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| Quote ="Nozzy"Do the people you state actually communicate with the fans and represent them though? Genuine question as from what has been said that is what seems to be wanted/needed at the moment.'"
Communicate with the fans and represent them? How do you mean represent them? They want what we all want and that's a financially viable club with a competitive team playing in Super League, and if that's what fans want then I'd say they represent them by working towards that goal.
And I'll bet they communicate with fans as much as any board does. There are always confidentialities to be respected and there will always be things we supporters don't get to know about, but that applies to every club and every business.
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| Having thought about this I dont see it as been as bad news as people make out
As CEO Graham Clay was an employee of the club, his salary paid by the RFL (unless ive been hugely mistaken). Whilst he was a valuable asset and did some good work he can be replaced, may not seem like it but when the CEO position is advertised there may well be some good businessmen available who will be interested in the role.
As for Howard, we know what he's done in the past, he was obviously asked to come back on board and it hasn't worked out for him, credit to him for resigning and not been a hanger on not doing what was expected of him
Lets give it a few weeks and see what happens before judging or making up silly rumours.
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| Quote ="Officeboy"Communicate with the fans and represent them? How do you mean represent them? They want what we all want and that's a financially viable club with a competitive team playing in Super League, and if that's what fans want then I'd say they represent them by working towards that goal.
And I'll bet they communicate with fans as much as any board does. There are always confidentialities to be respected and there will always be things we supporters don't get to know about, but that applies to every club and every business.'"
Basically yes and yes then?
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You made a comment that Graham Clay was paid by the RFL and not the club. Please tell more? Why would the RFL pay for our CEO? or do they pay all clubs. It just seems a bizarre situation that the RFL would pay the salary of the boss of Halifax.
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You made a comment that Graham Clay was paid by the RFL and not the club. Please tell more? Why would the RFL pay for our CEO? or do they pay all clubs. It just seems a bizarre situation that the RFL would pay the salary of the boss of Halifax.
You have the words and RFL in the same sentence and therefore have answered your own question.
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| Quote ="Officeboy"A supporter's position on the board? The people on the board [iare[/i supporters!
If you're thinking they'd add the 'ordinary supporter' voice to proceedings then think back to what a waste of time the last lot who were 'elected' in the 'community club' era were. They were like the committee of a Working Mens' Club who just wanted shiny badges and free tickets - and to know how much all the players were on.'"
Now that is one of the issues that the club need to sort out - Freebies and 'hangers on'.
If I was to ask people to be honest and say if they get free tickets to games and into the Sponsors Lounge etc... (I am not on about from sponsors but somebody who pays NOTHING to the club at all but expects because they were something at the club or did something for them for free some years ago) my guess is there will be quite a few - why?
TRUE fans of a club be they fans on the terraces or in the Board room back their club financially as well as being at matches. We have some great people at the club who give many hours for free but nobody should expect everything for free forever as the club is not big enough and needs us all to 'chip in' by buying season tickets etc...
We do not have an Uncle Des or Eddie Stobbards type of sponsor, we can only compete if we ALL help.
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| I can understand the idea of bringing a supporter "from the terraces" to represent the fans in the board room. I'm not denying the current directors aren't true supporters of the Club, of course they are, but you can see why your match day flat capper has suspicions of the "business man" type director. In the past we've been lied to .... a certain person with the initials N W being the biggest culprit. He said he would take on board a nickname voted by the fans to take us into SL. But he stuck 2 fingers up at us and came up with his own damaging idea. Then he said we were in a "strong financial position" but then we went bust just several months later. Lies lies lies. And he lied to the club's creditors saying "the cheque is in the post". Yeah, let's bring those suckers down too. Not forgetting the buckets passed round the terraces and the "buy a brick" fiascos, robbing fans of their cash.
I appreciate there has to be confidentiality to a certain extent, like players' contracts for example, but there has to be total continuous transparency regarding the club's finances. Maybe a non business man representative on the board would at least make the man on the terraces a tad more comfortable.
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| This may be a positive for you, old board move away for new money type thing.
Alternatively it could see the buckets and tins appearing again.
All the best anyway.
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| I am sure it will all come clear this week and I am not too concerned.
I cant see any financial difficulties as the last balance sheet although not brilliant wasn't showing any significant financial exposure.
The club hasn't squandered any money, players in have replaced players out. The obvious negatives were lack of pre-season income and the downfall of our major sponsor but a good solid cup run and the new signing of sponsors should more than mitigate this.
I think the club is on a sound sustainable footing at the moment which is credit to BODs and of course us the Fans.
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| Quote ="Fax4Life"Now that is one of the issues that the club need to sort out - Freebies and 'hangers on'.
If I was to ask people to be honest and say if they get free tickets to games and into the Sponsors Lounge etc... (I am not on about from sponsors but somebody who pays NOTHING to the club at all but expects because they were something at the club or did something for them for free some years ago) my guess is there will be quite a few - why?
TRUE fans of a club be they fans on the terraces or in the Board room back their club financially as well as being at matches. We have some great people at the club who give many hours for free but nobody should expect everything for free forever as the club is not big enough and needs us all to 'chip in' by buying season tickets etc...
We do not have an Uncle Des or Eddie Stobbards type of sponsor, we can only compete if we ALL help.'"
Freebies and Halifax RLFC, never. More free tickets coming out of that office than I don't know what. Only problem is that they go to people who would pay in every week anyway. Funny in the diners section home and away it's usually a who's who of hangers on on free dinner tickets, which usually also includes people who work for the club for 'free'.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Freebies and Halifax RLFC, never.
More free tickets coming out of that office than I don't know what. Only problem is that they go to people who would pay in every week anyway. Funny in the diners section home and away it's usually a who's who of hangers on on free dinner tickets, which usually also includes people who work for the club for 'free'.'"
I don't think i've ever read a pro-Halifax post from you on here. Are you a fan?
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| Quote ="wereutherein1987?"I am sure it will all come clear this week and I am not too concerned.
I cant see any financial difficulties as the last balance sheet although not brilliant wasn't showing any significant financial exposure.
The club hasn't squandered any money, players in have replaced players out. The obvious negatives were lack of pre-season income and the downfall of our major sponsor but a good solid cup run and the new signing of sponsors should more than mitigate this.
I think the club is on a sound sustainable footing at the moment which is credit to BODs and of course us the Fans.'"
I hope you'r right and there is nothing lurking to bite us on the bum
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| Quote ="littlerich"I don't think i've ever read a pro-Halifax post from you on here. Are you a fan?'"
I wouldn't follow us home and away to every single game if I wasn't.
Because I have an opinion of what I feel is wrong with the club and are willing to voice it on here dosnt mean that I arnt.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"I wouldn't follow us home and away to every single game if I wasn't.
Because I have an opinion of what I feel is wrong with the club and are willing to voice it on here dosnt mean that I arnt.
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Just checking.
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| Quote ="Officeboy"I'm not being disparaging about the barmy army - I merely used them as an example of 'ordinary' supporters. I in fact mentioned them being passionate and loyal.
Neither am I knocking the good work and raising of money that the Trust does. it's just that ultimately (in my humble opinion) the trust is just the same as the supporters clubs that nearly all clubs have and raising money for the club is what they do. The trust was formed to buy a seat on the board if I remember rightly, to represent 'ordinary fans' I've always been surprised that directors didn't take offence at the insinuation that there has to be somebody amongst them 'policing' them, reporting back and protecting 'the club' from them. Maybe they did.
All I am saying is that Michael Steele, Ian Croad, and Steven Bonfield are supporters, and I question the principle being put forward that 'the fans' need any further representation when it's fans that are on the board as it is!'"
I t sounds disparaging to me to make comments about the "Supporters rep" on the" Commnity board" saying he was more like a committee member of a working mens club who was only bothered about badges and free tickets.Well not being "au fait" with how committee members of working mens clubs behave I will of course take your word for it.But I do believe our rep` was a useful member of the board at the timeNeither did I think the directors took offence at "ordinary fans" "policing them" as you call it.If I remember correctly theTrust was invited on the board when the board became a community club and the Trust did not have to buy a place.Stephen Pearsons vision of the "community club" meant we were invited to take a place on the board and if as you say people without the money to bring to the table should be specialy picked also for business accumin etc. Well noone is disagreeing with that either but one might wonder why you put up for election to the board against Paul Dixon.
I was also unaware that Steven Bonifield was a director , thought he withdrew some considerable time ago but then there again I bow to your superior knowledge.
As I said earlier the fan who suggested to start a lottery of some kind was merely trying to be helpful towards the club as I think he probably thought they could do with the help and instead of being shouted down by you it may be better if someone from the club grabbed him and his initiative and ideas and worked with him and others to nurture the idea into something that may be more suitable for our club instead of someone like you belittleing the idea . Especially as he and others are more than willing to put an extra £1 in here and there which you must admit is very refreshing .
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| Quote ="exdysonroadie"Brew
You made a comment that Graham Clay was paid by the RFL and not the club. Please tell more? Why would the RFL pay for our CEO? or do they pay all clubs. It just seems a bizarre situation that the RFL would pay the salary of the boss of Halifax.'"
IIRC the RFL give Championship Clubs so much money per year, which is available as long as they employ a CEO and a Marketing Manager. So its basicly to cover the salary
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| Quote ="johnny freeman fan club"I t sounds disparaging to me to make comments about the "Supporters rep" on the" Commnity board" saying he was more like a committee member of a working mens club who was only bothered about badges and free tickets.Well not being "au fait" with how committee members of working mens clubs behave I will of course take your word for it.But I do believe our rep` was a useful member of the board at the timeNeither did I think the directors took offence at "ordinary fans" "policing them" as you call it.If I remember correctly theTrust was invited on the board when the board became a community club and the Trust did not have to buy a place.Stephen Pearsons vision of the "community club" meant we were invited to take a place on the board and if as you say people without the money to bring to the table should be specialy picked also for business accumin etc. Well noone is disagreeing with that either but one might wonder why you put up for election to the board against Paul Dixon.
I was also unaware that Steven Bonifield was a director , thought he withdrew some considerable time ago but then there again I bow to your superior knowledge.
As I said earlier the fan who suggested to start a lottery of some kind was merely trying to be helpful towards the club as I think he probably thought they could do with the help and instead of being shouted down by you it may be better if someone from the club grabbed him and his initiative and ideas and worked with him and others to nurture the idea into something that may be more suitable for our club instead of someone like you belittleing the idea . Especially as he and others are more than willing to put an extra £1 in here and there which you must admit is very refreshing .'"
My my, you're bitter aren't you?
After sitting for an hour thinking of the best way to reply to this nonsense I think the best way is simply to be happy that you bow to my superior knowledge.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Freebies and Halifax RLFC, never.
More free tickets coming out of that office than I don't know what. Only problem is that they go to people who would pay in every week anyway. Funny in the diners section home and away it's usually a who's who of hangers on on free dinner tickets, which usually also includes people who work for the club for 'free'.'"
I know this to be categorically untrue - everybody has to pay their way on hospitality at the Club
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| Quote ="harry1"I know this to be categorically untrue - everybody has to pay their way on hospitality at the Club'"
I concur - I work for the club and paid for my rare day off for hospitality.
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| Quote ="Officeboy"My my, you're bitter aren't you?
After sitting for an hour thinking of the best way to reply to this nonsense I think the best way is simply to be happy that you bow to my superior knowledge.'"
This has to be the funniest thing I've read in ages. The poster spends an hour trying to come up with a reply, is unable to, and still believes he has "superior knowledge". This is a forum, not a knowledge contest. All reasonable opinions are welcome irrespective of the level of intellect.
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| Quote ="Officeboy"My my, you're bitter aren't you?
After sitting for an hour thinking of the best way to reply to this nonsense I think the best way is simply to be happy that you bow to my superior knowledge.'"
Bitter?? No I am most definatly not . I am enjoying my rugby and my involvment with the club I have supported since 1953 ,I am happy with the people who run the club and unlike you have no aspirations to be on the board. Nor would I like you, knock anyone who has done a dificult unpaid job in their own time either.
I am gratful our club is still going due to various people in our past and present history investing time and money in what seems at times to be an uphill struggle for most of the time but The Supporters Trust would be very grateful to any fans who may have any ideas and are willing to put in the time to help pursue them if justhebasicfax wishes to pm me we are more than willing to listen. A germ of an idea could become a bit of a moneyspinner albeit under a differant format.I appeal to all true fans of the club to try to go the extra mile just at the moment we are after all in this together .
On another note may I also like to add that the Supporters Trust Committee volunteer workers for the club (one of whom works at the club 7 days a week )all pay for a season ticket.As such even though they have matchday jobs(ie) working in the shop ,selling programmes or just helping out unpaid the still pay in to watch the match.
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| Having seen the statement on the other thread from Mr Fax taken from the club page, I was just wondering when the full announcement is expected.
I fully trust the BODs yet if you are reading this please understand that we have had many an uncertain time over the years and having two important guys leave at the same time will set the alarm bells ringing.
I dont get into conspiracy theories and gossip, I am, like many fans, a little uneasy at the moment.
I have had my PC on pretty much since Saturday AM and when I saw the Mr Fax post at 8.30 this morning I was hoping for some light spreading on the situation.
Any news on the full press release yet anyone?
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| Perhaps Columbo can investigate the goings on?
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"Perhaps Columbo can investigate the goings on?'"
Columbo was a homicide detective. Who's been murdered?
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