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| [url=http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/rugby-league/wakefield-wildcats-will-consider-groundshare-with-castleford-tigers-2224618.htmlI kid you not[/url
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| I would prefer not to. However if we were to consider i would only want them as our tennants we don't want a repeat of their recent financial problems affecting our future, we don't want anyone taking out mortgages against our ground without anyone knowing would we
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| Why the he'll would we want to help our biggest franchise rivals a massive helping hand to get a franchise. It sounds like this Elston bloke would want a share of our revenue streams. We have put a lot of work into the ground, now Wakie would like to join the party at this late stage after stating they didn't want a part of it. Granted it was different owners. For me the only way we should allow them to join is as tenants. Personally I would tell em to bog off. I know it sounds harsh but our SL survival is at risk. I genuinely hope they get a franchise, but why should they be allowed to just jump on our bandwagon?
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| Knew they'd change their mind sooner or later. Newmarket has hit a brick wall and they're looking for something to grab onto.
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| I never thought it was a good idea when it was first mentioned and nothing i've heard has changed my mind.
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| NO!
Simple as that!
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| Quote ="Therailwayendisuponus."Why the he'll would we want to help our biggest franchise rivals a massive helping hand to get a franchise. It sounds like this Elston bloke would want a share of our revenue streams. We have put a lot of work into the ground, now Wakie would like to join the party at this late stage after stating they didn't want a part of it. Granted it was different owners. For me the only way we should allow them to join is as tenants. Personally I would tell em to bog off. I know it sounds harsh but our SL survival is at risk. I genuinely hope they get a franchise, but why should they be allowed to just jump on our bandwagon?'"
With you all the way
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| If they want to pay an extortionate amount of rent + a fee up front + give up 75% of concession & parking revenue then fine, let em come play, the empty black & amber seats and all the CASTLEFORD signage will be brilliant for them
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| Elston now 'openly admitting' that Newmarket is a questionable option. With wakey a championship side for 3 years and no guarentee of returning to SL why would anyone build a 12k stadium at Newmarket.
If Wakey share Glasshaughton then they will be a championship side and will never retain SL status. Having 2 teams in the same stadium hardly spreads the licences.
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| Not bothered either way. What do the super, world-class team of Wakefield need to do with us? They're a certainty to get a licence according to some of their fan on their forum.
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| I doubt anything will come of this as I think they would rather share with Fev than Cas! This is just Wakey keeping their options open.
What happened to Oakwell anyway?
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| It would be a Polecat Feeder team from the NL1
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| Did anyone bother to read beyond the headline and what the newspaper spin used to catch people's attention?
Read the actual quotes and tell me where JE says anything about sharing at GH.
[urlhttp://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/rugby-league/wakefield-wildcats-will-consider-groundshare-with-castleford-tigers-2224618.html[/url
Is it this bit?:
"I think that any shared facility would have to be in a fairly neutral location."
or this?:
"I think Castleford are well on their way with their planning, but I have no idea when they are planning their build."
or this?:
"The difficult part of that question is if there's no stadium to share, where are we going to play?"
or perhaps here?:
"We need to speak to Castleford, to Featherstone and the council and find out exactly where everybody is and reassess everything, because if we can find out, we can start our stadium build in six months and then move forward."
He's not ruling out the possiblity of sharing, but where is there any suggestion that could be at GH?
Posters onhere have clearly shown how a 'share' at GH could never work for WTW.
Panic over. As you were.
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| Quote ="bigmclargehuge"I doubt anything will come of this as I think they would rather share with Fev than Cas! This is just Wakey keeping their options open.
What happened to Oakwell anyway?'"
Barnsley wanted to £30k a game.... Something Wakey didn't have
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| Quote ="coco the fullback"Did anyone bother to read beyond the headline and what the newspaper spin used to catch people's attention?
Read the actual quotes and tell me where JE says anything about sharing at GH.
[urlhttp://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/rugby-league/wakefield-wildcats-will-consider-groundshare-with-castleford-tigers-2224618.html[/url '"
Yes, but Ted said no way, and the new regime have now NOT ruled it out.
Quote ="coco the fullback"
Is it this bit?:
"I think that any shared facility would have to be in a fairly neutral location."'"
You've obviously never exited the M62 at junction 32. There is more signage to say you're in Wakefield than there is to say you're in Castleford. Wait until they spin you that one...
Quote ="coco the fullback"
or this?:
"I think Castleford are well on their way with their planning, but I have no idea when they are planning their build."'"
Which means that a simple phonecall can set that one straight.
Quote ="coco the fullback"
or this?:
"The difficult part of that question is if there's no stadium to share, where are we going to play?"'"
This is just playing with words. What SL club would ever sell its own stadium before it had somewhere else to go, either of its own or in a definite groundshare agreement?
Quote ="coco the fullback"
or perhaps here?:
"We need to speak to Castleford, to Featherstone and the council and find out exactly where everybody is and reassess everything, because if we can find out, we can start our stadium build in six months and then move forward."
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In other words, as the title of the thread so succinctly put it: "Wakey show interest in Glasshoughton Groundshare."
Quote ="coco the fullback"
He's not ruling out the possiblity of sharing, but where is there any suggestion that could be at GH?'"
As highlighted above
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Posters onhere have clearly shown how a 'share' at GH could never work for WTW. '"
On the contrary, it seems that there is a groundswell of opinion that you could rent our ground.
Quote ="coco the fullback"
Panic over. As you were.'"
No panic, just a discussion.
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| Personally it seems like they're trying to make the club sound like a positive, forward-thinking business, rather than the mess Ted Richardson created. I have no problem with them finally coming around to the idea that Glasshoughton is the best possible location in the entire country for a sports stadium, and I don't mind them putting in money to help us build/run it. We would be mad not to let them play in our stadium.
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| Exactly what Gazemous says, they are trying to look progressive ,they are just trying to score brownie points for the people at Red Hall.
What was that bit about finding out were we, Fev & the council about?....and that bit where we can start on our own build in six months?, how can he put a timescale on something that at the moment is completely out of their hands?
Elston sounds full of it and is trying to distract from our plans which (finally) seem to be dropping into place.
Our B.O.D's should ignore the "look at us" article and continue as planned.
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| It seems worrying that there appears to be no reward within the criteria (perhaps someone can point out if my interpretation is incorrect) for owning and playing in your own stadium, within the area with which the club identifies.
E.g. Wakefield playing in a rented premier sports stadium in Barnsley versus Castleford playing in a club owned old stadium in Castleford, with (one assumes at the time of license allocation) a club owned stadium in Castleford being built. I believe the licensing criteria would score Wakefield stronger on this point which doesn't seem right.
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| Quote ="Bonzo"It seems worrying that there appears to be no reward within the criteria (perhaps someone can point out if my interpretation is incorrect) for owning and playing in your own stadium, within the area with which the club identifies.
E.g. Wakefield playing in a rented premier sports stadium in Barnsley versus Castleford playing in a club owned old stadium in Castleford, with (one assumes at the time of license allocation) a club owned stadium in Castleford being built. I believe the licensing criteria would score Wakefield stronger on this point which doesn't seem right.'"
I agree- if you own your own stadium and its up to scratch (and actually exists) then not only should you score an extra franchise point but the RFL should give you access to more internationals, keeping as much money as possible in RL.
It irks me when fans from other clubs gloat about 'their' shiny stadia when in reality they're nothing more than paying guests. Before you start, yes I know that's where Wakey are headed, but if any club has had the business sense to fund their own stadium they should get recognition for it.
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| Quote ="casman2"Barnsley wanted to £30k a game.... Something Wakey didn't have'"
Didn't have...
But now we do.
I've heard no rumours of 30k a game either so keep bs
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| Quote ="mwildcats"Didn't have...
But now we do.
I've heard no rumours of 30k a game either so keep bs'"
That is why I put didn't have
And there is no rumour, it is fact from the Barnsley BOD, they wanted £30k a game
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| Quote ="casman2"[uBarnsley wanted to £30k a game[/u.... Something Wakey didn't have'"
I assume from your post that you can substansiate your claim by providing a link, thought not
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| Quote ="little wayne69"I assume from your post that you can substansiate your claim by providing a link,
thought not
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30k a game is cheap compared to what some teams get billed for renting a stadium.
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| Quote ="Georgie Best on a Bloomer"You've obviously never exited the M62 at junction 32. There is more signage to say you're in Wakefield than there is to say you're in Castleford. Wait until they spin you that one... '"
Turn right and it says welcome to Pontefract, Turn left and it says welcome to Castleford.......?? No signage at all to say you're in Wakefield?
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