I've checked Fax's finances on companis house, they make yours look like ENRON!

But if you dont understand what you are looking at , why waste your time

I am an accoutant

Who cares!....The Widnes turnover etc in the long run will be better than ours and it doesnt really matter if its not cos they have the man with the money to throw away and we abused ours so he left

big TG has been down a couple of times this season!

he was at the CAS game

Christ if computers could laugh they would at half the crap on here. For any set of rl fans with half a brain cell between them it was always going to be clear we would make a loss on year 1. When Seve bought the club we had to generate a playing staff, academy team and backroom staff from stratch. 250k was invested into the academy in year one which would set up a sustainable youth set up for the following years. This 250k costs will not have to be invested in future years making the balance sheet alot more healthier. Debts had to be cleared, new seats were bought, improvements in the stadium rised significantly. These are all significant costs which will not be taken into account in following years resulting in us breaking even or even making a profit. I would much rather be in our position then any other club in this league when our off the field problems are concerned. Correct me if I'm wrong but i'm sure i heard last week that if our turn over was £1m or more this year we are allowed to spend more on the salary cap next year than the other teams? www.runcornandwidnesweeklynews.c ... -24383004/ That will do for me.

Christ if computers could laugh they would at half the crap on here. For any set of rl fans with half a brain cell between them it was always going to be clear we would make a loss on year 1. When Seve bought the club we had to generate a playing staff, academy team and backroom staff from stratch. 250k was invested into the academy in year one which would set up a sustainable youth set up for the following years. This 250k costs will not have to be invested in future years making the balance sheet alot more healthier. Debts had to be cleared, new seats were bought, improvements in the stadium rised significantly. These are all significant costs which will not be taken into account in following years resulting in us breaking even or even making a profit. I would much rather be in our position then any other club in this league when our off the field problems are concerned. Correct me if I'm wrong but i'm sure i heard last week that if our turn over was £1m or more this year we are allowed to spend more on the salary cap next year than the other teams? www.runcornandwidnesweeklynews.c ... -24383004/ That will do for me.

Quote ="Viva La Vikings!!" Christ if computers could laugh they would at half the crap on here. For any set of rl fans with half a brain cell between them it was always going to be clear we would make a loss on year 1. When Seve bought the club we had to generate a playing staff, academy team and backroom staff from stratch. 250k was invested into the academy in year one which would set up a sustainable youth set up for the following years. This 250k costs will not have to be invested in future years making the balance sheet alot more healthier. Debts had to be cleared, new seats were bought, improvements in the stadium rised significantly. These are all significant costs which will not be taken into account in following years resulting in us breaking even or even making a profit. I would much rather be in our position then any other club in this league when our off the field problems are concerned. Correct me if I'm wrong but i'm sure i heard last week that if our turn over was £1m or more this year we are allowed to spend more on the salary cap next year than the other teams? www.runcornandwidnesweeklynews.c ... -24383004/ That will do for me.'" Makes me laugh, this thread is discussing fact (audited) and still WIDNES fans tell us their wrong and misleading! the only crap on here is Widnes finances. Lets hope you get your £1m turnover becasue SOC will be digging deepr if you dont

Quote ="Viva La Vikings!!" Christ if computers could laugh they would at half the crap on here. For any set of rl fans with half a brain cell between them it was always going to be clear we would make a loss on year 1. When Seve bought the club we had to generate a playing staff, academy team and backroom staff from stratch. 250k was invested into the academy in year one which would set up a sustainable youth set up for the following years. This 250k costs will not have to be invested in future years making the balance sheet alot more healthier. Debts had to be cleared, new seats were bought, improvements in the stadium rised significantly. These are all significant costs which will not be taken into account in following years resulting in us breaking even or even making a profit. I would much rather be in our position then any other club in this league when our off the field problems are concerned. Correct me if I'm wrong but i'm sure i heard last week that if our turn over was £1m or more this year we are allowed to spend more on the salary cap next year than the other teams? www.runcornandwidnesweeklynews.c ... -24383004/ That will do for me.'" Makes me laugh, this thread is discussing fact (audited) and still WIDNES fans tell us their wrong and misleading! the only crap on here is Widnes finances. Lets hope you get your £1m turnover becasue SOC will be digging deepr if you dont

Think he goes to most games and he is always at the past players annual meal. I still think he does a bit for the club behind the scenes but the days of mass financial help are over which is sad for the majority cos a few Knobs decided to abuse him and his family.

Well its a good job he wont be digging deep then isnt it and even if he had to, which he wont he can afford to dig deep



I feel sorry for Halifax fans, they understand the finances, its clear in this thread that they do, just the minority like yourself keep talking bubbles.
SOC never made all the investments in the stadium this year expecting to make an immediate profit or return, he might have just made them to improve the clubs structure as a whole.

One things for sure, if we hit the £1m turnover mark this year, we will be operating at £400k next year whilst the majority of clubs will be struggling for £300k.

now you are talking bubbles.

If you want to know what God thinks of money, just look at the people he gave it to.

I'm glad your not mine then

Although that does explain things then

Terrible businessmen accountants

Someone once told me, an accountant is someone .
"Who knows the cost of everything but the value of nothing".
Not sure wether that is true or not.

Someone see sense.We have a bigger turnover than halifax and ste o connor has done alot and supports widnes rlfc.Halifax do not run a reserves or academy so easier to save.RFL want a academy set up and widnes and ste oconnor are trying to do what the rfl want.We are in best postion.But i admit want a strong fax and leigh teams.As fed up of bad atmospheres with games such as batley and gateshead.

Think it you bubbles.

Got to say that I think Steve O'Connor is a great bloke. I've got to know him over past couple of years and one of the nicest blokes involved in rugby league that i've ever met. He loves Widnes and has put a lot of money into the club. He bought me a few beers at the last Halifax match over at Widnes and also invited me to sit with him and his wife for a meal before the game. Thought it was a really nice gesture of him and as one of Halifax's biggest freeloaders I had no problem in accepting his offer.

Spot on , the only accountant to ever build a decent business is the bloke who owns/owned barratts house builders

Accountants are not clever enough to see the ' vision ' of a business

A bit like looking at a RL team ' on paper ' rather than on the pitch where they play

I had one vist me once , he worked for one of my suppliers , it was just after Xmas and we were late paying our account , we explained that we were in a seasonal business and january was always a slow time for orders and it was difficult getting money in , and that the stock we owed for was still unused on the shelves

Our debt at the beginning of jan was about 12 K , by the time he came to see us it was the 3 rd week in jan and we had got the debt down to 7 K

We pointed this out to him , but he still insisted on reducing our credit limit

I asked him if he had any experience running a business , yes he replied he used to run a debt collection business

Very relevant to what he was now doing I replied and suggested that the stocktake must have been interesting " Baseball bats , 3 of , Knuckledusters 5 of "

In the end we paid off the outstanding debt 3 weeks later

His little visit and the reduction of our credit limit cost his company several million pounds worth of lost business in the following years

Accountants good at ' counting '

that explains it then, it's all the accountants fault.

Typical of you Pete.....i was amazed that you gave me the free ticket for the Batley game

It's false. Accountants are great people, despite what that hosepipe wielding former Leigh Director would have you believe.

It was obvious Widnes would post a loss around 1 Million after sorting out the mess of the previous regime. They are a well run organization off the field and have some of the most passionate fans in the game who you can have a bit of banter with usually without any problems during and after the game. Good for them that they have a guy on board who loves the game and Widnes. What impressed me was the way Widnes got on with things after the big disappointment of not being in SL. Gracious and respectful. Its a shame some Fax fans seem to be looking for any negatives about Widnes and other teams. I would expect Widnes to make a profit next year and hope they are successful in their aim of getting in to SL. Fax are a long way off Widnes despite all the good work going on.

zzzzzz..zzzzzzzz

Your a total idiot.

Thankyou a honest fan.I hope you and leigh competitive again.Unfortunanetly you always get someone sniping at another club.Maybe if just had promotion and relegation every year be no bitter fans.Think this franchise business has made fans bitter and hating each other more.I was gutted widnes not got in a the celtic got in but hey ho life can be crap at times.

I meant competitive again next year mate as love the games with fax and leigh and the atmoshere.