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| Quote ="johnny freeman fan club"Funnily enough though we don`t agree on most things so people who thought that must think I have a split personality.
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Mrs K, you my dear friend are a female. The more beautiful of the two forms of the human race, the more intelligent, the more stubborn, the most capable of multi-tasking. You are most likely to have a split personality hahaha
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| As justthebasicfax falls down the ladder like an end of season run in for the Fax (and the posts go slightly off topic), I hope this subject has turned a few supporters heads.
I'm glad it's not turned sour or personal and I hope that people haven't taken their bat home either. No-one likes being critised I know, especially when they're giving up their own free time and understably feel they are contributing to the cause.
However, there is this perception amongst some fans that some of the backroom staff are part of the fixtures and fittings no matter which coach or players keep coming through that revolving door. Is that healthy or conducive for a club with supposedly SL ambitions?
If the, 'Access all areas' passes were withdrawn, the kit would still get washed, laid out and picked up. They'd be some changes but like everything else, life would carry on. Fans should be in the stands and the pro's in the dug-out. I'm not remotely suggesting this is the reason for the poor season but I am suggesting its not helping and a change might not be a bad thing.
It may be great getting 10 tables of 8 full, and a nice cosy Sunday afternoon in the East Stand but the fans are voting with their feet, theres more atmosphere in Harveys Restaurant than there is in the South Stand at the minute.
I can't believe how bad this season has got and yes I know there's a long way to go. I've been so dissapointed with our player recruitment, man-mangement of players and tatics.... does anyone know if KH enjoys being the coach of Halifax? As someone who stands on the terraces he cuts a distant figure and comes across as a bit of a grump.....it's not working out is it.
We can debate all we want but ultimately it's the decision of the owners and directors to decide how the football club is run. We've got the stadium, we've got the coporate side of things up and running but it's what happens in those 80 minutes that matters the most, everything else should fall in to place.
The little debate that we've just had is one that's been long overdue.
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| Quote ="Making Plans 4 Nigel"As justthebasicfax falls down the ladder like an end of season run in for the Fax (and the posts go slightly off topic), I hope this subject has turned a few supporters heads.
I'm glad it's not turned sour or personal and I hope that people haven't taken their bat home either. No-one likes being critised I know, especially when they're giving up their own free time and understably feel they are contributing to the cause.
However, there is this perception amongst some fans that some of the backroom staff are part of the fixtures and fittings no matter which coach or players keep coming through that revolving door. Is that healthy or conducive for a club with supposedly SL ambitions?
If the, 'Access all areas' passes were withdrawn, the kit would still get washed, laid out and picked up. They'd be some changes but like everything else, life would carry on. Fans should be in the stands and the pro's in the dug-out. I'm not remotely suggesting this is the reason for the poor season but I am suggesting its not helping and a change might not be a bad thing.
It may be great getting 10 tables of 8 full, and a nice cosy Sunday afternoon in the East Stand but the fans are voting with their feet, theres more atmosphere in Harveys Restaurant than there is in the South Stand at the minute.
I can't believe how bad this season has got and yes I know there's a long way to go. I've been so dissapointed with our player recruitment, man-mangement of players and tatics.... does anyone know if KH enjoys being the coach of Halifax? As someone who stands on the terraces he cuts a distant figure and comes across as a bit of a grump.....it's not working out is it.
We can debate all we want but ultimately it's the decision of the owners and directors to decide how the football club is run. We've got the stadium, we've got the coporate side of things up and running but it's what happens in those 80 minutes that matters the most, everything else should fall in to place.
The little debate that we've just had is one that's been long overdue.'"
Wooh, you have done it now!
True though we have as a club under achieved for years and there has to be a reason for that no matter what some people think so change might be needed.
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| Wow - just returned from my jollies and cannot believe how JTBF has been attacked in this way for voicing his opinion. This simply underlines the cronyism that exists at the club.
A number of weeks ago JTBF and I were debating the dramatic slump in form having attended a woeful showing from the boys in a local WMC and some local well-informed opinion from previously long-standing (ex) Fax fans drove home to me how corrosive such cronyism can be notwithstanding how well-intended people's opinions or action were intended to be.
Regardless of this issue, someone has to stop the rot on the field and as asked earlier, does KH even enjoy his job?
Without naming names, someone who is no longer at the club said to me recently "good luck to Fax as they will need it" adding, "I wish I could explain more about what is going on there as you don't know the half of it".
Draw from that what you will.
Love from a saddened and dejected fan of 30 years.
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| Half-Time. Another Fayre of drab rugby served up. Another flat Halifax crowd going through the motions
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| Quote ="jeffvickers"Half-Time. Another Fayre of drab rugby served up. Another flat Halifax crowd going through the motions'"
A game of two halves?
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| Quote ="Encouraged"
Without naming names, someone who is no longer at the club said to me recently "good luck to Fax as they will need it" adding, "I wish I could explain more about what is going on there as you don't know the half of it".
Draw from that what you will.'"
I was told that Tony Abbott is an alien. He was so impressed with the athletic ability of the Fax team early in the season he sent them to his mother ship and replaced them with clones. Those clones have since started to deteriorate and therefore not performing as they were.
Seu-Seu told me that
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| Quote ="Encouraged"Wow - just returned from my jollies and cannot believe how JTBF has been attacked in this way for voicing his opinion. This simply underlines the cronyism that exists at the club.
A number of weeks ago JTBF and I were debating the dramatic slump in form having attended a woeful showing from the boys in a local WMC and some local well-informed opinion from previously long-standing (ex) Fax fans drove home to me how corrosive such cronyism can be notwithstanding how well-intended people's opinions or action were intended to be.
Regardless of this issue, someone has to stop the rot on the field and as asked earlier, does KH even enjoy his job?
=#0000FFWithout naming names, someone who is no longer at the club said to me recently "good luck to Fax as they will need it" adding, "I wish I could explain more about what is going on there as you don't know the half of it".
Draw from that what you will.
Love from a saddened and dejected fan of 30 years.'"
Rewrite, without naming names, someone told ME.
Without naming names, someone who is no longer at the club said to me recently =#0000FF"good luck to Fax adding, "the future looks bright "I wish I could explain more about what is going on there as you don't know the half of it.
No longer at the club but knows what is going on?
Unbelievable.
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| No need to elaborate further other than it was somebody very familiar with the current set up. Good win today however so I hope everybody has stopped sulking now.
Touchy bunch.
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| And John having re-read your post, I hope you are right, I truly do so good on yer.
Conjecture can be as corrosive as cronyism so take what I offered originally with a pinch of salt too.
Knowing JTBF very well, he doesnt have a nasty bone in him so I am sure he meant no harm.
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| Well that was an interesting read, I don't think I know JTBF but it sounds like he was n't having a go a particularly but is just upset at what he's seeing on the pitch, and he's not alone.
I for one would liked to have seen a young coach (Dunemann would have been a good shout) but it didn't happen. The thing is that in my opinion we have gone backwards on the field and this must be firmly placed at the feet of the coaching staff. I can't think of anybody who has improved in the last 2 years either and that is very worrying because off the pitch the club has moved forward.
The question now is where do we go from here and to progress I think the coaching needs to be looked at, if we bring in top players will they just be given a drive and kick gameplan? Who knows, but please ask the question before it is too late and we end up with another towelling in front of nobody in South Yorkshire.
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| Quote ="Norman Bates"Well that was an interesting read, I don't think I know JTBF but it sounds like he was n't having a go a particularly but is just upset at what he's seeing on the pitch, and he's not alone.
I for one would liked to have seen a young coach (Dunemann would have been a good shout) but it didn't happen. The thing is that in my opinion we have gone backwards on the field and this must be firmly placed at the feet of the coaching staff. I can't think of anybody who has improved in the last 2 years either and that is very worrying because off the pitch the club has moved forward.
The question now is where do we go from here and to progress I think the coaching needs to be looked at, if we bring in top players will they just be given a drive and kick gameplan? Who knows, but please ask the question before it is too late and we end up with another towelling in front of nobody in South Yorkshire.'"
I thought this one had been put to bed, however if you go back to the original post it is the attack on the backroom staff that angered most people,
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| Fair enough, we should all be able to get along for the common good of the Fax but there will always be disagreements, though I fully support the excellent work done by the backroom team.
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