Ouch

Ouch Indeed,the three fingered salute is a scary thought.

Seriously though,you can go bowling anytime you want to,if you choose sunday when the rugby is on then clearly you've not much interest in the rugby anymore

I think he's referring to Flat or Crown Green Bowling.

To be able to afford to go and watch Fax and sit in the East stand next season you will have to save 28.6p a day extra to afford the £2.
Great game great club and worth every penny!!!

Halifax Electric bowl. £9 for two games of bowling and £5 for a jug of Beer. On 2015 prices you have £3 left for some food.

Each to his own, mate. Much as I like bowling I'd rather go and watch Fax. My other passions are MotoGP, which would cost me about £60 and Clay Pigeon Shooting, which costs me around £40. So watching Fax is a bargain really.

Anyway, it seems that all you have to do to cure a Rugby_Aholic is to put the price up by a couple of quid. I wonder if that works with Alc_Aholics as well.....or maybe Nat isn't addicted after all.

If you actually read my posts I have never suggested I am stopping going. I have a season ticket and have every year, however the club can't get by on the hardcore fans. They need new and returning fans. My point (that everyone seems to be ignoring) is why would a new or returning fan choose to come to a Fax game instead of countless other attractions that cost less for more.

Whilst the cost is something of an issue I personally think that value for money is more important and hopefully next season I will be paid back for what I've lost out on in the last couple of years.

I see both sides of this argument, I have already said on this topic that the increase doesn't bother me, but as I say I can see others points.
No one should doubt Nats love and commitment for Fax, he was just pointing out that some people might be put off by the increase in prices.
I would happily pay more for match day admittance but then Halifax RLFC is the only hobby I have that costs me money (sad? Yes I know)
For £143 I can see all the home games plus additional perks.
But, I understand that those casual supporters might find admission costly.
What we need is a flying start, I understand we have already sold three times as many season tickets than last year, that might convince the floaters to return.
But, the new mellow halifaxjohn says don't knock someone for having a fair point to make.
Valium 20mg Mmmmmmm.

Sorry for the late reply John.

Yes, I would say it's the worst season we've had in years & because you asked for the exact number I believe it's four (but it depends what you believe it a successful season of course).

2010 - Finished 2nd & won the Championship final.
2011 - Finished 6th & lost in the NR cup final to Leigh.
2012 - Finished 3rd & won the NR cup final.
2013 - Finished 3rd & reached no finals (lost in semi final against Sheffield).
2014 - Finished 3rd & reached no finals.(lost in quarter final against Dewsbury).

I also don't think I need to provide facts that the attendances have dropped as it's pretty obvious. I also don't think the same applies for all the teams either.

You do say Bradford & London add more competition to a already competitive league, which correct.... but did we compete last season without them?

I respect your points.

heard already lots more season tickets sold than last season.

I think the exact quote was "more sold than during the same period last year".

I wish I knew how many have been sold.

I've bought mine anyway.

Probably not released at the same period last year.

You sort of answer your own question, if you as a committed Fax fan think other 'attractions' cost less and offer "more" than a match involving your own team then you are knackered. If even existing attending fans think the product isn't worth the price?

Bradford has been the crucible for fan plans for many years, and we've done it all, from the heady days of the genius Peter Deakin, who did know how to build and maintain crowds, better than anyone else, right down to the pound-shop cut-price deals that helped nail the coffin.

Personally I can't wait to resume the traditional Bradford-Halifax fixtures, even if we can't play in three foot of Boxing Day snow on Mount Thrum, but posters on your forum are already predicting your biggest crowd of the season against the Bulls, fair enough we'll bring a few but why is this? Nobody knows whether the game will be great, average or , so what will attract them? I'm no Deakin and don't claim to have the answers but it's gotta be that on that day, the price of a RL match offers enough value to floating speccies for them to spend their hard earned.

So it can be done, but nobody is forced to come or to pay, so whatever you do, it needs to convince people such as your good self that the price is worth "more". WHY do you, as a Fax stalwart, nevertheless think "countless other attractions ... cost less for more". "Countless"? Really? If so then something based on whatever those countless attractions do to make you go there, that make you feel you're getting "more" value. If there really isn't a way to attract more speccies with "MORE", then as I said you've answered your own question.

Enough said.

You're wasting your time Nat, some folks just won't be told, only because they have rose-tinted spectacles on or out of loyalty or because they have some sort of connection to the club or it's employee's or staff or volunteers. Your point is valid & you've also stated that you've continued to purchase your S/T next season so in my opinion your comments on this subject are balanced and the comparison you made to an alternative form of entertainment ie; bowling is fair, most of us have other interests.
I'm not mathematician but a raise of £2 onto £15 is approximately 13% increase ( unless someone out there in cyber world wants to question the validity of my use of the word "approximateley ).

This current b.o.d have got some neck in my opinion. If rumours are true that Harrison's Bradford Bulls job offer was made a long time ago, why did they hang onto him for so long ? Did they actually dismiss him & if not, why not ? If they didn't react to the results on the pitch & the decreasing money stream through the lack of speccies paying at the turnstiles by dismissing him, 'cos let's all be honest his brand of rugby is the main reason why folks resisted the temptation to go to games, will they make that mistake again & allow things to spiral downwards like they did over the last couple of years ?
If Harrison, as again local rumours suggest, had offered his resignation months ago ( seemingly when his old pal Jimmy got the Bradford gig ) but was talked out of walking away, why was he & his support team permitted to sign new players for next season ?
As far as i remember, Harrison had a thing about not employing overseas players, yet we learn that some of the new signings announced were negotiated while he was in charge. So what changed there ? Why not come out and redress the orignal policy to supporters & sponsors ? Surely this would have been a positive message.

In an email i sent to four club directors prior to the mid-season point about a few concerns i had, one of the three replies i received asked me to "judge us at the end of the season" which i accepted as the fairest way of doing things and in respect of the structure of the Championships, there is no longer the NRC to compete for, so in terms of was the season sucessful or not, i'd say on the field definately not. In terms of off the field, i wouldn't have a clue but i reckon a wild guess would have been a mile off hitting the break even gate receipts.
Good luck to everyone concerned for next season, i hope this is Mr Marshall's stepping stone into a long & successful career in coaching. I wouldn't have minded having a listen to him at the event this thursday but i'll be working instead. I can already feel a more positive vibe from Fax supporters that i talk to.

I believe that KH never said he didnt want to sign overseas players but said it was in most cases because it cost so much to get them over here and settled.

Ahhhhh, i get you yeah, just like Jim Gannon & Ben Black when he cut them from his roster. The expenses from Claremount & Elland must have had a crippling effect on the club's finances. He did say it, he said it to me with cruder language but i guess it would be unprofessional to use the same terminology in a room full of supporters !

Healthy debate but for me KH era as a coach has gone and whatever opinion he had is not relevant now. Its Richard Marshall's that counts now and we will see what transpires with a team consisting of players from various rugby circles. At least we have some new players we have never heard of putting on the blue and white for the first time.That in itself means we have something different to look forward to-at least at the start of the season.

I thought Gannon retired and he got rid of Black because he was crap in his last season for us? I'd have got rid of both too, not because of them been from overseas but because I thought we could do better. Im not sure where the money would have come from to get an Aussie here over the last few seasons and pay for flights, accomodation, and whatever else they normally demand especially when money wasnt even there for some of the much more needed things.

It's OK GFB's, you can have the last word anytime. I bet you love your own voice.

I'm sure Black earned a fair amount of money but he struggled all year with an injured toe and it was a poor short term decision by Harrison, he certainly brought in no better players.

Ben Black's costs were sponsored by Harvey's,if i remember correctly.