Agree with Grobs. Owen made one bad mistake in the match. Other players also made mistakes (dropped ball, bad discipline, etc). The lad will improve. Did you not see the mistake Mathers made against Widnes, that cost Wakey a try? All players make errors, it's how they respond to them that counts.

Careful bren , this could be seen as trolling by the more paranoid amongst your lot, do you know its not on to have a little jest on your forum ? very sensitive they are

Nah - this is, believe it or not, a grown-up discussion about RL; who'da thunk it?!

Certainly not 'wildthing' thunking is not his forte, i mean he cant lie if hes thunking and of course no movement in the trouser department ..................................

I haven't got a clue what any of that means; is it part of the ongoing sensible discussion, or have you changed your mind about that?

Its just your moderator getting a little stiffy because he calls me a name of someone I know better than most, and the clown thinks I am that person, along with the cas resident mule.

Back on topic , Mathers is a liability and you will see that to your cost sooner or later.