Solly fans were saying the same about Bomber last season.

TOC has been on SKY on at least 2 occasions when Widnes have, I couldn't imagine Martin Hall doing it when Fax are on.

with cullen and o,conner on the t.v all the time it raises the awareness of the widnes team and gives an unfair advantage over other championship sides.
maybe thats why sky do it.

How does that work then? In what respect does it give them an advantage? Certainly not on the pitch. Indeed, all their presence does at the moment is highlight and remind everyone how bad Widnes are. I'd say that's advantage other Championship clubs at the moment.

advantage in the way they get contacts etc for when franchise time comes around again. keeps them in contact with the right people.

Eddie Hemmings??

Ben Proe??

I can remember years ago when Mal Reilly was away the night before the game, down South I believe before Sky was invented. We were playing at Thrum Hall can`t remember who against but he just arrived back at the kick off. The fact he had left the team to talk on the telly sent shock waves around the ground everbody was furious . It has stuck in my mind ever since can`t remember if we won but do remember everyone was not best pleased.

I think that's a very tenuous link. The things that will make the RFL sit up and take note are: trophies won, good attendances achieved and "location,location,location". We can control two of those. As Meatloaf said - "two outta three aint bad".

Unfortunately the one we can't control holds more weight with the RFL.

Yep - you may be right. Success and attendances aside, i can only ever see us being let back in as a straight swap for another Yorkshire club.

And that leaves Wakey or Cas realistically, lets hope neither of them have a new ground when the next round of applications come around.

And what part of TOC's job suffers as part of being a pundit on SKY.. or even for Cullen for that matter.

There is a lot of tosh being written at the moment about us when the fact remains that we thought we recruited well.. it turns out we haven't. We have a number of injuries which are hurting us. The training programme introduced by McCormack which is another reason we try to play games on Friday night isn't sufficient.

The article above shows that this has been recognised and will hopefully be remedied.

Good academy structure??? Finances??

I bet your more solvent than most but what are you going to do about the youth set up.. wait til the last minute and then round up some kids on a park??

We've introduced an academy this year (i think) to get kids at a younger age. We previously had the best under 21's outside of SL but not enough of them were good enough for the first team, only James Haley and Andy Bowman have come through in recent years.

Yep.
In the meantime we'll try and jump the main hurdle for handing in an application - the first graders to win something or appear in a GF. We romped the reserve grade grand finals two years in a row. It won't take long to get that back, considering we're in a hotbed of young talent in and around the Calderdale area - Siddal being the Minor premiers again this year.

And the penalty for breach of contract is........

Leigh won the u21s League on both occassions,you just happened to play more First Teamers in the Grand Final Teams.Over a full 2 years period I think you'll find that Leigh had a much better wins v loss ratio than Fax and the other teams in the league.

By the way Fax are the best team in the big boys league this season ,no doubt, but winning the GF is still a big ask and anything can happen over an 80 minute game be it in the semis or Final.

I also think who wins the league or GF in 2011 should go up if they meet the criteria set,no arguments then.

Disagree with you on this point. Totally.

Which is Derby match and good for TV/revenue. However, boot them both out so we have our Hudds derby and also Vikings vs The Wire. 2 derbys to replace 1! You know it makes sense!

They might have got in Leighs first team, but not ours at that particular point in time, thats why they were in the 21's.

Get Sacked.

Where are his prioritys? With Sky? or Widnes?

Yes they would, Govin played in one Final along with Wilson and a couple of other regular First Teamers, coming back from injury.

Re getting into Leighs First Team, get down from your lofty perch, Fax have won nothing yet and Leigh have had numerous seasons of being top dog and losing GFs ,4 out of 5 GFs not so long ago.

We could win everything for the next 3 years and pack the stadium every week. We ain't getting in.

None of the first teamers played in the fianl last year bar Andy Bowman, the previous years players like Hartley and Haley played after coming back from injury, at that point in time they wouldn't have got in the first team.

Not on a lofty perch at all pal, i know theres a long way to go and expect us to drop points along the way.

I think that might be the one we last played in, and lost !