Ipape is very quick from a standing start , he scored a length of the field try against GB 3 years ago , and has a big pack , who are mobile.
Lammy will get us moving playing the right teams , we have played Fev , York ,and Fax away , only Batley now of the challenging teams , no disrespect to the others of course .
As for our halves, Mellor has had a great start to the season , yeah Reynolds a bit quiet , but Hingano is a half, Ipape can play at 6 , and as I’ve said we have a couple of signings to announce soon ,one being a half.But time will tell .

What we are talking? Some lads from the NRL? I wanted to know actually how 'reliant' the business is on Beaumont - Does it concern you as a fan as to whether with him at the helm you can build a sustainable team and culture? It was good to see Chester coming in as football manager so guess he is thinking more long term

How many overseas players do Leigh have on their books. I thought there was a quota?

There is a quota but apparently only in SL , in the Championship it is open .

At least one is Fro the NRL , I’m not concerned in any way about Derek , yes we are totally reliant on him , without him we would still be around in the Championship but spending a fraction of what Derek spends , so it’s obvious really , no Derek no Leigh Centurions as we know it , he is vital to the Club ,but by bringing in Chester and Lammy he doesn’t have the clout he had with Jukesy and Duffy .Lammy apparently gave Derek a list of players he wanted , before he signed up as Coach ,and Derek signed most of them .

Derek is a good bloke , makes a lot of non publicised donations to many good causes , is devoted to Leigh Centurions , it’s a shame the RFL won’t let us have an Academy side .
And to answer how many imports we have at Leigh , I reckon 10.

The distribution of half backs around the league seems much more even than in previous years which is partly why the likes of Leigh and Fev are beatable if everything goes right on a given day.

Mellor's very good on his day but inconsistent like most half backs, and in my view there are at least ten half backs in the league who are of similar ability level to Reynolds.

We have chopped and changed our half backs at Fev and whilst they have been steady none have really been outstanding so far.

Fax seem better at half back than in previous years and I have been surprised by Aston who seems to be playing better than he has ever done.

York have healthy half backs this year unlike last year and they have all had their moments.

Gilmore at Batley and Patton at Bradford are both very good players at Championship level, I'm not sure they haven't been at least as good as the halves at Leigh or Fev.

Thackeray is still producing the goods at Sheffield, the Cumbrian teams have some talent too with the likes of Doran, Sammut and Bishop. To me, there isn't a lot of difference between the top dozen or so half backs across the division.

Well i thought we never really gave our selves a chance with dropping the ball on the first and second tackle time and again. And not playing the ball correctly we just couldn't due to these mistakes put any sustained pressure on leigh and then we would back that up with further mistakes like kicking out on the full and giving away penalties which a side like leigh will punish you for. I have to say they are a number of leighs pack i would be more then happy to see play for fax those type of players are exactly what we are missing but they cost the type of money we don't have. The biggest worry for me going forward is we do not seem able to put close to a 80 minute performance in so far this season. The closest we came was fev away where we probably did for 60 minutes but still lost. This as led to a other poor start to a season and we do not seem to have progressed much at all from last season despite having a better squad. I suppose it comes down to if the directors of this club are ruthlessly ambitious or are content with the way things are going i for one are not but i am always happy to be proved wrong. I wonder if this continues would simon do a richard agar and admit he can not get the best out of the squad and resign.

The issue with grixs’ philosophy of moving the ball fast to tire out the big forwards is that when you drop the ball , don’t play the ball correctly give penalties away etc your inviting the big forwards to relentlessly smash into you set after set and therefore that philosophy is being undone by his own players .

We don’t have the big players to compete with the likes of Leigh so we have to do something different; we were not going to beat them in a forward battle. But I’m not sure you can blame a coach for the dropped balls or poor PTB’s. I once recall Malcolm Reilly responding to a heckling fan at Thrum Hall to the effect “what you want me to do, run on and catch the *****ng ball for them?!”. A couple of the missed PTB’s were at a crucial time in the 2nd half (Tangata and Walmsley) but I thought they could have gone the either way with defenders interfering to stop us getting a quick play – but defenders get the benefit now. As for not getting the best out of his players, if anyone is suggesting there was a lack of effort, then they were watching the wrong game.

Personally I agree with grixs’ philosophy, just listening to woodburn halls interview postgame and he acknowledges it’s individual errors that are costing the team , tbh I think Grixs coaching style would suit the super league more . I think some players just aren’t good enough to carry out his instructions.

I was not questioning the effort but this is a results based game and they have overall this season not been good enough. It is all well and good playing fancy rugby but you need to be picking up the points at the same time. I thought yesterdays performance was a step backwards from the featherstone one. I take your point that the coach is not on the pitch dropping the ball but this as been a issue for some time with our style of play and you cant keep going on saying it as nothing to do with the coach the book ultimately as to stop with him.

I think you could well be right about the players he as to find a way to get results first and foremost and then put the icing on the cake. Me personally i don't really have a ideology of how we should play i just want us to win first and foremost and style can come later.

Yesterday we came up against a full time team who also had loan players and a DR player who was man of the match. Looking back and taking that into account it wasn't a bad display. We've got to find a way to cut out the schoolboy errors though. It's as if other teams just play it simple against us and wait to capitalise on on our mistakes. A win on Sunday at Workington is really a must. Up The Fax!

I agree however I think the birth of the expansive rugby started at the rebrand, I remember listening to Lawrence turner who was saying we want to play expansive rugby because we’re in the entertainment industry . Tbh if we trace it all back to the meeting they had at the shay where they discussed what needed to change. I think they identified poor marketing, poor relationships with our local talent etc and obviously poor attendance, the rebrand wasn’t just about a panther it was about getting young blood in and playing entertaining rugby , I suspect Grix a protégé of tony smith style rugby was part of that plan , it might even be the case that he’s been directed to coach that way. Overall it’s a very tricky puzzle to solve with a minimal budget .

For several years under Marshall supporters complained at the boring style of play - we had a fair degree of success often because we usually had a very competitive budget which allowed us to bring in some quality players compared to the majority of the division. With the team assembled now and the more open style of attacking rugby being encouraged there may well be a few hiccups, I also feel though it's the only way to have a chance against the top 2 teams in particular. And while I obviously want Fax to win as many as possible, I feel this team will only get better as they continue to gel, and I'm prepared to live with the odd error when the upside is turning up on Sunday for some excitement rather 5 drives and a kick!

Last nights game is currently being shown free on channel 422, Faxare winning 4/0 at the moment .

With you again I.F.

To all the nay-sayers on here, Bongser thinks that you wouldn't have troubled your, less than industrious, scoreboard operator at all last night had you not played the way you did. You could have knocked on Leigh's front door all night without it being answered, but Grix had spotted that the side gates were ajar - something which Lammy needs to address sooner rather than later.

On last night's showing, the positive results will come and you'll be there or thereabouts come the end of the season.

Well there’s been plenty of doom and gloom on here, to be honest I thought we weren’t far off and the errors really did cost us. I’ll watch it back today and see if what looked contentious tries for Leigh were or weren’t, I’m guessing they were OK as they’ve not been mentioned but didn’t look it from behind the posts. Hopefully if we play like we did and cut the mistakes Worky will be the start of a winning tun.

I couldn`t make it to watch due to a pre-booked holiday. Watched it on tv this morning. Leigh did exactly what I expected from a full time team made up of a set of big athletes. We competed pretty well and has been said most weeks simple errors cost us. I think back to the Calland/Hall era. We played exciting rugby then and I hope that we continue to do so this season. The style Grix has us playing is far more entertaining than latterly played and most teams in The Championship will not be able to cope with it especially now Woody is back. We have the best set of half backs for a while who can play and defend. Perhaps a big forward is missing, no doubt Grix intended that to be the unfortunate Brad Knowles.
I am still confident that we will put some wins under the belt and enjoy the rugby while we do.

Just in that regard, Tangata has been done for incorrect play the balls multiple times this season to which Grix has acknowledged so to me that is a coaching issue. I don't see any lack of effort though like you mention, I just think its a case of been outclassed.

I don't think we were outclassed, beaten by the better team on the night yes, but not hammered. I look forward to the play offs.

no mention of ashworth and mason Out of both ashworth stood out for me and would have him back in the team.
I enjoyed the game some of the players seemed dissapointed to come up short but the effort was there. I predict we will win 9 out of the next 10 games. Optimistic yes but think some one could be on the recieving end of thrashing hope its this sunday

We came up short again. Thought we had narrowed the gap with the signings . On this evidence we have some catching up to do. Didn't think the lads from Huddersfield improved our side. Morris and Co know the calls and are familiar with our plays.
Think Leigh could of gone up a gear if needed. There forwards really got on top .
On this evidence will be happy to finish 6.

Agreed until the last sentence.

When all is said and done i will still be at workington on sunday supporting the club. The point i am making is by not having the players to go through sides up the middle which simon as made the decision not to we are limiting our ways of beating the opposition. This was not just a issue against leigh it as been one for some time which i think should of been addressed by now. By playing the way we are even in dry conditions we will make a fair few errors which i don't mind as long as we are winning. It is not a straight choice between 5 drives and a kick or throwing the ball about its about having a well balanced attack which will make us harder to beat but i don't see that happening.