Thank you for your comment John , as you so rightly say , what I say is mostly .tongue in cheek , im just trying to raise spirits and never rise to insults and name calling , mine is just Banter , I do love most Fax Fans as you again say , im as shocked as the rest of you about yesterdays result , and think everyonv is entitled to their opinions about the Coaching Staff .At Leigh I have only ever called for one Coaches head and that was for personal reasons , but to so-call slag off players and Coaching Staff is very Churlish .I heard Big Karl on radio Leeds after the game and he said his pride was Hurt , nobody likes to lose ,Fax are going through a bad patch , it happens , anyway if Quinny , and The Enforcer want to insult me , its their prerogative , im not not going to lose any sleep , hope to see you at the LSV in June , its apparently been made into a midweek game now on the Wednesday , keep smiling John , take care Mate .

Karl needs to shoulder some responsibility, he's blaming players far too much, and the BOD need to accept that unless Karl decides to leave of his own accord, they will have to get rid of a Hall of Famer at some point in the not too distant future. Its just not working out for anyone down there, they gave it a try. Murrell is lazy and the debacle with Simon Brown is all i need to see. Lee Greenwood isn't ready to coach a club of Halifax's size and expectation and I suspect Karls best days of getting hands on during training are now a thing of the past, i'm sure a beasting was fair play 20 years ago.
There's a distinct lack of ambition down there, and a huge stench of apathy. It'll all end in tears if were not careful.

I'm usually sticking up for KH and glass half full but even I am wodering how a performance like yesterday can be accepted?!

I won't be travelling on Sunday. Felt like I had been robe of £15.00 yesterday.

In my view Harrison and his staff have to go. I'm sick and tired of listening to his lame excuses via the media on the back of defeats. It's always the same with him.

Looking from the outside it looks as though the players don't even want to play for him and who can blame them. We hate watching 5 drives and a dodgy kick and no doubt they hate playing it.

Harrison has proved time and time again that tactically he isn't up to it. Look at the Leigh game the other week, we destroy them in the first half with a lovely expansive game and them in the second half we go to five drives and a kick and invite Leigh onto us. His constant chopping and changing of the starting 13 is farcical. Does anyone on here know our best 13?! Harrison certainly doesn't.

This past week we've seen Fev who lose twice to Leigh in a fortnight swing the axe and get rid of Bastian. You just can't see our board doing the same.

People on here have said now is the wrong time to sack Harrison but I couldn't disagree more. The style of rugby that is been played is not worth the £18 admission fee. I go to be entertained not be bored. And as a result I won't be putting anymore money into the club until a change is made.

We all know that the top 2 spots are beyond us now and we're going to be playing some very poor teams next year in front of very low crowds, which will be another nail in our coffin.

People say we're a sleeping giant, at present we're dead man walking and I only fear for our future.

We will still be playing the same teams as this year, plus London and most likely Bradford. The top two just gives you more money next year which in theory should help to get you into the top 4 before the leagues split. I agree with the rest of your post though!

John, I wouldn't dream of giving legal advice, that would be like a Solicitor giving his opinion on rugby in the programme notes



For the record John I can tell you that I would have no problem telling people what I think, manning up I think was the phrase you used. There's a line and I wouldn't cross it.

As for your mate Krusty the Clown, if you think that's banter, fair enough....do you watch a lot of Mr Bean?

The inner sanctum is out of touch, the peasants have had enough.

The reality is with support of around 1000 to 1500 and the BOD and main financial backer being slagged off when things don't work out and contemplating walking away we won't have the money to do anything.

The reality is we won't be attracting any new interested parties that are better than what we have now, coaching, backers or otherwise and should we be surprised. No.

Who is responsible, everybody in one way or another, the club is fast becoming divided against itself.

The reality is we are being left behind by our nearest rivals in our division and we won't have a cat in hells chance in a league based play off against them and the clubs from Super League.

That's what's next unless by some miracle "the club" and that means everybody can turn it around.

lol

or aka mr tumble

Is It Just Me ?

I always thought that Rugby Clubs were open and transparent
that Directors directed.
that Coaches coached
that Players played
that Scoring was the aim ( I always find it very enjoyable )
and that Supporters supported.

Now I find that Directors stick their heads in the sand
Coaches "devise a game plan" and stick to it no matter how it is working out.
Players stick to the game plan (unless they lose in which case they havent)
Building Pressure is better than attempting to score
Defence wins matches ( I thought that scoring points won matches)
and Supporters are taken for mugs ( The more loyal, the bigger the mugs )

Silly Me

Shall I go to Rochdale next Sunday or visit Billy Smarts Circus on The Moor.
I would probably see more entertaining rugby at the circus, but fewer clowns.

Billy Smarts Circus





how dare you .

For Quinny and Making plans 4 Nigel , do you think Mr Spocks ears are his Own

?

These are not my normal eyes , are your ear lobes really so large.

Never noticed them

Krusty, if you want to come on another clubs forum and make a worthwhile contribution, all well and good. At the moment I'd say you seriously need to up your game. Have a few weeks off on the coast and think of some new material or the odd punch line and we'll see how you get on.

Anyway back on topic......Harrison out!

Trouble is I don't do name calling ,and what make you think the RUBBISH you post on here is better than the RUBBISH I post ?Rubbish is Rubbish no need to up my game .As for Harrison Out

Don't you think the guy is hurting just as much as you Fax fans ?I have many Friends on the Fax Forum , and again don't need any time off .Charlie knows .

.Hope to see you at the LSV in June , just ask for me in Legends Bar .

Thanks for the offer Krusty, but I'll pass on that thanks. The thought of leaving work early, tackling the M62 and watch us getting beaten up on the park really doesn't grab me. Anyhow I think I'd be seriously out of my depth once the banter started flying about between you and the other Fax lads.

You'd like to think Karl is hurting, but is that the point? KH has had plenty of time and (in my opinion) made a right balls of it. To be fair he's in good company, for some time now you can count on 1 hand the number of things they've got right down there. The same people doing the same things with the same results. Oh and before any of the 'club' within the club pipe up, we've heard it all before.

My hope would be that the BOD have already called an emergency meeting to discuss playing matters. Everything else should be put on hold. The current situation is unacceptable and people need to be held to account and if necessary moved on.

The fans deserve to know where the BOD stand, back him or sack him.

Repost one of yours which is worthwhile please.
What about your Manager, as you didn't get to Wembley do you want him out?

Been at the cooking sherry again John?

I've just watched some of the 2010 Grand Final. You can say we had more classy players on board then, but there were more offloads in most sets of 6 than we see in most full games, the guys ran in hard every time, we took on the line, and had players backing up at speed in support of any breaks.

The defence was probably on a par with what we see nowadays, but it was exciting and enjoyable to watch, and there was always a real chance of something happening from any part of the pitch. Shad just staying in play on our line and Rob scoring a full length of the pitch solo try on the next play sums that up.

I do think we've got a decent set of players now, albeit not with the collective flair that we had then, but they seem to have had any concept of using their individual talent coached out of them in the interests of following a "game plan".

We know that respecting the ball in our own half is important (we did use to have a go at Matt C's team about that!), but when we get over the half way line, we need to be far more expansive and try different things. Even "building pressure" can sometimes be important, but each game is different, and being able to adapt during play without sticking to a restrictive playing style is so crucial.

No disrespect to NWC, but they were there for the taking on Sunday, and we could/should have put 40+ points past them. My prediction pre-match was 46-12 .... I got the 12 right!

I repeat.
Repost one of your comments which is worthwhile.
Your simply trying to cause trouble.

I don't think I'm doing too bad John at the moment thanks. I'm sure at over four thousand posts you've had the odd worthwhile post.

You say I'm on here to cause trouble, I say I'm on here to challenge the cosy consensus which has built up on here and doesn't reflect what a lot of loyal Fax fans think and feel.

To be honest though mate I don't think anyone is feeling "cosy" about much to do with Fax these days.

If anything concerning the "Back Him or Sack Him" thought the consensus is leaning more to "Sack Him".

I'm sure it will have at least been considered.

As stated before something just doesn't seem right and not knowing all the facts there is quite logically a difference of opinion whether that would be the best thing to do at the moment.

It may well be but it could make things worse, with the benefit of hindsight we would all be able to make the right choices, trouble is we don't have it until after the event.

Where has Krusty the monotonously, odius banal clown gone? Ccome back - nearly on 7000 posts!

This situation stinks. After asking what he perceived to be the problem in the camp, certain ex-Fax player said to me as he left, "I wish I could tell you even half of it mate". Needless to say, I feared the worst.

Thanks Karl but toodle pip. We berated Matt C but at least we had flair. Why can't the BOD get someone with some financial clout in tow?

because we're skint

Im impressed Mr Discouraged , those are big words coming from you , myself I never stoop to Playground name calling , you see im better than that ,you tried to correct me over my OWN name

till I pointed out a couple of Facts to you then you vanished

now you return name calling and being insulting , I have Never had a go at you , but if it makes you feel better feel free to do so .