Ya never know we might just get that attendance tomorrow

i wonder what they will do if we get over 4,000 in tommorow. sounds to me like they are using that as there excuse, just to make them squirm we should turn up in big numbers and force them to use another excuse

There might be more to it that what you think, or think you know on this particular thorny subject.

The RFL will just add to the rule all member clubs must have had attendances of over 2500 for at least 7 co=operative league games

Thats what i meant

does greg florimos boots ever say anything positive.? . Ive only been a member a short while but I thought this was a site for fans? with fans like him the club might as well call it a day now cos they'll never be able to please him

If you read my comment i think you will find the answer sherlock.

You are right though this is a site for fans and having only missed a handful of games in the last 25 years you will find that i just about qualify.


Welcome to the forum.

Quick Edit: Just looked at my most recent posts and they are more positive than usual. New member but regualr viewer?

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And the possibility of winning the GF with a prize of £100k which is not to be sniffed at

what happens if a SL side do not make the 2,500 average gate? are they still allowed to make bid for franchise?

Don't be silly!



There are so many ambiguous get out clauses in the rules that there is always a way around them. If Kathmandu applied for a SL franchise it would get one under "expansionist" policy and if in their first season they managed an average attendance of 3 men and a yak the RFL would hail it as a resounding success.

If promotion and relegation was still in place and we managed to win this years GF what serious chance would we have of staying in superleague beyond one season, let alone calling ourselves the best club in yorkshire or playing in the world club challenge?????

I think I would rather be the best team in the championship until we are ready to go back to play with the big boys.

agree, just hope we will get the chance one day.

Quote ="Ackropj"It appears as is stated in the Title that due to the Attendance average needing to be above 2500 the RFL would not accept a application for a super league licence even though every other box is ticked. halifaxrlfc.wordpress.com/ TOTAL JOKE !!! Something needs to happen here cause for months we have seen this happening, rules changing, sneaking little clauses in for widnes and toulouse, Who do they think they are taking a game away from the masses.'" What a laugh when I think about it. So what season do you have to have 2500 all of them, season 1, 2 or 3 of the Franchise years? So a team have a good season for one year and get good crowds on the back of that and achieve 2500, then the year after the wheels come off and they struggle so the crowds go back down, does it still count??? Oh and do they have the same TARGET for current SL clubs like the original 10,000 when it was set up??? No, yet they should expect 5,000 minimum average gates in SL surely? But the fat controller and his assistant won't dare do that would they as that would mean having to get rid of London (Harlequins)and Wales (Crusaders) wouldn't it? I have said it before its do as I say not as I do, the plonkers, wish I could meet the fat controller and tell him he is the most hated man in RL, well at our level anyway. He will not be there forever, one day he will be gone and maybe this stupid Franchise system with him, please God.

Quote ="Ackropj"It appears as is stated in the Title that due to the Attendance average needing to be above 2500 the RFL would not accept a application for a super league licence even though every other box is ticked. halifaxrlfc.wordpress.com/ TOTAL JOKE !!! Something needs to happen here cause for months we have seen this happening, rules changing, sneaking little clauses in for widnes and toulouse, Who do they think they are taking a game away from the masses.'" What a laugh when I think about it. So what season do you have to have 2500 all of them, season 1, 2 or 3 of the Franchise years? So a team have a good season for one year and get good crowds on the back of that and achieve 2500, then the year after the wheels come off and they struggle so the crowds go back down, does it still count??? Oh and do they have the same TARGET for current SL clubs like the original 10,000 when it was set up??? No, yet they should expect 5,000 minimum average gates in SL surely? But the fat controller and his assistant won't dare do that would they as that would mean having to get rid of London (Harlequins)and Wales (Crusaders) wouldn't it? I have said it before its do as I say not as I do, the plonkers, wish I could meet the fat controller and tell him he is the most hated man in RL, well at our level anyway. He will not be there forever, one day he will be gone and maybe this stupid Franchise system with him, please God.

Season average 2509.

It ain't over til the fat bird sings

They'll now say that you must have academy set-up to get in, anyway, superb crowd today, I was waiting 10 minutes in queue to get in turnstile

It was that busy people were even queueing on the pitch!

Like your fire procedures as reported in one of the rugby rags. The stand was evacuated onto the pitch, however the people in the disabled section just stayed where they were.

I can't help but feel that clubs outside the Super League are being let down and fans are not turning up to matches because they have nothing to play for. It appears that The RFL does not care about heartlands teams like Halifax. Rugby League is only going to decrease in popularity if things carry on as they are.

reading and replying to many of the points put across, i am coming to the conculsion

it all boils down to, you can put all the rules and regs u wnat in place, the fairest system universal around the world adopted in the vast majority of sports is promotion and relegation, if a team does not wnat to go up, then dont, however if a team/club wants the opportunity to be promoted let them, dont put rules made up to excluded in they way (just beause its austrailan, does not make it any good!)

Clubs like, Fax, Widnes, Whithaven, Workington, Salford, Castelford, Fev, and more are all steappd in Rugby leauge history and at one time or another have been winners in cup and league.

to now excluded them is nothing short of murder to the game of rugby league

A franchise system may work in Australia but Rugby League a bigger sport over there so that's okay. It does not work in Western Europe.

Messers Wood and Lewis need educating to this fact!

I have no problem with expansion. It hurts me to see Gateshead struggling. I love it when South Wales Scorpions and London Scolars beat traditional Heartland teams. I say that because these teams try and do things properly by using local or atleast players who come from that area rather than a heap of Aussies who have no connections. I wish Fax would use more Halifax born or atleast British players.
I see no point in shoving teams like Crusaders, Quins into SL when they are not ready for it off the field. Yes Crusaders have done better this year on and off the pitch. But first Wrexham is just a short drive for many and so more away fans will attend. And where are the Welsh players from Crusaders? Quins how the hell they are existing I will never know and despite bringing through some British talent I do not see them lasting much longer.
Promotion and Relegation should be used and we all have the same points system and Quota. One rule for all! If a team is losing money they should not be allowed to be promoted. Under the present, system Fax could have stayed in SL despite being a joke and having to sell everyone in our last season in SL. How the hell does that do anybody any good? If Bradford, Salford, Quins, Catalans etc finish bottom they should be relegated. It angers me the idiots at Red Hall seem to only think of the SL Clubs and nobodyelse.

can say was about to set up but not bothered now cant have one from next season.

South Wales Scorpions

The word expansion should be replaced in RFL documents by expulsion.
This tends to be something we can all see, yes were not ready, but what if we were, and still couldn't get through this cruddy process. Theres no point in being livid in another 3 years time, it needs sorting now.
I dont personally beleive SL is as good as people make out, and i don't think its impossible not to have a crack and make the grade (stay up)
Yesterdays evacuation at the Shay should also highlight to the RFL that our process although not as slick as it could have been, could have been a lot worse if real and at one of the older grounds, the RFL should really look this seriously, its more than image and PR, some of the SL grounds are atrocious and dangerous in comparison.