Andy , Widnes being ' mid table ' has nothing to do with concentrating on your academy , crap coaching and heartless players is the real reason

Mate i am joking with the Fax fans, as makes me smile because they are now crap like Widnes.To be honest i like to see a winning team, and even though we are going up i hate the franchise system.I do not mind losing if some effort, but i feel some players have had a bad attitude in a Widnes shirt.

The Players i would definatly try and retain for next season are:

Penky, White, Greenwood, Worrincy, Fieldhouse, Aizue, Gannon ( if he has a year left as does go forward well ) Chandler.

Also i would have Nash back with s caveat in his contract that ( he must be here for pre-season as opposed to missing it from going home ) and also he must be Fit not FAT !!.

Agree with you on most of the above, would keep Bannister too. Also would let Miles go, he is not good enough.

Oh i think he is, Young fella with lots of Tallent, Had a horrible injury that has kept him out of the game for too long but getting back into it now. I think with the support of others around him and great coaching both him and fieldhouse could and really should excel.

Not this again GFB!

Do you really think that the best bid by a championship club, with no financial backer, could beat even the worst super league club licence bid?

Yes, wakefield have spun a few lines about a stadium and gone into adminstration but look at it sensibly.

They are a full time club with a full time set up both on and off the pitch and in the office and have been for three years. They have a backer. They have a junior system with full player pathway that has been running with sky money for three years. It produces super league players. They have crowds double ours and can prove it. Their sponsorship portfolio will embarass ours. They probably have better corporate incomes than us, even in that shed of a stadium.

Of course Halifax won't release details of their bid. How embarrassing is it for them that the club expected to be kicked out beat them?

And maybe the RFL HAVE told Halifax to "toe the party line". How embarrassing is it for the RFL to let things slide to such a stage that the weakest in SL is still so much stronger than the strongest in the championship?

Can hardly blame the BOD for not getting involved in that c@@p to be honest, and fair play to them I say!

It hurts like hell Freddie , but you are right , it is almost impossible to match any SL club like for like , the administration rule change made sure of that , all we can do is try our best to build what we have , then see what happens

5 h1 t , but all we have got

Also starbug, unless we have a local boy done good like SOC, how we can possibly expect to attract investors to a club that is seemingly going nowhere!

Imagine that in the board room -

"So if I invest my hard earned millions into the club, get everything in place, the club will be playing with the big boys and the club, and therfore me and my business get maximum exposure?"

"Er, well, not necessarily. It all depends upon if the RFL want us there, whether we've done everything or not!"

Bite your hand off wouldn't they?

I imagine the people at Probiz have been trying to find us an investor, not exactly fighting over it are they?

The ' investor ' we are courting at the moment , has more on his mind than just buying a money pit for ever , he is apparently investing several million in a ' youth zone ' in conjunction with Dave Whelan at Robin Park , he is a seriously rich man , I doubt he'd be happy to just have us bumping along in the Championship

Wether this is a deciding factor I don't know , but he has shown interest in purchasing a SL club in the past