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| The next Maurice Lindsay take a bow. Wigan top of the tree again and think they own the game!!! Don't recall much noise when they weren't doing so well...??
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| =#FF0000Stop hijacking threads or you will be banned. -Nat (Mod)
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| Quote ="faxcar"Start another thread don't hi jack this one.
I still have some bills to pay, we all do so what as long as I pay them on time no problem.
There is nothing in this document that mentions "unpayed arrears" or "unrecoverable debt" and the heavy gang will be calling so get you facts right before you post something in public.
Erroenous comments with the sole intent on being misleading can be slanderous or defamation of character.'"
There was a seperate thread for this but it was deleted.
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| Quote ="Realist Shay"Nothing misleading there Mr head in sand.
If you think so, sue me.'"
You start off by revealing this crushing piece of "truth" about the apparent failings of the RL club and when it comes out what it really is you can't even accept the truth yourself.
At worst it's rent that has yet to be paid still in the payment time frame, as you don't have to pay it in advance Mr head up your rectum.
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| Quote ="mr t hall"There was a seperate thread for this but it was deleted.'"
I know mate and the Town jackals smelt blood and went on about it on the courier site but there's nothing to hide here including their ignorance, their wrong again.
The mods will step in if they think it is right to delete the posts but I couldn't let it pass without exposing another pathetic attempt to slag off the club.
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| I would think that may be from the rent argument about 3 years back. Obviously FC Halifax Town been pretty much a new company wont have the historical debt that the old company had.
It really is of no surprise. Paying about £1500 less than agreed over 36 months wont be so far off what is owed.
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| Quote ="Realist Shay"So why only The Rugby Club in arrears?
This makes the secret negotiations to buy the ground look even more dodgy. The council claim that 200,000 is the cost to taxpayers each year. This can be cut by 25% if they pay up.
Add to this the fact that SL is a pipe dream for Fax you cannot even afford The Shay , if you don't pay the rent how can you own it?
Those six councillors on the Labour cabinet will have had this information. They must resign, their positions are untenable.'"
I know your getting giddy about this but all involved probably knew about these arrears. Its not like it hasnt been printed in the press.
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| Quote ="Realist Shay"So why only The Rugby Club in arrears?
This makes the secret negotiations to buy the ground look even more dodgy. The council claim that 200,000 is the cost to taxpayers each year. This can be cut by 25% if they pay up.
Add to this the fact that SL is a pipe dream for Fax you cannot even afford The Shay , if you don't pay the rent how can you own it?
Those six councillors on the Labour cabinet will have had this information. They must resign, their positions are untenable.'"
If you are so concerned about the tax payer this can be cut by 100% if they sell the ground.
All you have to worry about is, if and when the RL club buys the Shay is for FC Town to pay their rent on time to their new masters so sit down and behave or we might charge more.
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| Quote ="Realist Shay"So why only The Rugby Club in arrears?
This makes the secret negotiations to buy the ground look even more dodgy. The council claim that 200,000 is the cost to taxpayers each year. This can be cut by 25% if they pay up.
Add to this the fact that SL is a pipe dream for Fax you cannot even afford The Shay , if you don't pay the rent how can you own it?
Those six councillors on the Labour cabinet will have had this information. They must resign, their positions are untenable.'"
i have not seen anywhere that fax are to buy or trying to buy the shay.
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| Bitch,moan and cause trouble is all the Town lot seem to do. Look at your club and the amount it has not payer over the years.Its this attitude why I have no time for the football lot.
Getting back to the thread, good to see Fax stand up and be counted. Lets hope other chairmen and clubs join us. Rugby League is more than SL or a group of clubs. The game has many problems at many levels that need sorting now.
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| Originally these restructures weren't being brought in to help the championship clubs,they were being brought in because wakey,salford and bradford are skint,london are broke and david hughes wants to cut his funding.Hudgell and co have repeatedly said they cannot continue to fund hkr indefinitely to the tune of 500k a year.
All these clubs need to massively reduce there spending.
The problem is,if these clubs reduce there spending then the standards in SL drop even more than they have already.
The 3x8 groups allows them to reduce spending and give them something to play for,for the whole season,why is that a problem?.
I feel like we've all been suckered in to believe this is about the championship clubs, its not, its about protecting the failed/failing sl clubs.
There just happens to be potential benefits for championship clubs.
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| I suspect if it went to a vote and leeds and wakey and the championship clubs sided with the rfl,then the rfl would win.
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| Quote ="Realist Shay"=#FF0000Stop hijacking threads or you will be banned. -Nat (Mod) '"
Ohhhh, that's a shame Nat, he invited us to sue him. I wonder if he'll provide us with his name & address & contact details so we know who to send the letters to ?
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| Interesting reading, He seems to think they have been consulted along the way. all the way, However Leneghan says they havent been consulted at all.
I think the restructure will hobble through this battle for the greater good of the game afterall. The sooner i know the sooner i will part with cash for season tickets.
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The full statement:
www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/3451
the part I particularly like is:
"It is also a great and opportune time to have a newly appointed RFL and Super League Chairman in Brian Barwick, whose highest level background in media and in professional sport can assist rugby league greatly in its strategic direction and commercial strengthening. He deserves our full and unqualified backing as we seek to strengthen for the benefit of all."
That sounds like he backs the RFL 100% and certainly does not suggest the "lack of confidence" suggested by Mr. Lenegan. Methinks, perhaps, he overstated his level of support.
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The full statement:
www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/3451
the part I particularly like is:
"It is also a great and opportune time to have a newly appointed RFL and Super League Chairman in Brian Barwick, whose highest level background in media and in professional sport can assist rugby league greatly in its strategic direction and commercial strengthening. He deserves our full and unqualified backing as we seek to strengthen for the benefit of all."
That sounds like he backs the RFL 100% and certainly does not suggest the "lack of confidence" suggested by Mr. Lenegan. Methinks, perhaps, he overstated his level of support.
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Quote ="Fax Machine"The full statement:
www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/3451
the part I particularly like is:
"It is also a great and opportune time to have a newly appointed RFL and Super League Chairman in Brian Barwick, whose highest level background in media and in professional sport can assist rugby league greatly in its strategic direction and commercial strengthening. He deserves our full and unqualified backing as we seek to strengthen for the benefit of all."
That sounds like he backs the RFL 100% and certainly does not suggest the "lack of confidence" suggested by Mr. Lenegan. Methinks, perhaps, he overstated his level of support.'"
Good to see you have posted on the Wigan forum mate and beat me too it.
I have been on there myself over the last week or so and tried to get our point across whilst being carefull not to let it get to a slagging match and I think I managed it.
It will be interesting to see how they react, I do admire the way Wigan play but not some of the arrogance.
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Quote ="Fax Machine"The full statement:
www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/3451
the part I particularly like is:
"It is also a great and opportune time to have a newly appointed RFL and Super League Chairman in Brian Barwick, whose highest level background in media and in professional sport can assist rugby league greatly in its strategic direction and commercial strengthening. He deserves our full and unqualified backing as we seek to strengthen for the benefit of all."
That sounds like he backs the RFL 100% and certainly does not suggest the "lack of confidence" suggested by Mr. Lenegan. Methinks, perhaps, he overstated his level of support.'"
Good to see you have posted on the Wigan forum mate and beat me too it.
I have been on there myself over the last week or so and tried to get our point across whilst being carefull not to let it get to a slagging match and I think I managed it.
It will be interesting to see how they react, I do admire the way Wigan play but not some of the arrogance.
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Quote ="Fax Machine"The full statement:
www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/3451
the part I particularly like is:
"It is also a great and opportune time to have a newly appointed RFL and Super League Chairman in Brian Barwick, whose highest level background in media and in professional sport can assist rugby league greatly in its strategic direction and commercial strengthening. He deserves our full and unqualified backing as we seek to strengthen for the benefit of all."
That sounds like he backs the RFL 100% and certainly does not suggest the "lack of confidence" suggested by Mr. Lenegan. Methinks, perhaps,[u he overstated his level of support[/u.'"
And his level of importance
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Quote ="Fax Machine"The full statement:
www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/3451
the part I particularly like is:
"It is also a great and opportune time to have a newly appointed RFL and Super League Chairman in Brian Barwick, whose highest level background in media and in professional sport can assist rugby league greatly in its strategic direction and commercial strengthening. He deserves our full and unqualified backing as we seek to strengthen for the benefit of all."
That sounds like he backs the RFL 100% and certainly does not suggest the "lack of confidence" suggested by Mr. Lenegan. Methinks, perhaps,[u he overstated his level of support[/u.'"
And his level of importance
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| Quote ="faxcar"Good to see you have posted on the Wigan forum mate and beat me too it.
I have been on there myself over the last week or so and tried to get our point across whilst being carefull not to let it get to a slagging match and I think I managed it.
It will be interesting to see how they react, I do admire the way Wigan play but not some of the arrogance.'"
Brilliant debate with Daveo on the wigan board pal,how you kept your cool or didnt just walk away is amazing.If i owned a flatcap i would doff it to you sir.
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| Quote ="Faxhali"Interesting reading, He seems to think they have been consulted along the way. all the way, However Leneghan says they havent been consulted at all.
I think the restructure will hobble through this battle for the greater good of the game afterall. The sooner i know the sooner i will part with cash for season tickets.'"
That is exactly one of the points made in this weeks Rl press that through all of this there has been consultation and if IL or Wigan had any objections then they should have raised them behind closed doors at the Council meeting and sorted it in house without going public like this especially just before the World cup is due to start.
For a fact the RL press stated that IL and Wigan never go to these meetings, others do such as Hetherington but not Wigan, if they can't be bothered to go then make your own minds up as to what they think of the rest of the game.
As regards just SL meetings the same is asked, has IL attended or if not who did he send and what did they report back??????
Likewise if they are such brilliant buisness men who can bring in a boat load of cash to the game how come they are not doing it for there own clubs????
Even if they could and they were the ones to do it would they want to share it with some of the other clubs who have been unable to bring anything in or manage themselves responsibly????
You could go on forever with it, I'll just be glad when we know what we are doing no doubt like the rest of RL at the moment.
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| Quote ="halifaxjohn"www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/bradford-bulls/league-rift-deepens-as-players-union-back-club-revolt-1-6131298
Players view'"
I thought, for a moment, that that was a new statement but it is the original one that was made over a week ago following the cancellation of the EGM.
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| Quote ="Fax Machine"I thought, for a moment, that that was a new statement but it is the original one that was made over a week ago following the cancellation of the EGM.'"
That's me always one week behind.
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| Quote ="halifaxjohn"That's me always one week behind.
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