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| Well done on the win serious question how many d/r players did you have on Sun ?
Hope you make it to Toronto
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| Quote ="FevGrinder"As people who know me know that I really dislike DR, but to be honest where I’m sat in Toulouse, it is anything but embarrassing.'"
Regardless of DR and how Rovers go against Toronto, Fev were my pick for team of the year even before they beat Toulouse.
Well done the cappers on a great season.
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| Quote ="bentleyman"Well done on the win serious question how many d/r players did you have on Sun ?
Hope you make it to Toronto'"
Three McLelland, Sucliffe and Goulding with on loan Albert.
Stupid question from me if Fev were to do the impossible next week how many teams will be queuing up to DR with Leeds? Batley, Dewsbury and dare I say Fax? If that was to happen will Fax have sold their soul?
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| I'm hoping Murrell has shifted his pot belly for pre-season.
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| Quote ="jeffvickers"I'm hoping Murrell has shifted his pot belly for pre-season.'"
You mean the one he had as a young lad at Hull Kr?
On the subject of re-signings Im not sure the logic in keeping Fleming. There has to be a young lad about who we can pay less and who offers more on the field?
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| Quote ="FevGrinder"Three McLelland, Sucliffe and Albert.
Stupid question from me if Fev were to do the impossible next week how many teams will be queuing up to DR with Leeds? Batley, Dewsbury and dare I say Fax? If that was to happen will Fax have sold their soul?'"
We all start on zero points FG and as you know DR is just one of the many variables that can work for you or against you and it’s not THE reason for Fev’s good season.
Here’s a question.
What would happen should Toronto win the million pound game but be rejected by the SL clubs for failing due diligence checks, would Fev go up instead?
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| Quote ="faxcar"We all start on zero points FG and as you know DR is just one of the many variables that can work for you or against you and it’s not THE reason for Fev’s good season.
Here’s a question.
What would happen should Toronto win the million pound game but be rejected by the SL clubs for failing due diligence checks, would Fev go up instead?'"
I suspect London would stay up
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| Quote ="FevGrinder"I suspect London would stay up'"
Well in that case Fev have certainly peaked at the right time and are as ready as they’ll ever be so just go and win it.
Although the old adage of concentrate on your own game will be the word from Brian Mac I suspect they would have preferred Toulouse.
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| What would happen if Fev beat Toronto? Would the RFL allow two teams in SL who are basically the same club? The Grove, shudds. Oakham Mandarina Bavaria 4.0% Mmm!
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| Quote ="FevGrinder"Three McLelland, Sucliffe and Goulding with on loan Albert.
Stupid question from me if Fev were to do the impossible next week how many teams will be queuing up to DR with Leeds? Batley, Dewsbury and dare I say Fax? If that was to happen will Fax have sold their soul?'"
Fax have already, shamefully, sold their soul Dave. If you kill one person or kill twenty you're still a murderer.
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"What would happen if Fev beat Toronto? Would the RFL allow two teams in SL who are basically the same club? The Grove, shudds. Oakham Mandarina Bavaria 4.0% Mmm!'"
SL clubs can’t DR with each other so it would have to be Tonto’s mate, the lone arranger.
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| Quote ="faxcar"SL clubs can’t DR with each other so it would have to be Tonto’s mate, the lone arranger.'"
I'm not saying DR. I'm saying two clubs who are basically one, i.e. Leeds and Fev Rhinos.
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| think everyone would be hopping off their high horse if we were 1 game away from Super League
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"I'm not saying DR. I'm saying two clubs who are basically one, i.e. Leeds and Fev Rhinos.'"
Okay on the question of would the RFL allow Leeds and Fev in SL at the same time, basically, yes because they are just as much stand alone clubs as anyone else is including DR.
Why would they be thought of being any different?
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| Quote ="faxcar"Okay on the question of would the RFL allow Leeds and Fev in SL at the same time, basically, yes because they are just as much stand alone clubs as anyone else is including DR.
Why would they be thought of being any different?'"
Surely you can see the conflict of interest there? They aren't even trying to hide it. Watch Rugby League Back Chat, Fev chairman and coach are quite open about it.
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"Surely you can see the conflict of interest there? They aren't even trying to hide it. Watch Rugby League Back Chat, Fev chairman and coach are quite open about it.'"
Of course but that wasn’t the question and as long as it’s part of the game it will be a one of the cards that everyone will draw from the pack to try and win the game being played at this moment in time.
Winning and success being the name of the game.
Not drawing the card and increasing the chances of losing is a bigger conflict of interest in other people’s eyes in their opinion.
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| Quote ="faxcar"Of course but that wasn’t the question and as long as it’s part of the game it will be a one of the cards that everyone will draw from the pack to try and win the game being played at this moment in time.
Winning and success being the name of the game.
Not drawing the card and increasing the chances of losing is a bigger conflict of interest in other people’s eyes in their opinion.'"
Blimey, me head hurts!
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"Blimey, me head hurts!'"
Well stop drinking so much.
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| Quote ="faxcar"Well stop drinking so much.
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Lol! I need the practice.
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"Surely you can see the conflict of interest there? They aren't even trying to hide it. Watch Rugby League Back Chat, Fev chairman and coach are quite open about it.'"
Pete,
I see where you are coming from, but having a good working relationship between 2 parties doesn't make the two parties one entity. Do you remember Hull FC & KR sharing a reserves team together? it didn't stop the two clubs still being being separate teams in SL.
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| Quote ="faxcar"Well stop drinking so much.
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Much as it pains me to say it but Fev have been fantastic in the play-offs and in a way it'd be great to see them do Toronto next week but we don't want to have to go there again next year.
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| Quote ="FevGrinder"Pete,
I see where you are coming from, but having a good working relationship between 2 parties doesn't make the two parties one entity. Do you remember Hull FC & KR sharing a reserves team together? it didn't stop the two clubs still being being separate teams in SL.'"
I do remember the Hull reserves merger, that was wrong and has now ended. Sport is about us against them, not let's all join together. Fev have used over 20 players this season who are not Fev players, Ryan Carr's words. He has been on tv wearing a Leeds shirt. If that is the future of RL then I want no part of it. I hear he is on his way to Leeds anyway. P.S. I saw you on telly, you looked as though you'd had a good day, Lol!
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Much as it pains me to say it but Fev have been fantastic in the play-offs and in a way it'd be great to see them do Toronto next week but we don't want to have to go there again next year.'"
Where? Featherstone?
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"I do remember the Hull reserves merger, that was wrong and has now ended. Sport is about us against them, not let's all join together. Fev have used over 20 players this season who are not Fev players, Ryan Carr's words. He has been on tv wearing a Leeds shirt. If that is the future of RL then I want no part of it. I hear he is on his way to Leeds anyway. P.S. I saw you on telly, you looked as though you'd had a good day, Lol!'"
I don't disagree that sport is about one team against another, it should be that way. However sharing resources does not have to devalue this, for example a number of clubs share the same infrastructure for their web sites, others have shared physios/treatment rooms, this reduces overheads in the same way loaning a player does. if it had been 20 loan players rather than a mixture of 20 DR/loan players would it have been okay? At what point is it wrong when you have used 20 players, 15, 10 maybe, just 5 or even just 1? as you said if you murder 1 person or 10 you are still a murderer. Maybe in truth it the RFL rules that are wrong that allows teams to have 5 DR/Loan players in any given game? And this now makes me look like i'm defending DR when in truth I dislike it.
Yes a fantastic day day out in the sun, 30 degrees, over 40 hours with no sleep, and a visit to one or two ale houses, whats not to like? Oh and we won how could I forget it?
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| Quote ="FevGrinder"I don't disagree that sport is about one team against another, it should be that way. However sharing resources does not have to devalue this, for example a number of clubs share the same infrastructure for their web sites, others have shared physios/treatment rooms, this reduces overheads in the same way loaning a player does. if it had been 20 loan players rather than a mixture of 20 DR/loan players would it have been okay? At what point is it wrong when you have used 20 players, 15, 10 maybe, just 5 or even just 1? as you said if you murder 1 person or 10 you are still a murderer. Maybe in truth it the RFL rules that are wrong that allows teams to have 5 DR/Loan players in any given game? And this now makes me look like i'm defending DR when in truth I dislike it.
Yes a fantastic day day out in the sun, 30 degrees, over 40 hours with no sleep, and a visit to one or two ale houses, whats not to like? Oh and we won how could I forget it?
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Fev are a habitual abuser. Yes, your not breaking any law per se and it would be at the severe detriment of the league if other teams go down the same route. As a fax fan, when I see us trying to develop a sustainable talent pipeline that with the reserves and Calderdale College, same with the like of Newcastle and London - that's good for the game as a whole. I don't see why Fev cannot follow the same path. DR as a system is in place to favour SL clubs as the RFL don't want to develop a tiered system like in OZ.
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