1 up 1 down.
I wouldn't be, it's just a throw away line to get hits and create debate, it will be 1 up 1 down.
Also, even the RFL aren't dumb enough to throw a team out up the top end of the table, so if the lads keep it up then they wont.
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Of course it's the case, it's always been that the case that 2 could come up. The RFL have said it originally and repeated it consistently. Just like the long running Glasshoughton project, your in complete denial about the reality of the current situation!
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| Like rats are Wakey fans never more than 2 feet away from a franchise/stadium thread...always the same 3 morons too.
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| Quote ="cas all the way"Yeh but get it in sooner it will show we want it more. Knowing Cas it won't be ready until last minute. Or we will miss deadline.'"
I would rather we use the maximum time allowed to make sure we've included everything, gone through it methodically and ensured that all points are included.
Who knows what could happen tomorrow?
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Nope, far better and an Aussie. The only problem is with nothing being agreed Hull FC may take him if Agar gets fired mid-season.'"
Wow, you're good. Matterson's not even announced he's going and you've already got rid of his spot.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Like rats are Wakey fans
never more than 2 feet away from a franchise/stadium thread...always the same 3 morons too.
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would keep us clean rather quickly too
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Would be just on your own by the end of it mate.
As much as you hate it, least the Wakefield fans such as deeHell give us something to talk about on here. Alright, they may have scared off the other Cas fans with their contributions but, oh well.
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| Quote ="Fully"Would be just on your own by the end of it mate.
As much as you hate it, least the Wakefield fans such as deeHell give us something to talk about on here. Alright, they may have bored the other Cas fans with their constant repeating of the same garbage but, oh well.'"
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| Quote ="deeHell"Of course it's the case, it's always been that the case that 2 could come up. The RFL have said it originally and repeated it consistently. Just like the long running Glasshoughton project, your in complete denial about the reality of the current situation!
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I doubt that but can envisage a scenario where it might now be the case.
What if Widnes's bid is not as good as Halifax's and it's inferiority would be apparent under the spotlight of any legal challenge? Would the RFL run scared, award Fax the first license and select Widnes in July at the expense of 2 current SL clubs. Excluding both Wakey and Crusaders for entering administration would appear equitable and avoid the possibility of a challenge by whichever of the two might have been the single club to be chopped.
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| If the RFL are to keep any credibility then both Cas and Wakey should go, both have had letters about the state of there grounds and the RFL have stated that any grounds not ready by 2012 will not be taken into consideration. So however much spin is put on it by dickie Wright the bottom line is GH will not be taken into consideration. Leigh have a superb new stadium, as do Widnes, as for the Shay if the remedials are completed in time for July they have a great facility. They have also stated that the 2 clubs that miss out today will be assessd along with the other super league clubs. If i was a cas fan i would be very worried
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| I thought it was very interesting on boots n all that the Widnes chairman gave alot of focus on their licence app to the youth development that the club had done and that this was very important to the RFL. Halifax's mentioned their stadium and community work but nothing about youth system and this is where I think they are weak.
Yes we all know we fail on the stadium side but other than that IMO we are stronger in all other areas. If we get kicked out purely on the stadium then the whole process is a farce (which we know it is anyway) and we may as well not play against each other on the field but have the final league table listed in order of nicest stadium !!
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| Quote ="WallTiger"I thought it was very interesting on boots n all that the Widnes chairman gave alot of focus on their licence app to the youth development that the club had done and that this was very important to the RFL. Halifax's mentioned their stadium and community work but nothing about youth system and this is where I think they are weak.
Yes we all know we fail on the stadium side but other than that IMO we are stronger in all other areas. If we get kicked out purely on the stadium then the whole process is a farce (which we know it is anyway) and we may as well not play against each other on the field but have the final league table listed in order of nicest stadium !!'"
The prcocess is making the whole sport a laughing stock, but if the RFL keep there word which will be a 1st then Cas and Wakey are going
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| Quote ="gingdong"If the RFL are to keep any credibility then both Cas and Wakey should go, both have had letters about the state of there grounds and the RFL have stated that any grounds not ready by 2012 will not be taken into consideration. So however much spin is put on it by dickie Wright the bottom line is GH will not be taken into consideration. Leigh have a superb new stadium, as do Widnes, as for the Shay if the remedials are completed in time for July they have a great facility. They have also stated that the 2 clubs that miss out today will be assessd along with the other super league clubs. If i was a cas fan i would be very worried'"
No, if the RFL were to have any credabillity they would get rid of 2 of Wakey and Crusaders. I'm not like a lot of people on here who wish ill of Wakey and to be honest it's a massive shame whats happened over there IMO but surely the 2 clubs who deserve to be relegated are the 2 sides who have been in administration in the last 3 years (crusaders twice F F S)?
I dont know why people have any hostillity towards Widnes or Fax infact i think they both deserve licenses. But if Cas are thrown out before Crusaders i'd love to see how it's going to be justified.
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| Quote ="Mr Cas"No, if the RFL were to have any credabillity they would get rid of 2 of Wakey and Crusaders. I'm not like a lot of people on here who wish ill of Wakey and to be honest it's a massive shame whats happened over there IMO but surely the 2 clubs who deserve to be relegated are the 2 sides who have been in administration in the last 3 years (crusaders twice F F S)?
I dont know why people have any hostillity towards Widnes or Fax infact i think they both deserve licenses. But if Cas are thrown out before Crusaders i'd love to see how it's going to be justified.'"
The clause regarding admin has been taken out the clause regarding stadia has not only been amended now there is no limit on ground capacity
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| Quote ="gingdong"The clause regarding admin has been taken out the clause regarding stadia has not only been amended now there is no limit on ground capacity'"
Well that shows what a farce it is really.
I dont think any games should be played next season, teams should just be awarded on how nice the seats are in the ground and the playing surface.
Then for the Grand Final just get Eddie and Stevo to taste a burger at each of the grounds to decide the winner
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| Quote ="gingdong"The prcocess is making the whole sport a laughing stock, but if the RFL keep there word which will be a 1st then Cas and Wakey are going'"
No, making stadia requirements the single most important criterion would make the sport a laughing stock.
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