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Quote ="FevGrinder"Starbug,
You are so spot on
However what choice do Fax/Leigh/Fev/Sheffield have but to apply though? Since if they don't all it can do is harm any application in 2014, when the next set of licences come round. Unless all these clubs all turn round and say NO - not applying then the ones that don't will potentially be at a disadvantage in 2 years time, and therefore they all will do the bidding that SL want and as you say "justify" their decision to keep Northern in SL.
Unfortunately every club is in it for themselves (even at our level, where we have Fev fans belittling Fax, Fax fans belittling Leigh and Leigh fans belittling Fev, etc.
 ). When the reality is for all our clubs to survive and prosper we should all be pulling together in the same direction trying to help each other. For example if all the championship clubs went on mass to a single clothing manufaturer for replica kits to sell I wonder how much better a deal we could get with the combined barganing rather than doing it a individual clubs?'"
We've put out a (slightly cynical!) statement saying we're not getting involved.
www.sheffieldeagles.com/index.ph ... Itemid=490
For a start there would be no point because we're simply not ready (playing staff, crowd size, overall infastructure), work has been going into launching a credible bid for the 2015 round of licenses since the day we qualified for the grand final last season, and the club feels that launching one now would be impractical towards the bid for the next full round of licensing.
If Fax/Fev/Leigh did bid to play in SL next season I'd back them, but there's no way they're going to get rid of Bradford, imho. |
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Quote ="FevGrinder"Starbug,
You are so spot on
However what choice do Fax/Leigh/Fev/Sheffield have but to apply though? Since if they don't all it can do is harm any application in 2014, when the next set of licences come round. Unless all these clubs all turn round and say NO - not applying then the ones that don't will potentially be at a disadvantage in 2 years time, and therefore they all will do the bidding that SL want and as you say "justify" their decision to keep Northern in SL.
Unfortunately every club is in it for themselves (even at our level, where we have Fev fans belittling Fax, Fax fans belittling Leigh and Leigh fans belittling Fev, etc.
). When the reality is for all our clubs to survive and prosper we should all be pulling together in the same direction trying to help each other. For example if all the championship clubs went on mass to a single clothing manufaturer for replica kits to sell I wonder how much better a deal we could get with the combined barganing rather than doing it a individual clubs?'"
We've put out a (slightly cynical!) statement saying we're not getting involved.
www.sheffieldeagles.com/index.ph ... Itemid=490
For a start there would be no point because we're simply not ready (playing staff, crowd size, overall infastructure), work has been going into launching a credible bid for the 2015 round of licenses since the day we qualified for the grand final last season, and the club feels that launching one now would be impractical towards the bid for the next full round of licensing.
If Fax/Fev/Leigh did bid to play in SL next season I'd back them, but there's no way they're going to get rid of Bradford, imho. | |
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Quote ="E.S.O"We've put out a (slightly cynical!) statement saying we're not getting involved.
www.sheffieldeagles.com/index.ph ... Itemid=490
For a start there would be no point because we're simply not ready (playing staff, crowd size, overall infastructure), work has been going into launching a credible bid for the 2015 round of licenses since the day we qualified for the grand final last season, and the club feels that launching one now would be impractical towards the bid for the next full round of licensing.
If Fax/Fev/Leigh did bid to play in SL next season I'd back them, but there's no way they're going to get rid of Bradford, imho.'"
Thats a good call and if all other clubs pulled together and said if Bradford lose their place, we will submit a bid, otherwise its a pointless excercise as theres only one winner. |
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Quote ="E.S.O"We've put out a (slightly cynical!) statement saying we're not getting involved.
www.sheffieldeagles.com/index.ph ... Itemid=490
For a start there would be no point because we're simply not ready (playing staff, crowd size, overall infastructure), work has been going into launching a credible bid for the 2015 round of licenses since the day we qualified for the grand final last season, and the club feels that launching one now would be impractical towards the bid for the next full round of licensing.
If Fax/Fev/Leigh did bid to play in SL next season I'd back them, but there's no way they're going to get rid of Bradford, imho.'"
Thats a good call and if all other clubs pulled together and said if Bradford lose their place, we will submit a bid, otherwise its a pointless excercise as theres only one winner. | |
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| Quote ="Starbug"But this isnt a round of licensing, in a statement from the Leigh Chairman read out at a fans forum 3 weeks ago, he mentioned this ' process ' and in part of that he suggested that Fev would struggle because their stadium wasnt suitable , while not incorrect it was IMO a tactless thing to say, how happy would he be if the Fev Chairman suggested Leigh werent ready given we needed the RFL to pay our tax bill directly out of our central funds
Things like this drive a wedge between clubs and fans, clubs and fans that should be working together, not comparing our shortcomings in an effort to score points against each other, that should remain on the pitch only'"
All your chairman has done there is show he isnt upto to speed with things, our stadium is being renovated as we speak and will be fit for purpose by the start of next season with over 5k covered seats and a 9k capacity, a maximum size pitch and my m8 has today measured up for some purpose built vip units complete with kitchen equipment. Its our ground and all the proseeds from food and drink will be ours. I would say the stadium that your chairman says will keep us out is our main assett. he really should keep up |
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| Quote ="gingdong"and my m8 has today measured up for some purpose built vip units complete with kitchen equipment. '"
I had my house measured up for a conservatory about 3 years ago. I still haven't had one built. |
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| Quote ="gingdong"All your chairman has done there is show he isnt upto to speed with things, our stadium is being renovated as we speak and will be fit for purpose by the start of next season with over 5k covered seats and a 9k capacity, a maximum size pitch and my m8 has today measured up for some purpose built vip units complete with kitchen equipment. Its our ground and all the proseeds from food and drink will be ours. I would say the stadium that your chairman says will keep us out is our main assett. he really should keep up'"
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| Quote ="gingdong"All your chairman has done there is show he isnt upto to speed with things, our stadium is being renovated as we speak and will be fit for purpose by the start of next season with over 5k covered seats and a 9k capacity, a maximum size pitch and my m8 has today measured up for some purpose built vip units complete with kitchen equipment. Its our ground and all the proseeds from food and drink will be ours. I would say the stadium that your chairman says will keep us out is our main assett. he really should keep up'"
My point being he shouldnt have passed comment. It was tactless, wether he is right or not is irrelivant |
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See what the RFL have done?
Divide and conquer
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| Quote ="Bubba"I had my house measured up for a conservatory about 3 years ago. I still haven't had one built.'"
That is the problem we are sufering from the Cas / Wakey syndrome, the lies and the bullshiiiite. Trust me ours is happening the steelwork for the stands is being put together now as soon as the play off game is over the railway end will be bulldozed |
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| Quote ="gingdong"That is the problem we are sufering from the Cas / Wakey syndrome, the lies and the bullshiiiite. Trust me ours is happening the steelwork for the stands is being put together now as soon as the play off game is over the railway end will be bulldozed'"
I thought it already had.
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| Quote ="a.n Other"Thought the min capacity had to be 12k?'"
The 12k limit ws scrapped by the RFL, I got told afterthe the stands are erected we just need to lower the height of the perimiter fence and instal crush barriers to make it 9k which will be adequate for us |
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| Quote ="Starbug"My point being he shouldnt have passed comment. It was tactless, wether he is right or not is irrelivant[/quot
I get your point m8, but i think as a club chairman he should be factual when making public statements when they concern they clubs
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I thought it already had.
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| Quote ="gingdong"The 12k limit ws scrapped by the RFL, I got told afterthe the stands are erected we just need to lower the height of the perimiter fence and instal crush barriers to make it 9k which will be adequate for us'"
When did they announce that? I havent seen anything. |
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| Quote ="a.n Other"When did they announce that? I havent seen anything.'"
Me neither. It was certainly still in force at the last round of licensing. |
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| Quote ="gingdong"The 12k limit ws scrapped by the RFL, I got told afterthe the stands are erected we just need to lower the height of the perimiter fence and instal crush barriers to make it 9k which will be adequate for us'"
Adequate for you, yes, but not for SL. |
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I am also aware of the divide and conquer policy within the RFL, I also passionately believe in 2x10 as the logical inclusive structure for the game but as it stands Fev would never be considered for a SL licence due to the ground, local road infrastructure and its parking limitations.
I applaud the work they are doing, I applaud the recent onfield achievements, I applaud the crowd growth but POR will never host SL in its current format, even with the 'new' stands - and that is wrong btw.
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I dont know why you guys are argueing over who will get into SL and why etc.Its a closed shop unless the RFL want it to change which i doubt that will happen for a very long time.The scenario is thank you for your bids fev,fax and leigh but bradfords is the best goodbye and dont bother bidding in 2015 because unless we want a team to be ejected you will not be getting in.
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| Quote ="Thundergaz"I dont know why you guys are argueing over who will get into SL and why etc.Its a closed shop unless the RFL want it to change which i doubt that will happen for a very long time.The scenario is thank you for your bids fev,fax and leigh but bradfords is the best goodbye and=#FF0000 dont bother bidding in 2015 because unless we want a team to be ejected you will not be getting in.'"
As far as I remember that nice Mr Wood stated a Championship Club WILL be entering SL in 2015 |
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| Quote ="maurice"=#FF0000I am also aware of the divide and conquer policy within the RFL, I also passionately believe in 2x10 as the logical inclusive structure for the game but as it stands Fev would never be considered for a SL licence due to the ground, local road infrastructure and its parking limitations.
I applaud the work they are doing, I applaud the recent onfield achievements, I applaud the crowd growth but POR will never host SL in its current format, even with the 'new' stands - and that is wrong btw.'"
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| Quote ="Starbug"As far as I remember that nice Mr Wood stated a Championship Club WILL be entering SL in 2015'"
That nice mr wood is like a politician though starbug he says one thing and does the totally opposite  But to be honest i hope your right starbug i hope one of us 3 do get in and to be honest i dont care which 1 of us it is because if 1 of us gets in it will change the whole no entry situation hopefully.But if 1 of us replace bradford im sure it will only be for 2 years as im sure bradford will be fast tracked to get back in at 1 of us 3s expense. |
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| Quote ="Thundergaz"I dont know why you guys are argueing over who will get into SL and why etc.Its a closed shop unless the RFL want it to change which i doubt that will happen for a very long time.The scenario is thank you for your bids fev,fax and leigh but bradfords is the best goodbye and dont bother bidding in 2015 because unless we want a team to be ejected you will not be getting in.'"
Can't argue with any of that.
I just wish that the RFL would be honest about it and state categorically that SL is closed to new applicants. At that point the Championship clubs may at last get together and plan for the future.
All this "Destination Superleague" etc. from all our clubs is embarrassing as it simply will not happen.
The Bradford debacle has now proved, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that it is impossible to be ejected from SL and, ergo, for a place to become vacant. |
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| Quote ="Fax Machine"Can't argue with any of that.
I just wish that the RFL would be honest about it and state categorically that SL is closed to new applicants. At that point the Championship clubs may at last get together and plan for the future.
=#FF0000All this "Destination Superleague" etc. from all our clubs is embarrassing as it simply will not happen.
The Bradford debacle has now proved, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that it is impossible to be ejected from SL and, ergo, for a place to become vacant.'"
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| Quote ="Starbug"So why ' feed ' it with this post ?'"
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| Quote ="freddies wig"See what the RFL have done?
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The RFL didn't need to do owt.
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