I agree however I think the birth of the expansive rugby started at the rebrand, I remember listening to Lawrence turner who was saying we want to play expansive rugby because we’re in the entertainment industry . Tbh if we trace it all back to the meeting they had at the shay where they discussed what needed to change. I think they identified poor marketing, poor relationships with our local talent etc and obviously poor attendance, the rebrand wasn’t just about a panther it was about getting young blood in and playing entertaining rugby , I suspect Grix a protégé of tony smith style rugby was part of that plan , it might even be the case that he’s been directed to coach that way. Overall it’s a very tricky puzzle to solve with a minimal budget .

For several years under Marshall supporters complained at the boring style of play - we had a fair degree of success often because we usually had a very competitive budget which allowed us to bring in some quality players compared to the majority of the division. With the team assembled now and the more open style of attacking rugby being encouraged there may well be a few hiccups, I also feel though it's the only way to have a chance against the top 2 teams in particular. And while I obviously want Fax to win as many as possible, I feel this team will only get better as they continue to gel, and I'm prepared to live with the odd error when the upside is turning up on Sunday for some excitement rather 5 drives and a kick!

Last nights game is currently being shown free on channel 422, Faxare winning 4/0 at the moment .

With you again I.F.

To all the nay-sayers on here, Bongser thinks that you wouldn't have troubled your, less than industrious, scoreboard operator at all last night had you not played the way you did. You could have knocked on Leigh's front door all night without it being answered, but Grix had spotted that the side gates were ajar - something which Lammy needs to address sooner rather than later.

On last night's showing, the positive results will come and you'll be there or thereabouts come the end of the season.

Well there’s been plenty of doom and gloom on here, to be honest I thought we weren’t far off and the errors really did cost us. I’ll watch it back today and see if what looked contentious tries for Leigh were or weren’t, I’m guessing they were OK as they’ve not been mentioned but didn’t look it from behind the posts. Hopefully if we play like we did and cut the mistakes Worky will be the start of a winning tun.

I couldn`t make it to watch due to a pre-booked holiday. Watched it on tv this morning. Leigh did exactly what I expected from a full time team made up of a set of big athletes. We competed pretty well and has been said most weeks simple errors cost us. I think back to the Calland/Hall era. We played exciting rugby then and I hope that we continue to do so this season. The style Grix has us playing is far more entertaining than latterly played and most teams in The Championship will not be able to cope with it especially now Woody is back. We have the best set of half backs for a while who can play and defend. Perhaps a big forward is missing, no doubt Grix intended that to be the unfortunate Brad Knowles.
I am still confident that we will put some wins under the belt and enjoy the rugby while we do.

Just in that regard, Tangata has been done for incorrect play the balls multiple times this season to which Grix has acknowledged so to me that is a coaching issue. I don't see any lack of effort though like you mention, I just think its a case of been outclassed.

I don't think we were outclassed, beaten by the better team on the night yes, but not hammered. I look forward to the play offs.

no mention of ashworth and mason Out of both ashworth stood out for me and would have him back in the team.
I enjoyed the game some of the players seemed dissapointed to come up short but the effort was there. I predict we will win 9 out of the next 10 games. Optimistic yes but think some one could be on the recieving end of thrashing hope its this sunday

We came up short again. Thought we had narrowed the gap with the signings . On this evidence we have some catching up to do. Didn't think the lads from Huddersfield improved our side. Morris and Co know the calls and are familiar with our plays.
Think Leigh could of gone up a gear if needed. There forwards really got on top .
On this evidence will be happy to finish 6.

Agreed until the last sentence.

When all is said and done i will still be at workington on sunday supporting the club. The point i am making is by not having the players to go through sides up the middle which simon as made the decision not to we are limiting our ways of beating the opposition. This was not just a issue against leigh it as been one for some time which i think should of been addressed by now. By playing the way we are even in dry conditions we will make a fair few errors which i don't mind as long as we are winning. It is not a straight choice between 5 drives and a kick or throwing the ball about its about having a well balanced attack which will make us harder to beat but i don't see that happening.

That's a weird point, how do you work that out?

How many quota players you got? How many of the ones that perform well will you be able to keep? Aren't most of your players on 1 year contracts? Fev have a pretty settled squad, Leigh don't have that benefit so in my opinion you will have more mercinaries just out to get the biggest pay check they can get without very little affiliation to Leigh.

If Fev get promoted, they will have to recruit heavily too in order to compete, hence they will become unsettled just the same.

I reckon Fev will probably only need about 6 or 7 players to have a chance of not finishing last. I think at the moment they could compete with the lower half of SL as I suspect Leigh could but Leigh simply wont keep a lot of the players they have, well I guess they may do but its unlikely.

To be fair Greg, I don't think either Leigh or Fev could compete in SL atm. Leigh will also keep the best of their overseas players who will have already settled in. Leigh are in a better position than Fev but, that doesn't mean we will be promoted. Also, we haven't really hit any kind of good form yet. BTW - We are interested in Blake Ferguson. Anyway, Best of luck for the Panthers for the rest of the season.

Derek , as you rightly say we haven’t hit any real form yet this season , but we still have the BEST attack in the League , when we do watch out .
As for Blake Ferguson , it’s a bit more than interested , but we shall see .I may see ya at the LSV next Friday for the Dews game .

Hi Ian, I hope we do sign him, and we also need a classy stand off (Playmaker/General) to guide us around the park, and create more chances. As for next Friday, I can't make it, but no doubt we will catch up soon mate.

Derek , I’ve heard Lammy has 3 targets , all good players , Derek will supply him with the ammunition , at the moment I’m happy where we are , and when we hit form it will be worth watching .
I know you don’t rate Reynolds , but I think he will get more involved as the season progresses .

Yep and that would apply to every club, after that there's a lot of variables.

Internally whether the individual new recruits turn out to be the right choices, whether collectively they gel together as a unit, injuries and just shear luck and externally the strength or weakness of the closest rivals.

As Fax fans, in the unlikely miraculous event of us getting promoted, to survive we would need an entire new BoD, coach, team and fan base.

Other than those minor issues we,re all ready to go.



PS: I may have exaggerated on needing a new coach.

Is this turning into leigh centurions forum

Not if you contribute more on Fax. Hang on, is Leigh in the title of this thread? BTW - You can always request to the mods that Leigh fans can't join in to a Fax v Leigh thread.

You’ll have to go with Cokey.. Personally he should ask himself how Leigh compete in SL with 11 overseas players.

Pick the best of em, of which a number on here have said we have some SL standard players. Think we’re allowed 7 in SL should we be fortunate (or unfortunate some may say). Probably a few non overseas in the squad can compete as well, so we’d have a decent core to start with