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| Quote ="Fax4Life"So we have lost our mantle of the biggest lottery outside SL now Richard?
I am surprised but will accept what you say, well done to them, how many members do we have then?'"
Some confusion here.
You never had that mantle. As I stated, the Barrow lottery was the biggest lottery in the country until the introduction of the National Lottery and, I believe, has remained second only to that.
I really don't wish to argue over the matter of finances. Both our clubs appear to be in a healthy situation, both provide entertaining and highly competitive rugby.
So lets stop arguing and gang up on them Widnes b*****ds! hahaha
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| perhaps they have hyper-inflated their intangible assets too, or used SPV's (special purpose vehicles) to mitigate the true extent of financial concerns within
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| Quote ="championships_da_best"perhaps they have hyper-inflated their intangible assets too, or used SPV's (special purpose vehicles) to mitigate the true extent of financial concerns within'"
Has somebody highjacked your account?
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| Quote ="Yob"Has somebody highjacked your account?
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Google is his friend
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| ask me anything about accountancy my friend, i work for the biggest ****s of them all!
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| Quote ="championships_da_best"ask me anything about accountancy my friend, i work for the biggest ****s of them all!'"
Question 1:
You pay a creditor - what's the double entry ?
DR ?
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| Quote ="littlerich"Question 1:
You pay a creditor - what's the double entry ?
DR ?
CR ?'"
Dr. Creditor
Cr. Bank
Q. Whats the most efficient capital structre according to Miller & Modigliani?
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| Quote ="wereutherein1987?"Q. Whats the most efficient capital structre according to Miller & Modigliani?'"
Without looking at Google - i haven't a clue. But styler thinks it's this:
=blueThe basic theorem states that, under a certain market price process (the classical random walk), in the absence of taxes, bankruptcy costs, and asymmetric information, and in an efficient market, the value of a firm is unaffected by how that firm is financed. It does not matter if the firm's capital is raised by issuing stock or selling debt. It does not matter what the firm's dividend policy is. Therefore, the Modigliani-Miller theorem is also often called the capital structure irrelevance principle.
We have massive thread drift and it's my fault. I apologise.
Did you know that Barrow-in-Furness is a large industrial town which grew from a tiny 19th Century hamlet to the biggest iron and steel centre in the world, and a major ship-building force, in just 40 years.
If they can do that to the steel industry what are they going to do to Rugby League? It's frightening. Des is the new Isambard Kingdom Brunel.
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| yes littlerich but you forgot that their modified model incorporates hypothetical 'bankruptsy costs' meaning that a highly levered firms capital structure actually can and does affect a firms stated value, however unreliable this estimation may be. I learnt this riveting stuff in my corporate finance module.
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| Quote ="championships_da_best"yes littlerich but you forgot that their modified model incorporates hypothetical 'bankruptsy costs' meaning that a highly levered firms capital structure actually can and does affect a firms stated value, however unreliable this estimation may be. I learnt this riveting stuff in my corporate finance module.'"
I'd ask for your money back - they didn't teach you the correct spelling.
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| its an english-american thing!
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| Quote ="littlerich"Without looking at Google - i haven't a clue. But styler thinks it's this:
=blueThe basic theorem states that, under a certain market price process (the classical random walk), in the absence of taxes, bankruptcy costs, and asymmetric information, and in an efficient market, the value of a firm is unaffected by how that firm is financed. It does not matter if the firm's capital is raised by issuing stock or selling debt. It does not matter what the firm's dividend policy is. Therefore, the Modigliani-Miller theorem is also often called the capital structure irrelevance principle.
We have massive thread drift and it's my fault. I apologise.
Did you know that Barrow-in-Furness is a large industrial town which grew from a tiny 19th Century hamlet to the biggest iron and steel centre in the world, and a major ship-building force, in just 40 years.
If they can do that to the steel industry what are they going to do to Rugby League? It's frightening. Des is the new Isambard Kingdom Brunel.'"
That yorshire humour...
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| Quote ="Zimbo"That yorshire humour...'"
No, mate. Our shire is Yorkshire. Biggest and best; God's own county, don't you know?
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| Quote ="SRC"Estimated turnover for 2009 (+/- 10% accurate I would think) .....
2,300 average fans x 12 homes games (10 league + 2 NR Cup) @ £8 = £220,800
5 Split gates @ 3,000 fans ave (including Wigan sellout) @ £8 = £60,000
Corporate boxes (7 per match @ £400 each) = £2,800 per match x 15 matches = £42,000
Club sponsorship - not sure but £30,000+ I would think
Prize money - certainly over £120,000
Bar/refreshment/merchandise - certainly over £50,000
Goldrush Lottery - £6,000 per week = £312,000
TOTAL - £834,800
With season tickets to go on sale soon I think they will add £50,000 - £100,000 to this years turnover.
We won't know the real figures until this time next year, but I don't think I'm too far out. The final figure pretty much ties up with what was announced at the fundraising meeting.'"
you can't ad season ticket sales to this years turnover,, season ticket sales will be treated as deffered income and form the starting point to the 2010 accounts
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| Quote ="Tortured Soul"No, mate. Our shire is Yorkshire. Biggest and best; God's own county, don't you know?
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Thonely one with its own airline
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| Quote ="vikinggriff1979"you can't ad season ticket sales to this years turnover,, season ticket sales will be treated as deffered income and form the starting point to the 2010 accounts'"
Is that the same as deferred income ?
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| Quote ="bentleyman"Is that the same as deferred income ?'"
Pedantry with humour and wit = good
Pedantry for pedantry's sake = bad
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| Quote ="Starbug"Thonely one with its own airline
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Taking off from Leeds, landing in Leeds. Aye lad!
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| Accountants...totally boring b-star-s.
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| Why is everybody interested in Barrow they will win nothing next season with Steve Mc in charge he failed again at the final hurdle yesterday with favourites Scotland.
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| Next year will be too close to call, espicially if the The Leythers are invited to the jig. Widnes will be back with avengence, Barrow will be playing for bonuses (again), we've strengthened well and Leigh will have the Millward effect and a point to prove, no doubt. Not forgetting an unbeaten Dewsbury. Plus everyone else who can turn over anyone on the day!
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| Quote ="chinaman"Accountants...totally boring b-star-s.
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couldn't agree more.
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| My assistant accountant.
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