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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Good Luck this afternoon, I will be watching in between watching the horse racing, my tip Lah Ti Dar to win the St Legerwood at Doncaster.
I've been in North Yorkshire all week, in a Log Cabin ,at a place called Hambleton,and didn't want to come home,cmon you Fax.
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"North Riding Ian.'"
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| From a neutral perspective, an enjoyable game. Thought Halifax competed well, but Widnes had the edge by getting the ball out wide with good finishing. Halifax's pack weren't dominated and put in a good shift, and will be a great foundation to build on for the future. Lyons looks a good prospect for Widnes, and Ah Van and Inu were difficult to stop given any space to work with. Score flattered Widnes a tad, but they were worthy winners over the 80 mins.
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| Not a lot between the teams to be honest . A running half back for next year that causes the opposition to pause and with the young guns gaining in experience I don't think the team will be far off exit year We might not like dual reg but will maher has put in a very good shift this year . Had to laugh at the commentator " slow motion or no motion " ref Scott. Unfortunately it's becoming more and more obvious.
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| Quote ="MorePlaymakersNeeded"From a neutral perspective, an enjoyable game. Thought Halifax competed well, but Widnes had the edge by getting the ball out wide with good finishing. Halifax's pack weren't dominated and put in a good shift, and will be a great foundation to build on for the future. Lyons looks a good prospect for Widnes, and Ah Van and Inu were difficult to stop given any space to work with. Score flattered Widnes a tad, but they were worthy winners over the 80 mins.'"
Your username and summary pretty much hits the nail on the head for us. We need new blood in key positions.
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| Halifax have done very well indeed to make the top 4 but I can't help but think the middle 8s for us are very much an anticlimax - lots of huff and puff, promises of things to come etc and anticipation of what the added finances will bring.... Then nothing.
Sadly RM does not have the capacity to change things with the team, that to the rest of us are absolutely apparent... There are zero plans for any new HBs and I doubt many of the key areas already highlighted in need of attention will be addressed as I made to believe we will take to the field next year with pretty much what you see now....
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Your username and summary pretty much hits the nail on the head for us. We need new blood in key positions.'"
As you know, always a question of spending.
Do we have the option to push the boat out a bit more?
If not then fair enough, but if yes, should we take a bit of a gamble or play safer and just paddle along.
No doubt there will be a variety of opinions.
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| When reading these posts I a sense that everyone except RM can see where we need to strengthen, half back Murrel gets a lot of stick, too slow, unfit, but yet the guy is nominated for player of the Championship! Yes he needs a quality partner but give the guy credit for what must be another very good year, or are the other 200 + players in Championship really bad. On the same vein how did Butler not get a nomination.
None of us outside the immediate club circle really know what is going on with current and future planning, yes the BoD could be a little more transparent, as it is frustrating when there is mushroom management .
Even though I am 9000 miles away I still have a keen interest and often stay awake until the small hours to listen to any commentary that are aired for my rugby team.
Unfortunately the game was not available to me on tv live yesterday, I just had to be content with jeering at my friends Lancashire lights out at the Vitality Bash.
Up the Fax and Yorkshire all the way
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| Quote ="the fax in asia"When reading these posts I a sense that everyone except RM can see where we need to strengthen, half back Murrel gets a lot of stick, too slow, unfit, but yet the guy is nominated for player of the Championship! Yes he needs a quality partner but give the guy credit for what must be another very good year, or are the other 200 + players in Championship really bad. On the same vein how did Butler not get a nomination.
None of us outside the immediate club circle really know what is going on with current and future planning, yes the BoD could be a little more transparent, as it is frustrating when there is mushroom management .
Even though I am 9000 miles away I still have a keen interest and often stay awake until the small hours to listen to any commentary that are aired for my rugby team.
Unfortunately the game was not available to me on tv live yesterday, I just had to be content with jeering at my friends Lancashire lights out at the Vitality Bash.
Up the Fax and Yorkshire all the way'"
Who nominates the players for the awards ? If it comes from within the club , then that could explain the nomination.
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| A fantastic effort by Fax. All Widnes tries went through our left hand side and it makes one wonder if the tough tackling Tyrer would have made a difference. Brandan Moore was my MOM, and definitely made a difference when he came on after a slow start. Leeds next up and really looking forward to it. Last time we played them was in SL in 2003. Anyone remember the score?
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| Just watching the game,showing on Setanta under e guise of Cas v Hudd!
As good a winger as Salty is he got beaten too easily. I was surprised Widnes did not target him more. All too often our other defenders were found lacking in closing down the man and allowed lay offs. Do fax need a tackle coach?
Had the first try not been disallowed could have been a different game, but all too often ran out of ideas , seems as though scared to get over the whitewash, going for one man glory and not looking for an opening. Overall full time pro fitness showed the difference. Overall I do not think The Fax were embarrassed.
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| Quote ="the fax in asia"When reading these posts I a sense that everyone except RM can see where we need to strengthen, half back Murrel gets a lot of stick, too slow, unfit, but yet the guy is nominated for player of the Championship! Yes he needs a quality partner but give the guy credit for what must be another very good year, or are the other 200 + players in Championship really bad. On the same vein how did Butler not get a nomination.
None of us outside the immediate club circle really know what is going on with current and future planning, yes the BoD could be a little more transparent, as it is frustrating when there is mushroom management .
Even though I am 9000 miles away I still have a keen interest and often stay awake until the small hours to listen to any commentary that are aired for my rugby team.
Unfortunately the game was not available to me on tv live yesterday, I just had to be content with jeering at my friends Lancashire lights out at the Vitality Bash.
Up the Fax and Yorkshire all the way'"
Here, here!
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| Quote ="Fuzzy Duck"A fantastic effort by Fax. All Widnes tries went through our left hand side and it makes one wonder if the tough tackling Tyrer would have made a difference. Brandan Moore was my MOM, and definitely made a difference when he came on after a slow start. Leeds next up and really looking forward to it. Last time we played them was in SL in 2003. Anyone remember the score?'"
All I could hear was sky going on about Danny Walker totally ignoring Moore, who I also thought was our best player, and totally ignoring him for the MOM picks. He would be doing 80 minutes for me, I see no need for an interchange hooker at this level especially as we normally end up with both on the park later in games and one acting as a second rower.
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| Quote ="the fax in asia"Just watching the game,showing on Setanta under e guise of Cas v Hudd!
As good a winger as Salty is he got beaten too easily. I was surprised Widnes did not target him more. All too often our other defenders were found lacking in closing down the man and allowed lay offs. Do fax need a tackle coach?
Had the first try not been disallowed could have been a different game, but all too often ran out of ideas , seems as though scared to get over the whitewash, going for one man glory and not looking for an opening. Overall full time pro fitness showed the difference. Overall I do not think The Fax were embarrassed.'"
I wouldn't say we need a tackle coach as our defence is very effective at Championship level but not suited for SL opposition. There's nothing really wrong with that but our problems like you mention are our inability to score infact I would go as far to say we look below average when we get in the oppositions half but it all comes back to our skill levels and when you have key positions who can't give out a good pass your attack is always going to look rushed.
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| Having had time to reflect on yesterday's performance we all saw what we have seen most of the season and also something from last weeks game again, to be honest. Masses of endeavour and spirit. The difference is we are not as efficient in speed of thought,decision making, and execution than our SL opponents. Last weeks left edge D took a battering with Hall strolling in for 4 tries. Yesterday we saw the same with a quality right edge from Widnes who were too big and too strong for our boys.
When we make mistakes at Championship level we often get away with it. But at SL level you get punished and we have done throughout these 8's-something we need to learn from quickly.
We need a couple of 'class' players in key positions in the spine of the team and we will move onwards and upwards.(look what a difference QLT made in 5 games) We also need to keep hold of the likes of Moore and Butler who are only going to get better and better.
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| I just don't go with all this coaching-bollox about defence wins matches. I accept it helps you to win but scoring points and try's is how you win a rugby match and the bottom line is that only when we had QLT did we look like a team that were able to score with relative ease. Without him we stutter towards the opposition line I think our defence is pretty good although personally a winger should be instructed and encouraged werever possible to hold the outside line of his opposite number and not cut inside always leaving the long pass option. Myler will have a field day on Saltys side if he does that next week . Let the take responsibility for his man trust him and stay out on your wing. Salty to be fair looks fitter than he has been for some considerable time certainly the start of the season and still has quick feet to beat a man and gain the hard yards out of defence.
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| JensenFF not getting into a pi$$ing game about defence v attack both are important, however if you ship more than you score ...
I do agree the winger must stay on the outside and only let the opposition have the touch line, if you get done then and you did your job no one can fault you. After all that is Salty physically strong enough to compete with full time athletes ?
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| Quote ="jensenFF"Without him we stutter towards the opposition line I think our defence is pretty good although personally a winger should be instructed and encouraged werever possible to hold the outside line of his opposite number and not cut inside always leaving the long pass option. '"
The tactic is fine and its how most people are coached nowadays it just makes you look daft when it is done wrong time and time again. A centre is going to defend easier like that than sticking one on one with their opposition number. The problem is the onus is on the winger to get the timing right, hopefully we see an improvement in that area next season with Robinson in.
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| Where was Moss yesterday?
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| Fax lore, no one is arguing with you about the players skills, and their commitment to Fax, some of the squad could be ull time if given the opportunity,but for many that is not a viable option due to career choices.
If as other people say we keep making the same errors week after week, then there is something wrong with the basics.
As long as we accept we are the best part time tean in theChampionship no one can ask for more until we are in a position to once again be in a contender for S L
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| Last time we played them was in SL in 2003. Anyone remember the score?
We played them at Home on the 28th March Leeds winning 20-14
HX Scorers Donlan & Dane Dorahy Tries,Dorahy 3 Gls.
Att 4073
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| We matched them in a number of areas on Saturday but in the end it was down to the class of Inu, who probably cost them a short much as at least half of our squad if not more. Next season they will struggle due to the financial constraints and a number of players who won’t want to play in the Championship.
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| Oh and the Sky commentators talked utter e, bagging up an Widnes player should and totally ignoring anything shown by Fax other than Flemings hits.
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| Crowd predictions Sunday any idea how many away tickets sold?
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