I wasn't saying that at all. Fax on and off the pitch have tried extremely hard to get it right for the last few years, it's a hell of a job, and we could so easily have ended up with other teams we've been "toe to toe" with in the past like Whitehaven, Workington and Oldham and be in League 1. So it really disses me off when some bozo says he's wasted 20 quid cos Fax couldn't keep pace with a team with 6 times the playing budget including an NRL half back. WTF should anyone think we should get even close?

I totally agree with that to be fair. I just think people are more than fine to voice their opinions within reason no matter how wrong they may seem to be.

Spot on, that's what a forum is for. We all have our own opinion and it's just a debate. Some of us may be just plain wrong, or we might just look at things differently, but the main thing on here is that we all want the very best for Fax.

We were pretty much nailed on to lose this one as they are probably the best team in this league but we put ourselves under too much pressure with poor play. Moss dropping the first high ball, why jump when he was under no pressure ? From then on he was always going to get peppered with high balls.

Thats the thing, when we lose people are just saying that we have done well to get in the top 4 like that is just ok. I think people are well within their rights to moan after a performance like that. As a team I don't see us been capable to beat Salford and I think most people agree on that but it was still a sub standard performance and we would have struggled against a lot of the championship teams if we had played like that.

When it comes to our attack its not just people saying things to have a go the stats for the last 3 years or so speak for themselves. We defend better than most teams but run in to problems if any team can get to the 20 point mark against us as we struggle to get over the line. RM has to find a happy medium in that respect because as good as our defence is our attack is dull and predictable.

You have to look at the bigger picture.Yes us regulars can see why the defeats have occured but we need to double our supporter base to compete properly.I've seen the reaction of people who've given the 8s a go and they won't be coming back after watching that tripe...to quote.

Watching the Toulouse highlights last night is how we need to be attacking

I expect a similar score line against leeds and hull kr tbf

nobody has a dig at the team for losing. But they do have a dig (and rightly so imo) in the manner of the loss.

if we lose and we compete - fine. Losing heavily because of basic skills, not quite as acceptable.

Bottom line is we paid and went through the pain of watching that match with virtually nothing to shout or cheer about so to me everyone is entitled to voice their views on what they have seen . I Can't stomach a trip to Hull KR for what I fear is another heavy defeat but will go to the Leeds match and put money into the clubs coffers . I can only hope that team selection reflects players recent performances not because of who they are or have been. Jones must be sick to death of carrying water give the lad a chance . He cant improve sat watching every week . Anyone know how Baldwinsons injury is?

Fair post that. I'll be off to Hull but I've got to say I'm looking forward to a wander around the Old Town's hostelries as much as the game!

Yes that's the only thing that will get me to hull someone else driving Me drinking-and singing the erasure anthem song at the ground maybe malcs bus is the solution but they will have to put up with me singing the song ..oh dear!

Thankfully I have a prior engagement this weekend, so can't make it. Ditto for the Widnes game, but I'll be there for the Leeds game.

Jackson Hastings showed why he had "problems" at Manley no doubt with that shocker of a stiff arm on O'Brien. Surprised if he doesn't receive at least a 4 match ban for that. You watch now, and see what a massive difference he made to Salford. I bet they lose against Leeds this Friday.

And great effort by the lads today, winning the 2nd half and running in 4 tries. Even the resident moaning minnies can't be too negative today. But then again ……………….

Certainly did create a selection problem for Marshall with Sharp looking twice the player of Moss and us also looking better without Murrell on the field.

Ross Strudwick comments still live on..

Pretty easy for me as Moss/Murrell wouldn't be here next season.

didn't murrell sign a contract extension after the summer bash?

He will be here next year, Moss won't.

Yes