But surely you put two and two together and make a couple of dozen.

Your advice earlier was to wait and see what comes out of it, I suggest you take your own advice.

What you have to realise is that not everyone in halifax thinks every fev fan is scum.

It was obvious it would kick off if we won and i said the Fev `fans` would be `up for it` with it been a semi and on TV. The pictures and videos taken should be put on here so everyone can judge for themselves and the culprits can be dealt with not hidden away like last time.

Must have different Police vans in Fev, None i have seen in west yorkshire have clear windows in so people can look in/out they have cages in the back of them and NO WINDOWS.

Well reading this forum it does appear that way, i do know the whole incident was also filmed,

I'm not going to get into all of this, because i wasn't there.

But it is starting to get really serious now, and it's not just against us where trouble kicks off..

Every team does have their idiots, we know that, but if that was the sole reason then there would be violence throughout the league..

There were more films/photographs taken last night of the violence I cannot believe there will be no evidence to support convictions for public order offences at the very least. I am aware people were handcuffed by the police and taken away. I am aware that prosecutions are likely.
The bones will be picked over when the dust has settled. There were so many factors from last night to consider and many to act upon - NOW!!
I am heartily fed up of sheeite like this. Last night was a right spectacle of rugby for the neutral and fax fans. We ought to be discussing that - not this sheeite.
I am seriously hacked off today - well down in the dumps - and NOT for the result either. I've seen Fev lose afoore and will do again. But this stuff sickens me.

Offical statement from Fev! www.totalrl.com/forums/index.php ... ifax-rlfc/

Offical statement from Fev! www.totalrl.com/forums/index.php ... ifax-rlfc/

So come on, if you have the footage, you have the power. And don't be coy about this. If you have a film of a light blue/white shirt - don't protect these people under the guise of "it was fev, they were asking for it", get em shopped - regardless of who the were supporting!

Maybe some Fev fans will take their heads out of the sand now and admit the club has a BIG problem now? - Its ok to say it takes 2 to tango (and I agree to a point) BUT the BIG question is why did the Fev fans congreagte in the corner by the Fax fans after the game had ended?? - That is premeditated and demonstrates their readiness and willingness to cause trouble. IMO Its harder to actually walk away than strike back and I don't condone that either and I hope Fax fans involved are dealt with accordingly too but the sad reality is that this is not an isolated incident involving so called "Fev fans". Also isn't this the same plea "Get em Shopped" you are asking mate that we have been crying out for (for 9 months) after the Warrington incident? - I just hope someone has the guts to do what is right.

Chris, for the umpteenth time - the police have had names given to them re the warrington incident. That's a matter of public record. The police are fairly convinced who the perpetrators were on the back of repeatedly being given the same 2 names - but building a case without corroborative evidence that will convinct BEYOND ALL REASONABLE DOUBT, has proven difficult to the point where I now believe a conviction is unlikely.
Don't tell me people haven't shopped them - I know this to be abject cack!!!
Instead of bleatin on an internet forum - speak to the police. State your case - give them the info you know!!!!!

I decided not to post this before the match as emotions were running high as it was but for the Fev fans that feel there is no issue with their "supporters" or that it is not intimidating I would like to tell a short story through the eyes of a 9 year old girl and the effect Fev games have had on her with the sport we love.

2009 league game at home there was a man stood near the drummer (not wearing Fev colours though) looking really angry because his team had just gone behind so i smiled and said cheer up son. He tried to come round and hit me even though I had my child with me and luckily a fax fan saw what was happening and stopped him. My child was upset so we moved straight away and went in the seats when you could transfer.

2009 semi playoff - as a result my child asks for the only time that season if we could sit down for this game so that she "felt safe"

2010 - went away but she was teary throughout the game thinking something would happen especially when we changed ends

2010 final - had to convince my child to go to the final because it was Fev even though she goes home and away promising her there would be no trouble. We get evacuated as you know and she says why are the Fev fans acting like animals trying to get on the pitch to start trouble. She then hears that one of my friends has been punched after the game by a Fev fan who then just ran off (yes it was reported as part of the Dave Singer incident) and then sees Dave on the floor as we return and hears the news.

2011 home - she refuses to go to her first home game for 4 years without good reason only changing her mind when she hears that Fev fans are not allowed in our stand.

2011 away - says for the first time in 4 years she does not want to go to an away game and ask me also to not go as she fears for my safety which I agree to.

2011 semi - i agree not to go myself after she again pleads with me not to go as she fears for my safety so I agree and watch it on TV with her.

Just think this might put it in to perspective for some people on how this can effect the game we love.

and that helps in what way re last nights trouble.
Again, if you have info - get it passed to the police Jacko. Do something to root out this sheeite!

would have stopped any trouble

The only people who can stop this sort of behaviour is the fans themselves , it is ultimatly they who will suffer , in any group of troublemakers there will only be a small number of ' starters ' with usually 3/4 times as many followers , get rid of the starters and the followers will not continue , however the longer this goes on the more ' starters ' you end up with

It is a bloody shame as it was a cracking match and a superb advertisement for our competition

All the best

Its like trying to s into the bleedin wind here, for the umpteenth time no fka is saying Fev havent a problem, but were telling you so have you, your the ones blind to the problem, i saw 2 gangs knocking 7 bells out of each other yesterday, both as bad as each other

The defeat I can take Steve. I watch Fev, it happens! What happened afterwards I can't. Dreadful do all round.

The Clubs board have sent out a clear message on the Clubs site re` after the Fev game clearly condemning any Halifax fans who entered the field of play at the end of the game or who were involved in violence even in retaliation.
Anyone identified with the violence will be banned from the club.
A clear message to all thankfully our board will show Featherstone how to react to bad behaviour at rugby matches.
I did not go last night as I have witnessed Fev fans on previous occasions and also know other clubs have had problems down there, however on reading Matt Callands call for everyone to go I nearly relented.I am so glad that reflecting on it we decided against as on the day we knew we would not get on a coach and we have a FAX number plate making our car a sitting duck. Plus having to rely on Fev to keep us safe did not seem a good option , how right we were .
I will never again enter that ground and if all opposing fans did that they would just be left with themselves to fight over. Anyone still deciding to go till it gets sorted out has every right to follow their team but at what cost.

You are more blind than Roy Orbison in a cave. Fax fans were celebrating a great win and reaching our 1st NRC Final. Fev fans felt the need to still be in the ground a FULL 5 mins after the hooter had gone and to gather at the end Fax were gathered, Why not leave?, Why the need to gather a collective group of 30+ fans together after the game? We have our share of idiots but I'm incensed by your blindness to some of your "so called" fans inability to accept defeat instead choosing to incite trouble? When provoked nature is to attack back.......Wrong in itself but its human nature, animal instinct if you like. Yet again though your fans choose to push, prod, abuse and intimadate.

What were the fax fans supposed to do, stand their and get belted. That mob of Fev fans were intent on causing trouble, the stewards were bloody useless, half of them couldnt even get over the pitch barrier. It was like a scene from The Football Factory, tell you what if I had been smacked by a fev fan I'd have smacked them back as I was minding my own business watching a game, not trying to cause trouble or start, so I'd be in my rights to defend myself.

I'm sure there were some fax fans who were glad for the confrontation and the chance to kick off but not half as many as the fev fans and you didnt see our lot walking round to the fev fans and starting.

We won, we cheered then wanted to leave, we were then confronted by a large party of fev fans intent on causing trouble.

Lastly and it's been mentioned on here already, why wasnt there 1 member of the police at the ground, common sense surely, a semi, the history, surely it ticks all the boxes and then some for potential trouble. Some folk who work at Fev rugby need to take a common sense course.

FYI - I have spoken to the police and told them what i know/saw. Which was a group of young men I identified as being part of the Fev group (due to flat caps being warn) some tops off, some t-shirts etc (No Fev shirts) hurling abuse, intimidating people, threatening violence etc, etc. Like many that evening I have a loose recollection of their "physical" appearance but gave the police what I know in terms of their vacinity to the scene, coach etc, etc. If it was my brother, friend, family member etc that had committed the crime I would shop them FULL STOP. A senior police officer told me a confession of this sort (with statement) would be enough to bring a charge to those involved. So don't tell me they have been "shopped as they haven't. There were up to a dozen in that group who were involved in David's incident yet only 2/3 were actually involved in the assault. Giving a name is very different to someone coming forward and admitting to being at the incident and given a statement. Someone is protecting these cowards hence why no conviction is forthcoming and the reason the police is unable to act. All they need is a statement from one of the "crowd" involved. That's where my anger comes from so please stop preaching to me about this and that.

I agree this is a decisive message from our club and I think this is the best way to approach this.

I also respect your decision never to go to POR again, that is entirely your choice,

But.

Never is a long time. This sends a message that no matter how Featherstone deal with it you will never go back. I am not sure that this is the correct way to approach this. I personally will not be deterred from going to watch my team in any ground and I have never had to suffer any personal abuse from any Featherstone fans (I am not saying that it doesnt go on), in fact I have had some good banter with their fans. Yes, I have complained about the level of the language from their fans and that has made me stop taking my granddaughter, but it does not deter me from going.

My mind is cast back to the Hull problems and that club took the problem by the horns, and the next time I went to the Boulevard I was met by Hull fans who welcomed me to the ground, yes the banter was as vicious as previous, but it was just that, banter and once the game was done it was done.

I personally hope that the Featherstone club do get a grip of it, because if away fans stop going it will just send them on a downward spiral, and will also probably hurt all championship clubs, as once they see the crowds dwindle they will also stop travelling, hurting our takings. Its a lose-lose situation, which is no good for anyone.

I hope we have the opportunity to play them in the play offs this year, and I hope it is a daytime match that Dave Singer can go to. His attitude towards the Featherstone club is an absolute inspiration and it would be good to see him at Post Office Road.

A clear case from both clubs of closing the stable door after the horse has bolted if you ask me. I cant believe both clubs didnt see this coming and do something about it a long time ago.

and of course the alternative argument is that Fax fans were goading and inciting Rovers fans, including entering the field of play (on film) and obsenely gesticulating towards rovers fans,(on film) a Fax fan lashed out at a Fev fan (who I accept should have just bug_gered off home) and then it all kicked off. Some Fax fans were arrested.
Some of the above is correct. Some of it is what some Fev fans (right minded souls not involved in the bother) purport to have witnessed Chris. I'm not niaive to believe it was as simplistic as that. Just the notion that one man's experience may be diametrically opposed to another man's.

And that kind of leads to what gingdong's less than subtle way of making a point is.
i.e. I'm sodding Hacked off to the point of saying "is it worth it anymore"? I know we have a problem at Fev. Ging dong (sod it - it's suggy) acknowledges that too!
What I and he have a problem is - that whilst the greater problem to be sorted lies with the Fev club, Fev fans are vilified (and the sh_1thouse that were involved in the bother deserve it), but that Fax fans (some of whom were arrested) are in some way excused this vilification. If you get involved in this sheeite - you deserve arresting, prosecuting and banning from all sports grounds for LIFE!!! - regardless of their team!

Perhaps, like me, rightminded folk who run the clubs didn't want to believe it could happen! When, unfortunate.... of course it could - and did!
Ballache GFB! Absolute ballache!!

I agree wholeheartedly Robin and I equally condone any Fax fans involvement. My indignation though is why oh why are we here again nearly a year after an incident that has changed a mans life forever who was also so very close to not being on this mortal coil any longer. Your club missed a chance then (As did we for the home game this year too in my opinion). The steps your club recently made were way too little and way too late and flawed. My worry is relations between the two sets of fans are beyond repair now and become an annual free for all. For this reason I will not EVER step foot in Featherstone or POR again.

Fair do's Chris. A person's assessment of their own safety is their's to make and it is wrong of me to try and persuade otherwise unless I seriously believe your judgement is flawed.
All I can see is Fax fans staying away from POR and Fev fans saying sod it to going to the shay!
Our clubs will have to lessen their budgets by that amount. Not a lot in real terms but as margins at championships clubs are so tight it's bound to have an impact.
Still, safety & security trumps income any day of the week.