That's it. If we 'championship clubs' vote for this it would be like turkeys voting for Christmas in my opinion.

I'm failing to see any option myself.

it was only 9/10 years ago Hull survived when the 'merged' with Gateshead. That merger was voted by the SL clubs at the time.

Quote from Wigan Chairman Lenagan "All the focus is on the bottom.Whos bothered about the Championship ?"
So its all the little no account Championship Clubs Fault for the Super 8s lack of appeal
The arrogance of the Wigan/Saints & Hull Clubs Chairmen is breathtaking

Whilst I'm not wholly against change, I'm against making changes which take effect at ten minutes' notice.

Also, I note that the HDM piece is heavy on structure and light on financial proposals.

Whilst I disagree with Gary Hetherington on several issues, I do agree that a game-wide strategy for the game needs to be developed instead of picking at it here and there.

Theres the proposal. In other words...sod the Championship and below.

I hadn't seen that post 2021 proposal it's a fecking disgrace...

IF that goes through more than one club will be gone within four years. As I said, turkeys would be voting for Christmas.

No wonder the $uper£eague club's statements are light on financial facts.

Lenaghan need to run his business properly, instead of relying on RFL handouts.

I note, incidentally, that there are no proposals tabled for the Sky money going up.

Robert Elstone should be more confident of his new product.

Exactly, hardly trying to discourage Sky from offering less.

More like an open invitation to your own funeral, crazy talk, crazy approach from the flagship representative and the SL clubs.

Especially given the changes are supposed to make the product better. Hmmm perhaps it isn't the structure that's holding it back after all...

Lions led by Donkeys

Nah, donkeys are useful! Seriously, that's an unbelievably negative document to put out!

On Sky Sports Golden Point at 7pm this evening there was a lot of talk about tomorrows vote.

It was mentioned that what had been heard behind the scenes, some SL clubs had been ringing round their DR partners in the Champ and Champ 1 suggesting, vote for us or you may have to think again about getting any of our players.

Feeder, feeder.

It really is beyond belief that any non SL club could vote for these proposals. If voted through it will be the end of some of the most famous clubs in the game. Shame on the selfish, greedy, individuals who are only interested in their own clubs at the expense of the rest of rugby league.

Have a read of these well written articles by the Bulls Chairman. https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... -for-game/ https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... -big-vote/

Have a read of these well written articles by the Bulls Chairman. https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... -for-game/ https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... -big-vote/

Quote ="Faxlore"Have a read of these well written articles by the Bulls Chairman. https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... -for-game/ https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... -big-vote/'" Absolutely spot on. Read it and weep. I never thought I'd see the day when I agreed with owt coming out of Odsal. These two articles should be made compulsory reading before any club puts their vote in today.

Quote ="Faxlore"Have a read of these well written articles by the Bulls Chairman. https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... -for-game/ https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... -big-vote/'" Absolutely spot on. Read it and weep. I never thought I'd see the day when I agreed with owt coming out of Odsal. These two articles should be made compulsory reading before any club puts their vote in today.

Agree very well written articles. The fact still remains ( as I understand it), with the vote allocation should super league vote together en mass however the C and C 1 huff and puff S/L still have enough votes to carry the proposals.

Not as I understand it. The RFL also has votes as does the amateur game. If us lower and unworthy clubs stick together SL greed will be stuffed.

Excellent articles. It's no wonder the likes of Lenagan want even more money to bail them out of their own mess. The latest Wigan RLFC accounts ……….. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history ……… show that they lost over £400k for the year and are actually insolvent by over £2 million, being propped up by Lenagan Investments Limited whom they owed nearly £6 million as at 30/11/17.

Excellent articles. It's no wonder the likes of Lenagan want even more money to bail them out of their own mess. The latest Wigan RLFC accounts ……….. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history ……… show that they lost over £400k for the year and are actually insolvent by over £2 million, being propped up by Lenagan Investments Limited whom they owed nearly £6 million as at 30/11/17.

Quote ="Fuzzy Duck"Excellent articles. It's no wonder the likes of Lenagan want even more money to bail them out of their own mess. The latest Wigan RLFC accounts ……….. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history ……… show that they lost over £400k for the year and are actually insolvent by over £2 million, being propped up by Lenagan Investments Limited whom they owed nearly £6 million as at 30/11/17.'" Stop whining. It's better than last year, isn't it ? They're going in the right direction.

Quote ="Fuzzy Duck"Excellent articles. It's no wonder the likes of Lenagan want even more money to bail them out of their own mess. The latest Wigan RLFC accounts ……….. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history ……… show that they lost over £400k for the year and are actually insolvent by over £2 million, being propped up by Lenagan Investments Limited whom they owed nearly £6 million as at 30/11/17.'" Stop whining. It's better than last year, isn't it ? They're going in the right direction.

Hope you check every clubs account FD and put it on their Forums