With us playing them in the cup, and the chance to watch the cappers get stuffed I decided to tune in last night.

I thought they were OK, but was expecting a lot more from them with them been unbeaten all season and having a bit of hype about them.

They seem to play a very loose game throwing the ball about to try to create gaps, and they have a good big solid looking pack, who can make good meters, and can play with the ball. I was a little suprised to see Dwayne Barker playing stand off, because I would never of thought he was creative enough to play there, and from what I saw last night nothing has changed that. They do however have good creative players in Ben Black, who was excellent, and Penkewich, who has a lot of experience.

I think it will be a good game when we play them, they'll certainly come full of confidence, but I feel we should win comfortabley.

It was nice to see big Franke Watene playing. He made some good yards, and did a nice little slipped pass to create a try.

Think they need to cut the amount of errors down to avoid being embarassed by you. As you say they were OK! But didn't look too special IMO

Good game which would have been even better without all the penalties, most of which were valid and had to be given unfortunately. Fax look full of points and although they predictably conceded a lot, their goal-line defence actually looked better than I expected. They will probably be quicker/smarter than us around the ruck with Gleeson and Penkiewicz backed up by Black but whether their forwards can give them that essential momentum or cope defensively is doubtful IMO.

They only look faster around the ruck because the game is alot slower in the Championship, we will be faster around the ruck than them

Penalties against, at Championship speed must be a worry for them if we can get a roll on from quick play the balls.

Ben Blacks interception needs to be on video loop in Sione's house with a sticky label saying 'Don't Do This'

See your point.

BUT ... I think the no.9 role has been one of our few weaknesses this season.

Don't expect this to be a popular opinion, yet I feel Hudson was not at his best prior to injury whilst Netherton has not maintained his grear promise displayed in the first few games.

As a means to keep Chase at 6, I'd like to see either: us bring in a back up hooker on loan (McShane from Rhinos?) or develop Owen's game still further - could see him being very sharp around play of the ball area.

Fax will be no walk over, but i feel Cas will win it

Won't be a walk over but when Andy Kain ripped through the line with a little bit of pace it made me smile, if Kain can do that what can Rangi do ?

I don't think Fax will be able to get anywhere near us considering TM wants this cup more than any other.

Fax struggled to contain Tonks (prop) for most of the time he was on the pitch and to a degree Dickenson. So if we use the big lads to get us on a roll can't see many problems.

Cas by a good 20-30 points.

Not with Netherton at dummy half for most of the game. He has definite strengths but seems to be carrying too much weight for a hooker resulting in lack of necessary speed/agility over the prolonged periods we are now having to use him. Thought this was particularly noticeable on Sunday and only late in the game through the likes of Richie Owen did we see the type of runs from dummy half which put us on the front foot and created the space for the winning tries.

I just think your getting carried away with things, yeah netherton might look slow against other SL teams but when he comes up against a Championship team he will look faster, remember if Penkywics (sp) was that good and fast why is he not being snapped up by a SL team?

Netherton in the ruck is still faster then what Halifax have to offer......i know im setting myself up for a mighty crash.....

Believe it or not this is one of Fax's major strengths this season. Other Championship sides know this and try to slow us down by holding down for too long. Because referees are conditioned to the generally slower pace of the Championship they rarely penalise for it. Hopefully with a SL referee the game will flow a lot more quickly.

Barker was playing in the centre last night - the halfs were Black and Penky, then Beswick.

That reminds me:

How's Dwayne going for you?

I watched, there best player was there number 9.

He wasn't very impressive to start with but he now seems to be improving week by week. Scored 6 tries so far.

His drugs ban won't have helped, penky and gleeson are the best 2 hookers out of SL, better than Netherton and one or two more aswell IMO. I don't expect us to win on Saturday but hopefully we'll give you a game and the extra few days rest we've got should help.

You shouldn't put youtube links on RLFANS.

You're pushing the mods to the liimit!

Can't wait for next Saturday. It will be good to be back at a Super League ground again. Eeeeeeeeeee, it'll be like goin to Lundun !!

Good luck this weekend up in Scotland. See you all next week.

Can't they afford a full Kit? There's a player playing without any socks or has the washing machine eaten them like ours does at home?

Non- Super League clubs only have a finite amount of resources. There was one pair short at the start of the season and Said Tamghart couldn't bagsy a pair quick enough on account of his French accent.

Maybe he should offer to put the kit away and then nick a pair like some of our U18's do.

squad summary:

=redread the AUP

have you seen the size of him i'm not suprised we struggled with him a bit.

but i think it wont be as easy for you to beat us as you think there is the underdog thing we have no pressure to win we can just go and play. wde have some big forwards like tamgart and watene and tamgart is a prop that runs straight at and doesnt stop so he will be difficult and with penky in the side when we are close to the line he is dangerous penky is undoubtably super league class.

i think you will win but i think it will be a close one i will go for

cas 30

fax 24