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| Quote ="Fax Machine"So they're gonna come up with around £400k up front to take over the pitch and then try to run the stadium on their own? Don't be so bloody stupid!
All this appears to have come from that dip Flea. I take it "The Consortium" confided in him before proceeding, after all they really need the advice of a Tesco shelf filler (allegedly).'"
There's more to Flea than meets the eye.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Rumour has it that the bid has been put together worse than our SL bid.'"
Rumour is false.I'm told the bid is with legal people to review before submittance.
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| max, on 18 Mar 2015 - 1:37 PM, said:
The tennancy agreement will be paid up and they will no longer be the councils tennants, they will be tennants for another party. Thats what I was told
Not sure who has told you that but that is not true.
The bidder who has enquired about the lease has done so on the understanding that FC Halifax Town are the only long term tenants at the Shay.
The offer submitted is in the hands of the respective legal departments over various issues but it is hoped that an agreement can be found (from both sides) within the next month or so.
The council will then be duty bound to give Halifax RLFC 28 days notice that they intend to cancel their contract due to being in arrears. The council are so keen to do the deal now that they are looking into options to keep the deal alive should the Rugby Club make full payments - which looks like at the moment requesting the Rugby Club pay a deposit on future rent, which will also be matched by the bidder in lue of the Football Club, with that money going towards pitch works.
The Council seem keen to make sure if Halifax RLFC do pay their owed rent they are told if they were to fall more than 3 months in arrears again then they will be out, no second chances, as the bidder will have the right to complete the current offer.
The current bidder has funds ready to transfer to complete the deal. Its a case of waiting on legal and seeing what response from the notice the council get from their next rent reminder and the 28 day notice
From the Town board.
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| Quote ="mr t hall"max, on 18 Mar 2015 - 1:37 PM, said:
The tennancy agreement will be paid up and they will no longer be the councils tennants, they will be tennants for another party. Thats what I was told
Not sure who has told you that but that is not true.
The bidder who has enquired about the lease has done so on the understanding that FC Halifax Town are the only long term tenants at the Shay.
The offer submitted is in the hands of the respective legal departments over various issues but it is hoped that an agreement can be found (from both sides) within the next month or so.
The council will then be duty bound to give Halifax RLFC 28 days notice that they intend to cancel their contract due to being in arrears. The council are so keen to do the deal now that they are looking into options to keep the deal alive should the Rugby Club make full payments - which looks like at the moment requesting the Rugby Club pay a deposit on future rent, which will also be matched by the bidder in lue of the Football Club, with that money going towards pitch works.
The Council seem keen to make sure if Halifax RLFC do pay their owed rent they are told if they were to fall more than 3 months in arrears again then they will be out, no second chances, as the bidder will have the right to complete the current offer.
The current bidder has funds ready to transfer to complete the deal. Its a case of waiting on legal and seeing what response from the notice the council get from their next rent reminder and the 28 day notice
From the Town board.'"
More Flea quotes!
OK. I don't know the guy so I can only go by the continuous strings of vicious bile which he comes out with. He never, ever comes out with anything constructive and manages to turn every thread, even those which are totally non-related, into a Fax bashing session. The boy is obsessed!
My point is that if this proposal is true, why would they provide him, or anyone else, with the details if it is at the discussion stage?
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| No need to guess what would happen if it was the Fax board putting together a proposal like this.
Because it's FC Town you won't here a word raised in objection from them, no plethora of FOI's , no personal and family attacks no banner headline claims of "We saved the Shay as a prized community asset" and "The whole world should be grateful".
As I say, book mark this page it's says it all about the real intent from the extremists on the FC Town board and terraces.
They represent no one but themselves, it makes you want to puke.
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| Quote ="Fax Machine"More Flea quotes!
OK. I don't know the guy so I can only go by the continuous strings of vicious bile which he comes out with. He never, ever comes out with anything constructive and manages to turn every thread, even those which are totally non-related, into a Fax bashing session. The boy is obsessed!
My point is that if this proposal is true, why would they provide him, or anyone else, with the details if it is at the discussion stage?'"
Because he is an integral part of the consortium.
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| Quote ="faxcar"No need to guess what would happen if it was the Fax board putting together a proposal like this.
Because it's FC Town you won't here a word raised in objection from them, no plethora of FOI's , no personal and family attacks no banner headline claims of "We saved the Shay as a prized community asset" and "The whole world should be grateful".
As I say, book mark this page it's says it all about the real intent from the extremists on the FC Town board and terraces.
They represent no one but themselves, it makes you want to puke.'"
I agree.
I wonder exactly what the best proposition was?
1. A consortium putting together a secret bid (apart from leakes) that excludes one of the towns sporting clubs, could end up in running the stadium into disrepair and eventually see the demise of both sporting clubs.
2. A businessman putting together a secret bid that benefits both sporting clubs and the whole of Calderdale
Ask bubba if this is the way to foster relations and draw lines in the sand etc????
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| when does Peter Pan enter this story?
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| Quote ="Bubba"Don't worry, it's a load of rubbish and a no goer even if a bid has been made (which I doubt.)'"
Bubba is in denial that a bid even exists, they haven't even got the guts to face the facts when the facts are completely opposite in every respect to their previous well published claims.
If it's true that is.
If it's not true then they are lying.
Either way the rat is in the trap and it has a big "Hypocrite" slogan on it.
Are these the kind of people you would want to have dealings with and trust anything to, never mind a "Prized Asset".
Again if true.
Take a good look CMBC who you get involved with.
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| I think it's safe to say something is afoot. I wasn't convinced by the way Tony Abbott went about buying The Shay - and let's be honest, he nearly achieved his goal. Who's to say the council won't see this latest twist through to the end. Fax have pushed them to the limit with not paying rent.
I know nothing about the deal but if what is said above is true we must find somewhere else to play or it could be curtains for us!
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| Quote ="freddies wig"I think it's safe to say something is afoot. I wasn't convinced by the way Tony Abbott went about buying The Shay - and let's be honest, he nearly achieved his goal. Who's to say the council won't see this latest twist through to the end. Fax have pushed them to the limit with not paying rent.
I know nothing about the deal but if what is said above is true we must find somewhere else to play or it could be curtains for us!'"
If we either found somewhere else to play OR we ended up folding I think it would also be the end of a stadium in Halifax as it could neither be propped up by the council with one tenant, or be purchased to run with one owner.
I do wonder if other shared grounds are subject to the same absolute hatred from joint tenants.
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| Despite what those silly clowns are cackling about over on their messageboard there is no chance of us being booted out of the shay. The end.
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| Quote ="TheEnforcer273"Despite what those silly clowns are cackling about over on their messageboard there is no chance of us being booted out of the shay. The end.'"
Hear hear...
I'm waiting to see who's playing Widow Ty or Captain Hook in this Pantomime. I'm disappointed in myself for even responding to this thread
Anyway, don't worry, it aint happening.
People can bid, people can speak to legal representatives, its a completely different matter to actually do it.
I shall be putting together a Space Programme during a coffee break tomorrow, anyone interested in any mining work opportunities on Jupiters Moon Europa?
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| There are two issues here.
One is the two faced double standards of a small group of individuals.
The other is the rent issue which the last statement I heard from the Council was that Fax were up to date and the reasons they delayed in the first place was over a perceived discrepancy over the amount being payed by the two siting tenants.
Apart from that historical context how could this new deal be so arranged as to single out one sitting tenant with one set of rules over the other.
Namely that if Fax failed just once to pay up for whatever reason they would be ejected from the ground permanently.
Furthermore with this in place the Council would be free to set the rent amount to whatever they felt like whilst holding a gun to the head of Fax under the banner of "Pay or Die."
No appeal, no discussion, the last time I looked the Council was democratically elected and not some dictatorship. Again if true.
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| Quote ="TheEnforcer273"Despite what those silly clowns are cackling about over on their messageboard there is no chance of us being booted out of the shay. The end.'"
I've just had my first visit onto their message board and I have to say that there are some bitter twisted folk on there. I accept that this, like our boards, only represent a very small minority of fans, but they are full of bile and hatred.
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| Quote ="spanishbob"I've just had my first visit onto their message board and I have to say that there are some bitter twisted folk on there. I accept that this, like our boards, only represent a very small minority of fans, but they are full of bile and hatred.'"
And lets not forget there are a good number of Town fans on our board who would not support such endeavours, but we live in a democracy, they are entitled to the odd dream, even if its anothers nightmare.
p.s Ships Commander and Mining Operations Manager positions are still available, I want to be CEO though, and its my idea.
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Quote ="justthebasicfax"And lets not forget there are a good number of Town fans on our board who would not support such endeavours, but we live in a democracy, they are entitled to the odd dream, even if its anothers nightmare.
p.s Ships Commander and Mining Operations Manager positions are still available, I want to be CEO though, and its my idea.'"
Can I be the cook, pie and chips anyone.
Best get on thread before the off thread Guardianistas arrive.
It's a silly sager not worth discussing, so my only contribution to this subject is to all the Neanderthal's, Bubba and his sycophantic acolytes.
As you can see I believe in an adult approach to matter such as this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e0qYP_PTlY
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p.s Ships Commander and Mining Operations Manager positions are still available, I want to be CEO though, and its my idea.'"
Can I be the cook, pie and chips anyone.
Best get on thread before the off thread Guardianistas arrive.
It's a silly sager not worth discussing, so my only contribution to this subject is to all the Neanderthal's, Bubba and his sycophantic acolytes.
As you can see I believe in an adult approach to matter such as this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e0qYP_PTlY
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| Wow. Just had a read. I had no idea how rabid they are. I find their diatribe hilarious to be honest.
Just remember, these are just lamebrain Wendyballers who have somehow managed to get past the logon stage of a computer. There's a lot of evolution that needs to occur before they "make it on land".
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Quote ="halifaxjohn"Can I be the cook, pie and chips anyone.
Best get on thread before the off thread Guardianistas arrive.
It's a silly sager not worth discussing, so my only contribution to this subject is to all the Neanderthal's, Bubba and his sycophantic acolytes.
As you can see I believe in an adult approach to matter such as this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e0qYP_PTlY'"
I lied, my second and last contribution is, will there be a public debate like Mr Abbott afforded us?
If so will Fax fans be treated as well as Town fans were.
I doubt both.
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Quote ="halifaxjohn"Can I be the cook, pie and chips anyone.
Best get on thread before the off thread Guardianistas arrive.
It's a silly sager not worth discussing, so my only contribution to this subject is to all the Neanderthal's, Bubba and his sycophantic acolytes.
As you can see I believe in an adult approach to matter such as this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e0qYP_PTlY'"
I lied, my second and last contribution is, will there be a public debate like Mr Abbott afforded us?
If so will Fax fans be treated as well as Town fans were.
I doubt both.
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| Quote ="littlerich"Wow. Just had a read. I had no idea how rabid they are. I find their diatribe hilarious to be honest.
Just remember, these are just lamebrain Wendyballers who have somehow managed to get past the logon stage of a computer. There's a lot of evolution that needs to occur before they "make it on land".'"
Personally I never go on their board, it would be like reading the Daily Star, no substance and a lot of t"ts.
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| Quote ="halifaxjohn"Personally I never go on their board, it would be like reading the Daily Star, no substance and a lot of t"ts.'"
None of them seem to understand the long term financial consequence of just having one (them) tenant. If the "pitch buying" consortium simply replace two income streams with theirs the money for the pitch will still have to be stumped up. The council may use these idiots as a foil for getting assured future rent from HXRL but even they are not so stupid as to think that a one tin pot club tenancy is going to be financially viable for the Shay complex.
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| I've read all this rubbish o. Here and the fundamental question is would Town benefit from an improved playing surface?
I'm probably guessing not so what is the point of the exercise?
Pitch is a mess and the worst part is the footy goalmouth which we don't even play on, so in answer to the tirade about us spoiling the pitch, jog on.
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| Quote ="littlerich"Wow. Just had a read. I had no idea how rabid they are. I find their diatribe hilarious to be honest.
Just remember, these are just lamebrain Wendyballers who have somehow managed to get past the logon stage of a computer. There's a lot of evolution that needs to occur before they "make it on land".'"
Its a good job Im thick skinned, or a thick *#!$ as they like to put it.
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| Reading through the pitch thread on the Town forum i sensed a mood of disbelief that the bid could work and that it would be morally wrong anyway.
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