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| Quote ="Gary High"Not quite. I can assure you the quality of the 1st team is excellent and players will be well paid. Without discrediting the reserves, I would be inclined to say they are not very well paid and will all work full-time. Most of them play because they enjoy it, not for the money. Like I said earlier it interests me how you know so much about another Clubs finances etc......or should I say don't know. I was unclear when I said the page is out of date - What I meant was some players appearing on it have left but have not been removed from the page. Im not the website admin so cannot explain why but it really isn't that important.
I am more than confident that when the RFL auditors do turn up we will be under the Cap and that is all I have to say on the matter. If you wish to trawl through articles on the t'internet in aid of some obsession then continue but frankly I find it rather amusing and it reeks of bitterness - Enjoy your off season Pepe, [size=150some of us have a Grand Final to get ready for [/size
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"Bless, you booty will be kicked next year.'"
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| Quote ="wereutherein1987?"Widnes fans mate not Fax'"
No, the thread and the issue of Barrow's spending was brought up by a Halifax fan, Fax4Life. Up until this post only one Widnes fan, me, had commented on this thread.
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| Quote ="Gary High"Not quite. I can assure you the quality of the 1st team is excellent and players will be well paid. Without discrediting the reserves, I would be inclined to say they are not very well paid and will all work full-time. Most of them play because they enjoy it, not for the money. Like I said earlier it interests me how you know so much about another Clubs finances etc......or should I say don't know. I was unclear when I said the page is out of date - What I meant was some players appearing on it have left but have not been removed from the page. Im not the website admin so cannot explain why but it really isn't that important.
I am more than confident that when the RFL auditors do turn up we will be under the Cap and that is all I have to say on the matter. If you wish to trawl through articles on the t'internet in aid of some obsession then continue but frankly I find it rather amusing and it reeks of bitterness - Enjoy your off season Pepe, some of us have a Grand Final to get ready for
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Not too sure why you think I'm bitter though?
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| Some nice banter there, chaps. Let's keep it this way.
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| Gazza really is giving it his best shot ....... in our own back yard! I'm impressed!
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| Quote ="danny dyer 2000"But that won't buy you a new ground by 2011 will it
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There's a huge difference between 'buying a new ground' and upgrading to SL standard. Investing in a brand new stadium would be a non-starter and probably financial suicide in todays' climate (as Cas, Wakey, Celtics, Saints etc are finding out.). By the start of next season we will have our new £250K floodlights (hooray !!), which are over and above SL standard. This is just the start of the work.
The RFL will have to relax ground requirements prior to the next round of licensing or 3 or 4 existing SL clubs will have to be booted out. With a good business plan for redevelopment and guaranteed investment/grants (which we are well on with) it could be VERY interesting come 2011.
2 years ago who would have thought Barrow would have won the league, got to the NR Cup Final and reached the Grand Final ??
2 years is a long time at Barrow RL. Miracles DO happen
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| Quote ="SRC"
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Us Fax fans are certainly hoping so. October 4th, Halliwell Jones Stadium approx 7.15pm. Penky lifting the trophy. COME ON FAX, miracles DO happen, Keep the dream alive!!
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| I think it a joke that barrow have 49 players, no way are they under the cap.Sorry to say it but definitetly cheating.If it was widnes this topic be 10 pages long. We lost games due to key players out and not have cover like barrow.A superleague squad would be happy with a squad like barrow.Rooney,catic alone must be on 60 grande between them.When we got injuries players like grady,yates,houghton,hulme who are all youngsters.Anyway the game is corrupt and i hope fax or fev win the final.
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| Quote ="Gary High"Maybe have a read through the other posts which will clear up you doubts. You clearly don't have a clue mate or you are privy to some very confidential information. Stating we are cheating is absolutely unfounded. Let the RFL do their audits at the end of the season and we will have this discussion again.
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If you read his post properly you'd realise its a Widnes fan posting and not a Fax Fan
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| Quote ="Brew"If you read his post properly you'd realise its a Widnes fan posting and not a Fax Fan
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I have also read that the Salary cap is monitored on a monthly basis - whether it is true or not I do not know.
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| Quote ="Gary High"Whoops
I have also read that the Salary cap is monitored on a monthly basis - whether it is true or not I do not know.'"
I really dont think you have an issue with the salary cap, Des Johnston inherited Maurice Lyndseys book of Sarlary Cap cheats, so no worries there.
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| I find it quite sad that people on here really care about whats going on at Barrrow, I for 1 really couldnt care less to be honest ! Lets concentrate on our club and our team and get behind the lads on Thursday. If we win i will then start to get excited for the game against Barrow who if we are honest are the best team in this division on current form (Fact). I do however think that if both teams played to full potential in the final (if we get there) we would see a cracking game and we would win quite comfortably . Heres Hoping !!
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| Quote ="Soldierboy"I think it a joke that barrow have 49 players, no way are they under the cap.Sorry to say it but definitetly cheating.If it was widnes this topic be 10 pages long.
We lost games due to key players out and not have cover like barrow.A superleague squad would be happy with a squad like barrow.Rooney,catic alone must be on 60 grande between them.When we got injuries players like grady,yates,houghton,hulme who are all youngsters.Anyway the game is corrupt and i hope fax or fev win the final.
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Barrow were down to a bare 17 man squad until we picked up the Oldham players. Half of the 49 players you talk about are reserve players. Any club who runs a reserve team would have at least that amount of players on their books. If they run academy teams, even more.
Regarding the salary of Rooney (who only joined us in late June) and Catic, of course, the likes of Webster, Harris, Black, Koe Love etc etc are playing for £10K a season - I think not.
You can bank on one thing though, if Barrow are fudging the cap, then every other team in the Championship is.
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| Quote ="fekafan17"I can understand where the context of this post is coming from, but i really do believe its stimulated from bitterness
Ok yes, Barrows success has been built on partially investment, no barrow fan is denying that? it seems to me a small majority of the fax fans believe us, the barrow fans, cant see this? of course we have invested! at the end of the day a club we have high ambitions needs to start somewhere, surely. What we are trying to put across is how much local talent is present in the team or has been in the team before the johnston investment of recent years; Harrison, Nixon, Broadbent, MacDermott, Ostler, Finch, Holt, Mossop, Ellis, and Dave Clarke himself! Were all involved at Barrow before the investment of recent years or are local. I hope you can somehow rest your grudge against us and focus your attention to your match with featherstone
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broadbent wasnt
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| Quote ="haven4ever"broadbent wasnt'"
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"Harrison, Nixon, Broadbent, MacDermott, Ostler, Finch, Holt, Mossop, Ellis, and Dave Clarke himself! Were all involved at Barrow before the investment of recent years or are local."
Broady lives on Walney. Therefore he is a local. What is your point ??
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| Quote ="SRC"Barrow were down to a bare 17 man squad until we picked up the Oldham players. Half of the 49 players you talk about are reserve players. Any club who runs a reserve team would have at least that amount of players on their books. If they run academy teams, even more.
Regarding the salary of Rooney (who only joined us in late June) and Catic, of course, the likes of Webster, Harris, Black, Koe Love etc etc are playing for £10K a season - I think not.
You can bank on one thing though, if Barrow are fudging the cap, then every other team in the Championship is.'" One word BOLLOCKS.
You not a superleague team and halifax have no reserve team and at widnes the reserves are youth which not count on the cap.My opinion and i cant believe your top players expect small wages.
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| Des johnson bought you the league and you be nowhere without him.Come on fax for the cup.Fax are the best and barrow will get smashed on the day.
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| Quote ="Gary High"Whoops
I have also read that the Salary cap is monitored on a monthly basis - whether it is true or not I do not know.'"
The RFL probably claim they monitor clubs monthly wage bill but they also likely turn a blind eye to certain teams like Celtic for example. And the RFL are exactly not the most organized bunch and bet it would be easy to cheat the cap. And I doubt the RFL will exhaust themselves to prove Barrow or anybody is cheating-its not worth the effort.
They may monitor a clubs accounts but I doubt they will monitor the bank Accounts of people like Des Johnson who could easily be putting money in to a bank account for Rooney, Catic, Ellis etc for them to claim later. There are a number of ways of beating the cap and I would not be surprised if Johnson is doing this. And if he is good on him but how long will he last?
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| A good way of getting round the salary cap is putting some players on the payroll of the company sponsoring the club.
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| Quote ="Leon Ashton"A good way of getting round the salary cap is putting some players on the payroll of the company sponsoring the club.'"
You lot are obsessed !!
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| I think the obsessive and compulsive nature of the post has led the halifax fans to a point of distraction regarding there game on thursday, which is the biggest game of their season? If you didnt throw away your chance to finish top and maintained your form you wouldnt have started this topic, end of
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| Quote ="Leon Ashton"A good way of getting round the salary cap is putting some players on the payroll of the company sponsoring the club.'"
Nope, that counts on the salary cap if they are a sponsor, however........
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| I think that this thread has run it's course and is going nowhere special.
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