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| Go on then, In Charlie we trust. We know where to find you if not.
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| Quote ="Norman Bates"Go on then, In Charlie we trust. We know where to find you if not.'"
Cheers Norman I have been right once, im sure I have.
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| Same 19 as last week then.
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| Quote ="faxcar"Same 19 as last week then.'" Had to be if all fit.Good luck lads..
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| I've just read that some supporters/sponsors have funded the team to travel down to London tomorrow and stay overnight. What a fantastic gesture and a major boost for our chances on Sunday. Very well done to all concerned. Up The Fax!
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| This game cannot be handicapped either way . Sky bet offering odds of 10/11 each side
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"I've just read that some supporters/sponsors have funded the team to travel down to London tomorrow and stay overnight. What a fantastic gesture and a major boost for our chances on Sunday. Very well done to all concerned. Up The Fax!'"
Hopefully this will make a difference on the plus side Hudds, especially avoiding the even earlier departure time that would have been involved.
As you know previously the team have travelled down on the day and against London and Toronto and it looked like they were still on the bus for much of the games.
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| Quote ="faxcar"Hopefully this will make a difference on the plus side Hudds, especially avoiding the even earlier departure time that would have been involved.
As you know previously the team have travelled down on the day and against London and Toronto and it looked like they were still on the bus for much of the games.'"
Correct faxcar. Even in Toulouse, I don't know what the travelling arrangements were, we got off to a shocker and we need to make sure this dosen't happen tomorrow. The overnight stay is a massive boost for us though, and goes a little way to cancelling out London's advantages. Put that along Fax's team ethic and pretty good form of late and I'm confident that the boys can get the job done. Up The Fax!
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| CHARLIE!!!!!
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| Quote ="Norman Bates"CHARLIE!!!!!'"
Sorry Norman,looking like squeaky bum time next week for Fax , I'm going for a Fax win against Toulouse on Sunday.
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| Whilst I thought we deserved the win, I was really impressed by Halifax resilience and desire to keep the ball alive. I breathe a sigh of relief. The travelling army was great and it was a perfect example of the brilliance of the Championship.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Sorry Norman,looking like squeaky bum time next week for Fax , I'm going for a Fax win against Toulouse on Sunday.
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| So game on now for next Sunday. A must win for Fax, but not for Toulouse as 33 points is enough to qualify and I'm sure they'll easily neat Dewsbury in their last match in France.
I don't think Charlie has really thought this one out because Leigh need Toulouse to beat Fax (or draw) for Leigh to qualify. London beating Fev will almost certainly see London finish on 33, and Fev beating London will put Fev on 32 (same as Leigh) but Fev have a far greater points difference than Leigh. So do the math, Charlie should be cheering Toulouse.
Conspiracy theory ….. will Toulouse "relax" against Fax thinking that they have more chance to progress to SL with Fax being in the top 4 as opposed to Leigh? It will be interesting how Toulouse approach the Fax match, hopefully without the same intensity as us, even though I suppose they owe us one from effectively denying them last season.
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| Last get out of jail card played today and we just got trumped in the end.
Fax need to beat Toulouse and Rochdale for 4th anything else and we’re out of it.
We have 2 home games to do it, it’s in our hands, if we’re good enough great, if not then fair enough.
Leigh will finish on 32 with a good PD so 33 or more is the target.
I will go for Fev at home against London because of home advantage and it will be a cracker and then down to the last game and PD.
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| Quote ="Fuzzy Duck"So game on now for next Sunday. A must win for Fax, but not for Toulouse as 33 points is enough to qualify and I'm sure they'll easily neat Dewsbury in their last match in France.
I don't think Charlie has really thought this one out because Leigh need Toulouse to beat Fax (or draw) for Leigh to qualify. London beating Fev will almost certainly see London finish on 33, and Fev beating London will put Fev on 32 (same as Leigh) but Fev have a far greater points difference than Leigh. So do the math, Charlie should be cheering Toulouse.
Conspiracy theory ….. will Toulouse "relax" against Fax thinking that they have more chance to progress to SL with Fax being in the top 4 as opposed to Leigh? It will be interesting how Toulouse approach the Fax match, hopefully without the same intensity as us, even though I suppose they owe us one from effectively denying them last season.'"
FD I have done the maths, but Clowns were never good at Maths it's just that my tipping is so bad if I tip Fax ,Toulouse will win, seriously though , I don't think Leigh will make the top 4,I've been saying this for a couple of weeks now, after our very poor start to the season we don't deserve to be there, we kept Jukesy on to long.
But I don't think Derek will walk either, we have a great bunch of fans Derek knows this, he loves Leigh and for me he will stay.The end to the season is a great climax, so many ifs and buts ,and maybes ,in an ideal world I would to see Fax Fev and Leigh in the top 4 but we are not in an ideal world.
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| Don't put yourselves down, Charlie, it's been a bizarre split this season where the top 6 have been basically thrashing the bottom 6 and IMO Leigh have only been 2nd to Toronto and got Barrow at the wrong time. Also Leigh were robbed of a point at the Summer Bash when your last minute goal kick was "disallowed" but it went over. So you should really be on 33 at the end. Been such a fine line this season, nobody deserves to be in or out.
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| Certainly a missed opportunity yesterday as we looked like we had them in the second half and probably should have gone on to win the game once we got back within 2 points. Just need to do the business next week and we should be ok. I cant see Fev beating London having seen them both recently, I think Fev need a downpour or something to win that game as they wont live with London on a hot day. Toulouse do not need to win but they will want to wrap up 2nd which they can just about do against us. So many twists and turns in this league and will be even better next year with bradford and York coming up and probably Widnes or Salford coming down who wont be anywhere near as strong as Toronto in this league.
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| GFB is right about the quality of this league next year which means a top four finish for Fax is vital if we want to be able to afford to compete next year. Without the cash being generated this season from prize money I don’t see us being able to bridge the gap as money this year is tight there will be nothing left to carry forward.
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| Quote ="Dbvada"GFB is right about the quality of this league next year which means a top four finish for Fax is vital if we want to be able to afford to compete next year. Without the cash being generated this season from prize money I don’t see us being able to bridge the gap as money this year is tight there will be nothing left to carry forward.'"
It does look like the current squad will pretty much stay together whatever the outcome which is massive but that extra money could really be used to bring in 1 or 2 quality players which can make so much difference as we have seen at the end of this season. We are not far off been the 2nd best team in this league and a couple of star signings could really push us on.
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| Quote ="Fuzzy Duck"Don't put yourselves down, Charlie, it's been a bizarre split this season where the top 6 have been basically thrashing the bottom 6 and IMO Leigh have only been 2nd to Toronto and got Barrow at the wrong time. Also Leigh were robbed of a point at the Summer Bash when your last minute goal kick was "disallowed" but it went over. So you should really be on 33 at the end. Been such a fine line this season, nobody deserves to be in or out.'"
FD I'm not putting Leigh down, we have taken big strides to even get into contention for the top 4,KP has worked wonders,for me we will finish on 32 points ,2 wins against Swinton and Sheff,this week end will reveal all, the Fax V Toulouse, and Fev v London games should be corkers,as you rightly say a great advert for this League and games nobody deserves to lose.
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| Yes, the difference regarding "prize" money is more of concern if we don't qualify. From a fixture prospective, the only opposition I'd look forward to seeing re the Super League teams are Leeds, with Widnes and Salford unlikely to bring hardly any fans and even Hull KR's away support isn't great.
But Toulouse failed to qualify last season yet still managed to carry on where they left off. One of their supporters posted on message on here saying they were financially sound due to a healthy network of sponsors and Toulouse did not have a sugar daddy.
Hopefully if we do fail to qualify, we can still kick on ourselves and build a community atmosphere at the Shay and gradually grow the fan base. We want to be going into these qualifiers with a fighting chance of getting promoted in future years rather than just making up the numbers.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli" a great advert for this League and games nobody deserves to lose.'"
Too right, Charlie, and I think the middle 8s is a great concept. If it means a third of Super League getting relegated, then so be it. It will make BOTH leagues stronger and will even filter down to League 1.
The only downside is that if you don't qualify you're consigned to this absurd end of season Champion Shield that doesn't have the Championship's best 4 teams in it.
I still think a far better idea would be to have the old style top 5 play off, with the GF winners getting promoted and the losing finalists having a play off against the 2nd bottom of Super League. That way you will have 5 interested Championship teams, a definite relegation/promotion and a chance of a 2nd relegation/promotion. Also STOP the season for the other 7 Championship clubs. With the play off having less fixtures than the Middle 8s, then the regular season can be extended (possibly having 14 teams in the league).
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| Quote ="Fuzzy Duck"Yes, the difference regarding "prize" money is more of concern if we don't qualify. '"
I'm not sure it is.
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| Quote ="Fuzzy Duck"
I still think a far better idea would be to have the old style top 5 play off, with the GF winners getting promoted and the losing finalists having a play off against the 2nd bottom of Super League. That way you will have 5 interested Championship teams, a definite relegation/promotion and a chance of a 2nd relegation/promotion. .'"
Snag with that is that it's very difficult for a team gaining promotion via the play-off route to recruit for the following season, being six weeks behind nearly everyone else.
Sure, we had this for a few years between Divs 2 and 3. Batley were in it annually, it seemed.
Did anyone get promoted via the play-off ? No.
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