A loss is a loss - a SL size loss at that. Maybe the RFL will look at that and your recent administration...and decide your not worth the risk? Maybe...maybe not.

It was a direct investment in the clubs' infrastructure.

Whose loss is it?

How much has this put Widnes in debt?

It was announced as a loss wasnt it? Can here Fat Nige now laughing into his BIG sunday dinner thinking of reasons for keeping Widnes out of the SL...maybe he has one now.

Widnes was not given a licence because of the administration we went into 8 months before. That will not be the case this time.

Every penny of that loss was paid for by SOC, in the form of a gift. Therefore we have accrued no debt as a result.

The RFL are running out of excuses to turn us down. The clubs they picked before us have let them down badly already, and have shown up their criteria as a complete sham and the whole process as a farce.

So no, the RFL will not turn us down, because you fail to understand what the statement on Widnes’ 2008 finances actually mean.

You’re desperately clutching at straws here.

Aww it was a gift then...then why was it announced in Widnes's accounts?


Anyway...good luck with the Licences thing. Lets hope the RFL dont deny you again...you must be feeling unwanted after all the rejections..

Don’t worry, you’ll get used to it.

I already am used to Widnes getting rejected.

I must have missed Halifax playing in SL last season?

You must have - we were brilliant.

We did OK. Finished 5th behind Les Catalans.

You were right with the reply before you edited ......

is what you you get when you click on

This board has some teething problems.

Your world sounds great

It is, im going to be watching the most entertaining side in the CC from Rugby Leagues newest stand. Cant wait.

Why don’t you just pretend you’re in SL again this year?

Because we will be playing you...and the reality is..your not either! And the reality is...i hope you survive the season with your extragavent spending by your Chairman. Over a million pound as a gift for seats and a few dumb bells. If he was after cheap dumb bells im sure he could have got VM for 50p.

There was a hell of a lot more than [i'seats and a few dumb bells'[/i.

There's a new gym with £50,000 worth of equipment added.

A new treatment room + equipment

New locker rooms

New offices

A chill out area for the players

A new briefing room with video facility

Press facilities with internet access

A new trophy room

Dressing rooms refurbished

And, of course, those new seats.

Still very extravagent to give that as a gift to a council owned property. Maybe he is getting a little Des on you....especialy with his outburst earlier this week. Next he will be trying to coach your team!! having said that...he probably could do a better job than Cullen.

No it's not extravagant. It is a direct investment in the clubs’ future. These new facilities will stand the club in good stead for years to come, and puts us way ahead of most clubs – including many in SL.

You just don’t get it do you?

Newest? The seats might be new but I doubt there's that much new about that stand.

As for the Fax v Widnes licence debate, I would actually agree with Fax fans casting a doubt on the long term future of the youngsters that are currently in the Widnes squad, but at the end of day the whole licence process is all about posturing and whos' got the biggest winkle. SO'C can say Widnes have the biggest support outside SL, internationally recognised sponsors, great ground, 8 homegrown youngsters in the 1st team. Our u18's have been competing against SL sides week in week out for the last x number of years. We now have the financial clout to compete in SL and I have a feeling that when the next round of accounts are produced, they will look impressive. We can also say that we will expand the game both locally into Runcorn and a bit further afield by marketing to the West (Merseyside) as well as to the South, where apart from the new Wrexham club, there is virtually no RL clubs until you hit Harlequins.

Apart from being able to compete at Championship level (without actually winning anything so far), is there anything Fax can say or do to trump any of that?

Now is it an investment or a gift? Make your mind up.

We've got a Dixy Chicken and Nigel Wood is the Cheif Exec of the RFL. Weave that one together.........

Read my earlier posts again.

He is investing in the clubs future and not necessarily looking for a return on that investment.

I just can’t dumb it down anymore for you than that. It seems pretty easy to understand, so what’s your problem?