Cant watch it as our car doesnt have a t.v, il just sit back and think of how good ben black is handling the rugby ball when running alone to the line

Come on - no one on here actually believes you went to the game or your in a car with "mates".

You would be better served in sitting back in the car thinking "thank " because Ben Black does length of the field tries many, many times and you should thank "god", "allah", "Mohammed" and the Buddah that he chose to have his error today, or you would have been sat in the car crying.

We played poorly today. Widnes made very few mistakes - we made loads. They did the basics, we were lethargic and then panicky. Ref aside, they deserved their victory today. Will we have the character to come back and take the big trophy at the end of the season? I think so.

Jiffy Davies spends half his time slagging off the Widnes team when the chips are down. He's not a true fan.

Good to see some sense being talked on here for a change. You are absolutely right we just didnt take the chances we gave ourselves.

now now i only do it when they deserve it

Ignoring the referee , who was poor.Just some early thoughts.
Give Widnes credit - the first half they were by far the better side;they tackled well,drove the ball in well and with their big men certainly made life difficult for us- they made few mistakes.Us , on the other hand , were poor -too many forced passes,drop ball etc; was that because of them or was it just an off day - i dont know.20-6 down after 50mins i thought game over, but we then started playing;moving the ball wide , great support play,everything stuck.Dont blame Ben, yes he should have scored but thats rugby.Other players missed tackles , passed poorly etc-alas , like a striker who misses an open goal, the game will be remembered for his mistake.Hes' won many games for us in the past and will win more in the future.
Well done Widnes overall you played well and in Thrackeray a quality player.

I think it's a myth that it was only Halifax that bombed good chances today. We were held up over the line a few times in the first half (didn't see who as it was t'other end of the field) Dodd knocked on with the line begging, Penny should have skinned the full back instead of dithering and Hall knocking on over the line and would have been a certain try. I think Halifax's indiscipline stemmed from the fact that they thought they would be playing the same Widnes side as earlier in the season. Widnes are far from the finished article but they are no longer the [ifive drives and a kick [/imerchants of a few months ago.

dont see why some faxfans are bitting at what some widnes fans are saying on here



being a fax fan for 27 years ive been lucky to go to some finals and see them win and lose . but i think alot of people a missing the bigger picture .

as a club we have three years to get it right and in my eyes that means winning the league and the grand final three years in a row . not a tin pot cup in blackpool.

well done widnes for the win today and good luck for the final , but i know which cups i would like my team to be lifting at the end of the season and this one wasnt the one on top of my list

its about time some fan fans stopped gobbing off on other message boards about how good we are , etc etc . then split the dummy out when them fans come on here and give u back .

and one final point matt calland keep your mouth shut the next time u want to make a sweeping statement

top thread apart from the tin pot cup thing.

You dont have three years dude you only have 2, the decision regards franchises will be made mid part of the third year. So it's this year or next.

that's about 15 years less than i have been a chemic, we are still betteer than you .................................

I don't think. We have been told that silverware will count in the final analysis for SL status so to suddenly say following this defeat it doesn't matter is stupid. It could not be more important for everybody associated with the club that we win something to really kickstart our SL challenge. But most worrying is that when the really important matches come along we seem to go AWOL big time. For such an important game we needed to start well and we didn't. Widnes they were much more professional and fully deserved to win. Anybody who says otherwise is deluding themselves. But in the final analysis today was another opportunity to show the RL world we are a force to be reckoned with and we blew it (again) This match could be a pivotal moment in a season that promised so much and ultimately fails to deliver. OK the season is a long way from over but I am beginning to feel the early season promise is beginning to falter along with naive comments that we are the best team `by a country mile'

Why is it stupid what I pointed out . Who said if we had
won yesterday that we would have won the final . Also
would the RL over look a team that won the league and
grand final three times , than one which won the tin cup

Yes.

If I've read it right . The RFL said you don't have to have won a "Tin Cup" or a "Grand Final". But you must have contested one. So one box not Ticked yet.

There's a a weird atmosphere at your gaff. having one good season (so far) in the I don't know how many you've been poor/getting your act together, doesn't make put you in a better position than anyone else for SL qualification.

be good if Widnes and Fax both went up but if you're judging it on recent history, then Widnes are more likely to get the nod.

Lets hope they just go on the merits of both clubs, and then kick Salford, Wakey and Celtic out.

No, you have to have won it really. I can't see a team that hasn't won wanything in the next two seasons being taken seriously.

But that's irrelevant until you get your reserve and youth set-up sorted as I'm convinced that's where a franchise (which I remain implacably opposed to) will be won or lost for Championship clubs.

But I don't give a damn. I want our club to win every trophy it enters because it's there to be won. I'm sorry fans of other clubs don't feel the same really. Frankly, I don't give a fig what division we are in.

I am not sure you are correct.

I think the criteria was "have to have appeared in a final". So Widnes and Barrow have ticked that box.

It just wasnt to be for us again but well done Widnes, I hope you all enjoy Blackpool

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It was actually "Finished in the top 2, appeared in the GF, or won the NRL cup" So a mixture of both really!

They then said "a top 3 finish may be acceptable in certain cases" or words to that effect - think the certain cases will be if your french....

I think you miss my point. Whatever it says in reality, it is my opinion that if a Championship side hasn't won a trophy this season or next, it will not have a chance, unless there is something ridiculously over-riding and compelling reason otherwise. A point Mama Kangaroo picked up on!

I believe it's either win the NRC or appear in the GF.

Or whatever rule they have changed it to by then.