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| Castleford Tigers centre Michael Shenton is the only player added to England coach Tony Smith’s train-on squad for the forthcoming Gillette Four Nations and Gillette Fusion International against Wales.
Shenton, whose team were eliminated from the engage Super League play-offs last weekend, will join the squad for training on Monday when he will join the 13 players named last week.
Further players will be added to the train-on squad throughout the play-offs. Tony Smith will then name his 24-man squad for the Gillette Four Nations at a media conference on Monday October 12.
The England train-on squad in full, with their club and community club where they played as juniors in brackets, is as follows:
Tom Briscoe (Hull FC, Featherstone Lions)
Sam Burgess (Bradford Bulls, Dewsbury Moor)
Garreth Carvell (Warrington Wolves, Stanningley)
Tony Clubb (Harlequins, Greenwich Admirals)
Gareth Ellis (Wests Tigers, Castleford Lock Lane)
Mickey Higham (Warrington Wolves, Leigh Miners)
Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook (Harlequins, Greenwich Admirals)
Adrian Morley (Warrington Wolves, Eccles)
Richard Myler (Salford City Reds, Halton West Bank)
Stefan Ratchford (Salford City Reds, Wigan St Patricks)
Michael Shenton (Castleford Tigers, Upton)
Paul Sykes (Bradford Bulls, Thornhill Trojans)
Danny Tickle (Hull FC, Parkside Golborne)
Ben Westwood (Warrington Wolves, Normanton Knights)
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| No suprise with Shenny. No Westy or Owen though, even for just the train on squad?
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| So 12 players from clubs who aren't good enough to make the playoffs get called up, but only one player from two playoff quality teams is deemed worthy of the train on squad?
Pathetic really...
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| No Wakey players either
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| Quote ="Hughies sister"No Wakey players either'"
That's what really makes it pathetic. In the league season, Wakey were the 5th best team in the competition, but none of their players (Atkins is injured obviously) are worthy of international selection whilst 13 players of teams below them are...
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| Shenton, oh dear. Richard Owen would have been a far better choice considering our wing/fullback options. Saying that our Centre options aint much better.
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| Quote ="Bob-Marley"Shenton, oh dear. Richard Owen would have been a far better choice considering our wing/fullback options. Saying that our Centre options aint much better.'"
Judging by your sig, your opinions on the qualities of players and clubs are pretty questionable
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| Quote ="Gazemous"So 12 players from clubs who aren't good enough to make the playoffs get called up, but only one player from two playoff quality teams is deemed worthy of the train on squad?
Pathetic really...'"
Think Blaymire has been hard done by on that!! Desevered to get in the train on squad at least.
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| Paul Sykes??????
We're obviuosly back to picking mates and favourites rather than players on form again. It's Noble all over again.
BTW, does anybody have the dates and venues handy?
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| Quote ="Bob-Marley"Shenton, oh dear. Richard Owen would have been a far better choice considering our wing/fullback options. Saying that our Centre options aint much better.'"
Oh dear? he's the top centre in sl for scoring tries, despite being starved of the ball for large parts of the season when sherwin was out, and is very solid in defence. Who else was going to get picked? senior has retired, atkins is injured, gleeson has offered nothing in attack all season, pryce has played there in quite a while (and it was never his best position anyway), if sykes can make the train on squad, shenton who is 3 times the centre sykes will ever be has to be above him in the pecking order or we need a new national coach.
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| Quote ="Gazemous"Judging by your sig, your opinions on the qualities of players and clubs are pretty questionable
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In fairness he got 1, 2, 8, 13, 14 right.
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| Quote ="StuMain"www.gillette4nations.co.uk/fixtures.php'"
Cheers Stu...
Gillette Four Nations: Eng V Fra
Friday 23rd October 2009
Gillette Four Nations: Eng V Aus
Saturday 31st October 2009
Gillette Four Nations: Eng V NZ
Saturday 7th November 2009
Gillette Four Nations Final
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| Good news. Well done Shenny!
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| Shenton deserves his place no doubt.
The idea of the train on squad is to keep a group together that could be considered for the last 17.
For me, especially after Atkins is not available, you'd be hard pressed to find someone better.
I'd say Owen and Westerman....and to be honest Ferguson at Trinity are unlucky not to be in but are probably in a more competitive position.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Shenton deserves his place no doubt.
The idea of the train on squad is to keep a group together that could be considered for the last 17.
For me, especially after Atkins is not available, you'd be hard pressed to find someone better.
I'd say Owen and Westerman....and to be honest Ferguson at Trinity are unlucky not to be in but are probably in a more competitive position.'"
Would you say that ferguson is the most promising youngster at wakey? i've been very impressed with george this season. Took alot of work to stay in for his first try against catalans on sat. If he can stay injury free (has had knee problems i believe) he will pull on an england shirt one day.
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| Quote ="pyeman"Would you say that ferguson is the most promising youngster at wakey? i've been very impressed with george this season. Took alot of work to stay in for his first try against catalans on sat. If he can stay injury free (has had knee problems i believe) he will pull on an england shirt one day.'"
Playing 1st team rugby?? Yes, by far....his work rate is top notch and is developing when attacking, and already has a very good eye when it comes to the final ball, although is not given the opportunity (understandably when we have brough) to use it much at the mo!
George could (if can stay fit) become a very good winger, although l think longer term he will be a better centre, someone with pace and natural ability to time his runs and pick the right running angles.
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| Without sounding biased, I can't believe Danny Brough is not in the squad.
I'd have put Westerman and Owen in too, even if they don't play, they would learn a lot from being around the camp.
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| Quote ="charlie"Without sounding biased, I can't believe Danny Brough is not in the squad.
I'd have put Westerman and Owen in too, even if they don't play, they would learn a lot from being around the camp.'"
Depends if Brough is eligible. Thought you had to allow for a year to pass before you were allowed to be considered for new nationality.
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| Quote ="pyeman"Would you say that ferguson is the most promising youngster at wakey? i've been very impressed with george this season. Took alot of work to stay in for his first try against catalans on sat. If he can stay injury free (has had knee problems i believe) he will pull on an england shirt one day.'"
I agree with the "one day" part for George but he isn't there yet. He just hasn't had enough g ame time yet due to injuries.
I think Ferguson would do a good job right now and has more ahead of him.
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| Really pleased for shenny! Ive got a feeling smiths goin to bring the old man back in to partner hall on the left tho, think shenny will b put on the right to tackle his backside off.
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| Quote ="pontytiger#9"Really pleased for shenny! Ive got a feeling smiths goin to bring the old man back in to partner hall on the left tho, think shenny will b put on the right to tackle his backside off.'"
If Senior comes back there won't be a place for Shenton against the Aussies or Kiwis, perhaps France. Shenton isn't better than Gleeson and Smith knows this.
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| We saw this last weekend when Shenton was annonymous while Gleeson popped up places to cause damage.
Tonights game again.. great prospect, needs a couple more kilos on him imo
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