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| there is i think 30 seconds before each match for players to show what they think about racism for me how they choose to spend that time is up to them
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"How disappointing to see players doing this prior to yesterday's game. I would have liked to have thought RL players were above this type of sheepish behaviour, most Fax players were I know. How grown men can continue with this is beyond me. Get on with the rugby.
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Just to clarify: If your frustration is to do with the delaying of the game, and sheepish behaviour by the players, would you be booing and shouting "get on with the game" if you went to a game on Remembrance Day and there was a minute's silence beforehand that was observed by all the players?
If the answer to that is no and it's not an across-the-board disliking for symbolic gestures before a sporting event, then what is it about players protesting for 13 seconds against racial injustice that upsets you so much?
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"How disappointing to see players doing this prior to yesterday's game. I would have liked to have thought RL players were above this type of sheepish behaviour, most Fax players were I know. How grown men can continue with this is beyond me. Get on with the rugby.
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Why so bothered about a 13 second protest against racism?
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| Doing the black power salute is nothing to do with racism, it's political and in this context supportive of a terrorist group.
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"Doing the black power salute is nothing to do with racism, it's political and in this context supportive of a terrorist group.'"
Absolute tosh. If you want to apply context, then players making a stand against racism has nothing to do with political or terrorist group. Some of those players have suffered from racial prejudice, one being very recent from a supposed friend and team mate.
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| Quote ="gizempo"Absolute tosh. If you want to apply context, then players making a stand against racism has nothing to do with political or terrorist group. Some of those players have suffered from racial prejudice, one being very recent from a supposed friend and team mate.'"
Absolute codswallop. Racism works both ways and this taking the knee rubbish has caused more division than owt I can recall. Once again, I go to sporting events to watch sport, not be subjected other people's beliefs.
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"Absolute codswallop. Racism works both ways and this taking the knee rubbish has caused more division than owt I can recall. Once again, I go to sporting events to watch sport, not be subjected other people's beliefs.'"
Like I said in answer to your original post. Go speak to those players and get their take on it. I've witnessed many racial comments and chants at games over the years, but none aimed at white players....strange that!! Your attitude to this is more reason for the players to keep doing this!
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"Doing the black power salute is nothing to do with racism, it's political and in this context supportive of a terrorist group.'"
As has already been said to you...RL players tend to be quite accessible, so after the next game why not go up to the black players in your team and ask them if you've got it right and if in fact the gesture they are making is in support of a terrorist group?
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| Quote ="The Phantom Horseman"As has already been said to you...RL players tend to be quite accessible, so after the next game why not go up to the black players in your team and ask them if you've got it right and if in fact the gesture they are making is in support of a terrorist group?'"
Why just the black players?
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| Wow! you keep on digging, you'll need a new shovel soon
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"Why just the black players?
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Because they will have the personal experience of the thing they are protesting against, and you might get some very clear and firm reactions to your suggestion that they're doing it to support a terrorist group. But hey, you're right, ask the other players too.
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| Wow Hudd-Shay, just wow.
I already didn't have much respect for you due to your posting history but this has just shattered the last shred of respect that remained.
The club doesn't need fans like you and I don't need to read your rubbish on a fans' forum. Blocked.
Bye racist.
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| Quote ="The Phantom Horseman"Because they will have the personal experience of the thing they are protesting against, and you might get some very clear and firm reactions to your suggestion that they're doing it to support a terrorist group. But hey, you're right, ask the other players too.'"
...and white people don't?
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| So when was the last time you heard racial chanting or comments aimed at white players? And are you now going to claim you've never heard them aimed at black payers?
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| Wow just wow.
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"...and white people don't?'"
I’ve never heard any white player getting racial abuse but I can go back to Francis Jarvis at Batley have to put up with dumb monkey chants, the idiots were shouted down. I have to idea how much many people have to put up with and support taking a knee, I only wish it would help make a difference but from what I’m hearing and reading it seems not.
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| Quote ="Norman Bates"I’ve never heard any white player getting racial abuse but I can go back to Francis Jarvis at Batley have to put up with dumb monkey chants, the idiots were shouted down. I have to idea how much many people have to put up with and support taking a knee, I only wish it would help make a difference but from what I’m hearing and reading it seems not.'"
I remember that, was not pleasant at all.
Was that also the same game the referee had to be substituted? He got hit by a coin thrown from the crowd and laid him out. Apparently hit the pressure point on his neck.
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| I thought it was impactive at first but to be honest its feels boring now and somewhat tokenism . If they want to do it fine if not no problem to be honest .
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| Please elaborate. In what way did you find it was impactive and why is it now boring. Its last seconds. The players and some more than others appear to think its still necessary.
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| My opinion constantly changes on this one . Sometimes I feel like the subject causes more division rather than promoting harmony . Ie the protests in Leeds tonight are about what really ?
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| Don’t come to the games Hudd-Shay. You won’t be missed at The Shay or on here. Miserable person.
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| Quote ="MP"Don’t come to the games Hudd-Shay. You won’t be missed at The Shay or on here. Miserable person.'"
I'll be there on Sunday and , hopefully, I'll be quite happy thanks you.
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| Not fussed either way everyone can have there views if they want to do it thats there choice makes no difference to any one else
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| Quote ="gizempo"I remember that, was not pleasant at all.
Was that also the same game the referee had to be substituted? He got hit by a coin thrown from the crowd and laid him out. Apparently hit the pressure point on his neck.'"
Can’t say about the ref, memory not that good these days.
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