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| Quote ="redwhite&proud"its not that i object to teams coming in from outside m62, indeed catalan dragons are a good example of how it can work. what gets to me is introducing teams to SL just cause they are outside m62 . had CC stayed in the nat leagues (and developed some local talent) and got to a grand final I wouldnt have a problem with their promotion to SL,( if toulousse do this i am all for them being in SL) but clubs with no history , no real fanbase and no local talent are being given licencees in favour of the likes of fax and widnes which are clubs that made this game and, in my opinion, are in a much stronger position to compete in SL . if we are to go down the franchise route then lets make it an even playing field , to be considered you must have at least reach a g.f in the chamionship with a squad of which is 50% of that teams nationality . how can celtic, losing week in week out be good for the good of the game?'"
It's good for a laugh though!!! i agree with what you say though, expansion is a good think but not by positively discriminating over traditional clubs.
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| Quote ="redwhite&proud"its not that i object to teams coming in from outside m62, indeed catalan dragons are a good example of how it can work. what gets to me is introducing teams to SL just cause they are outside m62 . had CC stayed in the nat leagues (and developed some local talent) and got to a grand final I wouldnt have a problem with their promotion to SL,( if toulousse do this i am all for them being in SL) but clubs with no history , no real fanbase and no local talent are being given licencees in favour of the likes of fax and widnes which are clubs that made this game and, in my opinion, are in a much stronger position to compete in SL . if we are to go down the franchise route then lets make it an even playing field , to be considered you must have at least reach a g.f in the chamionship with a squad of which is 50% of that teams nationality . how can celtic, losing week in week out be good for the good of the game?'"
Well I agree it is problematic. On one hand we may remember that the Dragons did relatively poorly in their first year. Though on the other hand, they had an average of more than 6,000 home supporters the first years and won some games (notably their first game, in France, against Wigan). I think we should give them one year, even if for the moment they keep losing. On the bright side they are not all ridiculous when losing their games.
In any case I hope that with the development of the Championship in a more international and professional competition, the licensing lock on SL will be moved down to the Championship in order to allow for a promotion/ relegation system between the two competitions.
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| Quote ="Blueboy"It's good for a laugh though!!! i agree with what you say though, expansion is a good think but not by positively discriminating over traditional clubs.'"
It`s not good for anyones game how on earth these clubs are going to survive if they put another French side in is beyond me .It`s like turkeys voteing to keep Christmas,they not only have no show opposition fans they cannot sell hospitality or sponsorship for the match either FACT.
I can see in 3yrs giving Tolouse a place so theres London ???? (whatever they are calling themselves next year) Celts , Cats the average crowd attendance for Super League lot has got to be going down it`s a joke.
Today most of the Cass fans thought the best team lost I was not only proud of our team I was proud of our supporters too.Prior to last year we have had a lousy few years but this year has certainly given us something to cheer about.
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| Yep, if the RFL think RL is "expanding" by having ONE team in France, ONE team in Wales, ONE team in Scotland and ONE team in London giving it a national, even an international, flavour is totally absurd. For TRUE expansion you surely have to be looking at several teams in the aforementioned regions, otherwise it's a dead duck penalising those clubs who have an established fan base who are trying their best to get in. I mean ..... if England had one club, say based in Manchester, which was a member of the Scottish Caber Tossing Premier League, do you really think the entire country of England would all of a sudden be interested in caber tossing. Never mind England ... Manchester even? I don't think so!
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| cant we just discuss the heroic fax performance instead of it turning into a franchise thread.
We cant produce that week in week out.
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| Great stuff Halifax, why oh why wasn't this game televised!?
Can't help thinking why the game ended as a Golden Point though, surely 10mins of Extra Time and then more time/replay should have been in order.
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| Exactly.
We would find it hard in super league ourselves even after the showing today. The speed of Cas at the ruck was still a step up from us. They made good yards on their possessions. Plus the super league thing is done and we now have to look at 2011 as the next time we get a chance.
Fax have three things to win this year. First the NRC, then the league and then the Grand Final. Lets just do what we need to do to be in the running for super league and make them have a hard decision.
Well done today fax. Proud of all them. There was no single man of the match for me, it was the whole of HALIFAX RLFC!
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| Quote ="BringBackRugbyLeagueBiff"Great stuff Halifax, why oh why wasn't this game televised!?
Can't help thinking why the game ended as a Golden Point though, surely 10mins of Extra Time and then more time/replay should have been in order.'" I completly agree it is not fair that a team may not even get a set with ball in hand.
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| Yes we should have at least three French teams in SL. Then 3 to 4 French teams in Championship which would have 14 clubs. Both SL and the Championship would be fully professional competition with extended TV coverage in France and Britain.
The money will come from TV channels and increased sponsorship. I am confident for the attendance. It has increased in the recent years, and with better media coverage it will increase. Even if there are less travelling fans, there will be more home fans (for sure we can increase that!).
I understand the concern of some heartland fans, but I think that if the Europeanisation of the competition is successful we could have in 10 years a great European competition with two levels SL and SL2 and more than ten thousands of supporter for each match.
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| Quote ="lpage"Yes we should have at least three French teams in SL. Then 3 to 4 French teams in Championship which would have 14 clubs. Both SL and the Championship would be fully professional competition with extended TV coverage in France and Britain.
The money will come from TV channels and increased sponsorship. I am confident for the attendance. It has increased in the recent years, and with better media coverage it will increase. Even if there are less travelling fans, there will be more home fans (for sure we can increase that!).
I understand the concern of some heartland fans, but I think that if the Europeanisation of the competition is successful we could have in 10 years a great European competition with two levels SL and SL2 and more than ten thousands of supporter for each match.'"
no offence pal but at the moment i think most of us are only bothered about Fax, Fax and .. Fax
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| Back to your performance, you did really great. I do not see which Championship side will beat you this year.
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| back on topic.
WELL DONE TO ALL THE PLAYERS, BACK ROOM STAFF, BOARD & US FANS
A massive effort & show of pride in the jumpers today. Best game we've had for nearly a decade. Shame about the ending, just one of those things. I didnt come away today sad we lost, just immensely proud to be a fax fan today.
Still only team unbeaten in a competative game during 80mins!
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| Quote ="ads7fax"no offence pal but at the moment i think most of us are only bothered about Fax, Fax and .. Fax'"
And Les Héros de Fax
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| Quote ="lpage"Yes we should have at least three French teams in SL. Then 3 to 4 French teams in Championship which would have 14 clubs. Both SL and the Championship would be fully professional competition with extended TV coverage in France and Britain.
The money will come from TV channels and increased sponsorship. I am confident for the attendance. It has increased in the recent years, and with better media coverage it will increase. Even if there are less travelling fans, there will be more home fans (for sure we can increase that!).
I understand the concern of some heartland fans, but I think that if the Europeanisation of the competition is successful we could have in 10 years a great European competition with two levels SL and SL2 and more than ten thousands of supporter for each match.'"
Well it will be a long hard slog,how long has London been in Super League has their fan base increased from local support? I think not the last time I was down there it consisted of Aussie /Kiwi folk ,Northerners down there working and away fans the indigeneuos population are still watching Wendyball.
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| In the 1st half, Cas scored despite what fromthe railway end looked to be a forward pass, plus a knock on. The TJ's didnt offer any support to Ganson all night, so wondering if any fans saw this & was it a forward pass or knock on?
Ganson was his usual erratic self, he certainly appears to have put a little bit of timber on & for me, was struggling to keep up with a lot of the play.
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| Quote ="griffax"In the 1st half, Cas scored despite what fromthe railway end looked to be a forward pass, plus a knock on. The TJ's didnt offer any support to Ganson all night, so wondering if any fans saw this & was it a forward pass or knock on?
Ganson was his usual erratic self, he certainly appears to have put a little bit of timber on & for me, was struggling to keep up with a lot of the play.'"
DEF KNOCK ON actually worse than Ben Jeffries against Leeds the other week. Cas player put his hand out to catch the ball knocked it forward about two or three yards how all the officials missed it is beyond belief.
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| Quote ="griffax"In the 1st half, Cas scored despite what fromthe railway end looked to be a forward pass, plus a knock on. The TJ's didnt offer any support to Ganson all night, so wondering if any fans saw this & was it a forward pass or knock on?
Ganson was his usual erratic self, he certainly appears to have put a little bit of timber on & for me, was struggling to keep up with a lot of the play.'"
It was a knock on.
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| The second try was a knock on. We were stood to the side of the in goal near the seating and their second one was a blatant knock on. I can only imagine that ganson didn't see it and the TJs were having a chat with the crowd to miss it as he juggled it three times and dropped it on the floor. Then as he ran past the ball in front of him the player behind picked it up as he ran through and passed it out for the try in the corner.
The forward passes were close calls and can see those going either way through out the season. I certainly wouldn't blame him for them. More flat then forward. I thought that ganson actually didn't have a bad game and the TJs gave him no support in the match. He certainly was taking no back chat from cas.
The second try is the only one i had an issue with in the whole match. It was a good game and fast paced. Wish it was on TV as it would have been a good advert to lower league rugby.
The BBC missed a trick in the last round with Barrow and this round by not showing our game or even tomorrows game at Fev. I fancy they could have a close one there too.
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| At least we didnt have to play another 20 mins, so should be fresh for next weekend
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| On behalf of the Players and all of us at the Club can I say a really big thank you to everyone who came to watch us tonight, especially those in blue and white .and to all of you who shouted yourselves ho
the players couldnt stop talking about that great support which kept them going in that second half . . . definately as good as an extra player
sorry we didnt quite do it for you this time, all but we'll be restarting our league and northern rail cup quest again on sunday. .hopefully you'll be there giving us the same great support
thanks again to you all. . . you were magnificent
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| Quote ="griffax"At least we didnt have to play another 20 mins, so should be fresh for next weekend
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Plus it's a big week from Sunday. As we have Sheffield at home and then a four day turn around to Thursdays Doncaster game.
The lads could do with a rest i think. At least the Sheffield game is at home though.
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| Quote ="Halifax RLFC"On behalf of the Players and all of us at the Club can I say a really big thank you to everyone who came to watch us tonight, especially those in blue and white .and to all of you who shouted yourselves ho
the players couldnt stop talking about that great support which kept them going in that second half . . . definately as good as an extra player
sorry we didnt quite do it for you this time, all but we'll be restarting our league and northern rail cup quest again on sunday. .hopefully you'll be there giving us the same great support
thanks again to you all. . . you were magnificent
Mike'"
NO APOLOGY NEEDED, WE ARE ALL SO PROUD TO BE FAX
WELL DONE THE LADS
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| Quote ="Halifax RLFC"On behalf of the Players and all of us at the Club can I say a really big thank you to everyone who came to watch us tonight, especially those in blue and white .and to all of you who shouted yourselves ho
the players couldnt stop talking about that great support which kept them going in that second half . . . definately as good as an extra player
sorry we didnt quite do it for you this time, all but we'll be restarting our league and northern rail cup quest again on sunday. .hopefully you'll be there giving us the same great support
thanks again to you all. . . you were magnificent
Mike'"
Mike, that was a fantastic performance and a privilege to watch. The players should be very very proud of their performance and if it had gone to 10 mins each way in extra time, who knows what the result would have been?
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| Delighted with everyone who turned up today, looked brilliant!!!! The players were fantastic, I truly am proud to be a Fax fan!!!
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| Quote ="Yob"Mike, that was a fantastic performance and a privilege to watch. The players should be very very proud of their performance and if it had gone to 10 mins each way in extra time, who knows what the result would have been?'"
Got to agree with that.
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